Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Updater Job Many times you'll read a story published by a person who has studied or even experienced a profession that many have never put their shoes in. If you read the New York Times you sometimes will read a story published by a Plumber about plumbing and all the wondering little cracks there are in his job. Maybe you have read something in your local paper that is a piece written by a local fisherman telling you the daily hardships of life at sea and what profit he nets from his trips. Well I am here to write a piece on the life of an Updater in the Victory Hockey League. I'll start off by saying this piece will generate some discussion just based on the various extremes it goes and who it addresses. As an example I will let you know that some members will be praised for their updating abilities and some will probably be told to go lie down behind the barn and wait for Uncle Wilson to load his rifle. This isn't meant to insult of offend any one individual but to strictly shed some light on the good and bad things in regards to updating. It's a job that isn't really thankless per say, but one that can be overlooked from time to time. Whether it's off-season updates that drag on for an hour, or weekly updates of a 2 TPE welfare pensioner; this is the piece for everyone. Updating is a job that doesn't see awards much like the Grader awards that come out each year for prized graders. Us Updaters aren't exactly too thrilled about those awards considering the changes to grading have made it a less taxing job than the Updating job, however we go along with it. In fact more members seem to complain about the updaters than they do about the graders (and that's even with Brovy's tardiness on updates). The thing is, a lot of the members don't actually believe their Updater when he says that they messed up or that their player page is correct. It's a puzzling thing to read because often times they either haven't done their math or they simply have no clue about depreciation. However, as someone that has been here since day one of this league; I can tell you that I rarely mess up on an update because the scale and numbers are somewhat imprinted in my mind. The beauty of Updating is that it can go by quick if members simply do it properly, or it can be a drawn out process that really irritates both parties. I'd like to point out @Frank for a second, because if it was up to me I think every member would have to copy his format and great abilities to update. That isn't just a one time thing, because I've updated @Frank's past players too and he always seems to have it down. The goal is to make things as quick and informative as possible without dragging your updates out over 50 lines in each post. The sad part about this is that if a member makes it a real challenge for the Updater, the Updater gets scolded if he just tells the member to bugger off and correct it. To me that has to change because if the Updater who is updating you asks you to simple fit a format or correct something, you do it. Why? Because this is the guy who is in charge of editing your player thread for the file. You choose to be an ass? Well he can choose to ignore your update. It's not really a debate. That leads us to the other side of things and that is shitty updaters. @flyersfan1493 is notorious for simply ignoring the wishes of an Updater, which sucks for him because he looks like an idiot in the end of it. Making your updates go so long when you only have 2 things you are updating is irritating. It's irritating to scroll so damn much just to add 2 TPE to Strength and 1 TPE to checking. Keep in mind these Updaters are not just updating your page, they are updating several dozen pages at a time. The goal is to make it quick and thorough to avoid confusion. Couple things to remember: Label your Links Use the Chain Link button above the post to link Links After each link, press SHIFT ENTER to get to the next line Always list your TPE Check your player page on occasion to ensure you are adding to the right total next update Never list things like this (96 4@4 = 97), instead list them like this (96 + 4 = 97). (@ and an extra number is confusing for an Updaters eyes) Copy @Frank Like I mentioned before, this piece isn't to flame anyone as I know everyone is just putting their updates in, but this is a job that doesn't get a special bonus like the graders and simply collects the 2 TPE at the end of the week for making sure YOUR player is correct for the file. Also just to shed some light on that file, we as Updaters do not touch it. We simple make sure your player thread is ready for the File Updater to come along. On behalf of @Tim, @Dewie & @CowboyinAmerica Thank You, Joey F. Kendrick Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 My update page everyone. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, flyersfan1493 said: My update page everyone. Yes that is it. I had stated in the Bernie thread, you just had a hard time with people who try to help you haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,889 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, Kendrick said: Never list things like this (96 4@4 = 97), instead list them like this (96 + 4 = 97). (@ and an extra number is confusing for an Updaters eyes) I actually disagree with this one, because otherwise when people update across multiple scales (i.e. 78 + 10 = 82) it's nicer for me to see it spelled out and make sure it's all done right. Nice piece though! Molholt 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, CowboyinAmerica said: I actually disagree with this one, because otherwise when people update across multiple scales (i.e. 78 + 10 = 82) it's nicer for me to see it spelled out and make sure it's all done right. Nice piece though! I tend to break mine up when they change where they are on the scale, like so: Face Offs: 77 + 6 = 80 Face Offs: 80 + 8 = 82 2/3 JardyB10 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, CowboyinAmerica said: I actually disagree with this one, because otherwise when people update across multiple scales (i.e. 78 + 10 = 82) it's nicer for me to see it spelled out and make sure it's all done right. Nice piece though! That one is more preference of the person updating, I'll admit. I have somewhat got the whole update scales thing down to the point where they add TPE across scales I just kick in that thought. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 Just now, Molholt said: I tend to break mine up when they change where they are on the scale, like so: Face Offs: 77 + 6 = 80 Face Offs: 80 + 8 = 82 2/3 Yeah similar and actually quite easy. I know you did that last Update which was actually a good idea. