BOOM 8,758 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 It can be a murder-suicide. You and devise. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Guys, I think we may have broke Eddie Lack. He looked pretty traumatized by that line brawl. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Alex Burrows does look like a Canadian Women's team member with that visor haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seth 92 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The Islanders won, you know what that means! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MBmVqEU7eQ Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 #FREETORTS Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 15 days, 6 games, salary forfeited, no team contact allowed. Hartley gets off with a $25k fine. What a joke. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 got it for trying to get into the flames LR Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Thank you Captain Obvious. I expected a suspension but this is stupid. Edited January 21, 2014 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Stupid move so stupid suspension thought it be more tbh Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,360 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 That awkward moment when you have a hard decision whether to watch your favorite team play the Phoenix Coyotes or Master Chef Canada... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Thank you Captain Obvious. I expected a suspension but this is stupid. Are you kidding? He tried to get into the Flames LR. The fact that Hartley got fined as well is fair. Punishment to both but what Torts did was ABSOLUTELY unacceptable. Edited January 21, 2014 by Devise22 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Are you kidding? He tried to get into the Flames LR. The fact that Hartley got fined as well is fair. Punishment to both but what Torts did was ABSOLUTELY unacceptable. 6 games and no team contact, but Hartley gets off with a $25k fine for instigating the whole fucking thing. K. Edited January 21, 2014 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,758 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yeah, fucking Hartley. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 6 games and no team contact, but Hartley gets off with a $25k fine for instigating the whole fucking thing. K. Sandro you're going a little over board. He deserves that. However, the league has sort of set a bad example. A guy gets 6 games and a suspension (justified) but players get away with a whole lot more on the ice? Now I see why careers have become shorter. Safety first. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,758 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I agree with Elliot Friedman http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/01/nhl-has-no-choice-but-to-suspend-john-tortorella.html Whoever he is. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 6 games and no team contact, but Hartley gets off with a $25k fine for instigating the whole fucking thing. K. So if you murdered my friend and I go murder you, only you should get charged with murder? What a bunch of nonsense. Hartley instigated an on the ice interaction. Torts yelled at him on the bench. Fine, both get 25K for that. But Torts went across another line and deserved his punishment for that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherifflobo 137 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think it was more of a joke that the players didn't get anything. You're trying to eliminate bullshit like this from happening, suspend the players as well. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) So if you murdered my friend and I go murder you, only you should get charged with murder? What a bunch of nonsense. Hartley instigated an on the ice interaction. Torts yelled at him on the bench. Fine, both get 25K for that. But Torts went across another line and deserved his punishment for that. Hey Devise, please take a moment to fucking read what I've said. I said Torts should be suspended. But Hartley got off damn easy considering the whole thing is avoided if he doesn't put his goons on to start the game with the message of "go out there and start something". I think it was more of a joke that the players didn't get anything. You're trying to eliminate bullshit like this from happening, suspend the players as well. Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Torts gets more than half the guys suspended for headshots, and no one on the ice gets anything. It's a joke, the NHL is a joke, and it will be until they actually do something about it. Edited January 21, 2014 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle 667 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hartley apparently isn't allowed to play his 4th line and for doing so should be suspended. Lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle 667 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Doesn't work that way Sandro. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Hartley apparently isn't allowed to play his 4th line and for doing so should be suspended. Lol Did I say suspended? I think a larger fine for Hartley and 10 days / 4 games for Torts would've been fine. The entire sequence events was started by Hartley trying to "send a message" and Torts ended up crossing a line. Both are at fault. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32371 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) The suspension for torts is fine tbh, I thought he would have gotten more actually. I think Heartly should have got around 50K, but that's just my view. Heartly shouldn't be suspended for putting out his fourth line, no way. But he should get a heafty fine for putting out goons regardless of position, which in turn is instigating and provoking the other team. 15 days and 6 games is fair I don't know why Sandro is going wild about it. BUTTTTTTTTT I find