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 Indeed, I agree with Kendrick and Molholt. I always found the +7 @4 thing annoying when I updated for the VFL aeons ago because I'M A FUCKING UPDATER I KNOW WHAT THE SCALE IS STOP ADDING RANDOM ADDITIONAL CHARACTERS TO YOUR UPDATE But it can indeed get tricky when you "jump scales," which is why I personally use Molholt's method. Rarely, mind you, because most the time if I've reached a new scale I jump to a different attribute anyway. Finally, Frank obviously ripped off my method of updating. In fact I actually wouldn't be surprised if there was literally proof of this on the original site. But he wins because he doesn't keep using the wrong original values on his attributes. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted March 14, 2016 Admin Share Posted March 14, 2016 Definitely agree with using the chain to link things. This was a tiny update I just did and was painful as fuck. http://www.vhlforum.com/index.php?/topic/26018-rw-kendrick-cole/&do=findComment&comment=316523 Kendrick 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 frank sucks tho Frank and JardyB10 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,208 Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Dewie said: frank sucks tho You know it's bad when the guy you made your successor hates your guts. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Frank said: You know it's bad when the guy you made your successor hates your guts. Bitch your my successor. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jala 922 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 I'm confused as to what this is lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jala 922 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 3 hours ago, Victor said: Definitely agree with using the chain to link things. This was a tiny update I just did and was painful as fuck. http://www.vhlforum.com/index.php?/topic/26018-rw-kendrick-cole/&do=findComment&comment=316523 I think it was that soccer league that died, or something. I saw that format somewhere and it was mandated by the league to do it like that. So bad lol. I dunno, these aren't half as bad as Yousuf's though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted March 15, 2016 Senior Admin Share Posted March 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, jaladolar said: I'm confused as to what this is lol basically one of those tl;dr kind of things Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jala 922 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 4 hours ago, CowboyinAmerica said: I actually disagree with this one, because otherwise when people update across multiple scales (i.e. 78 + 10 = 82) it's nicer for me to see it spelled out and make sure it's all done right. Nice piece though! Yeah, there's been times where I've had to write out the updates to make sure they correspond with the update scale when I've updated. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jala 922 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Just now, Draper said: basically one of those tl;dr kind of things tl;dr Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted March 15, 2016 Senior Admin Share Posted March 15, 2016 1 minute ago, jaladolar said: tl;dr cheeky twat Jala 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 @Kendrick you've never really complained about my updates so I'm going to assume that I'm doing it fine. Also good article idea. How in the hell are we still giving grader prizes now that it is such a reduced role? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 7 hours ago, Victor said: Definitely agree with using the chain to link things. This was a tiny update I just did and was painful as fuck. http://www.vhlforum.com/index.php?/topic/26018-rw-kendrick-cole/&do=findComment&comment=316523 Yours actually is pretty good. In fact the process of you listing all the links first is exactly how I want @flyersfan1493 to do it. Instead of putting each link and where it is going, it's easier if you add it all up at the end instead of doing it step by step. LINK +3 LINK +3 LINK +5 +11 to ________ is a lot better than what he is currently doing. Also, I'm not sure if they did Grader awards this year but it always strikes me is odd that we did them in the first place. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted March 15, 2016 Admin Share Posted March 15, 2016 Grader awards were a thing because back in the day it was a pretty shit job. 10 MSs for 1 TPE, come on! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-320961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evrydayimbyfuglien 600 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Review: Good insight into reviewing. I hope I'm not one with the hard to manage update threads. That shift+return doesn't seem to work for me though, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. It's nice to read articles about things that aren't necessarily centered around a made up player and actually the innerworkings of the league. Thanks for the look at updating. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-321644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 3 hours ago, evrydayimbyfuglien said: Review: Good insight into reviewing. I hope I'm not one with the hard to manage update threads. That shift+return doesn't seem to work for me though, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. It's nice to read articles about things that aren't necessarily centered around a made up player and actually the innerworkings of the league. Thanks for the look at updating. Where are you pressing it? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-321696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
evrydayimbyfuglien 600 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kendrick said: Where are you pressing it? I copy and paste it, before I can even do anything, it pops it into that window. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-321698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, evrydayimbyfuglien said: I copy and paste it, before I can even do anything, it pops it into that window. You need to use the "LINK" looking chain icon above the post. It's between the Underline and the Quotation marks. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/28820-claimedupdater-job-reviewed-reviewed/#findComment-321700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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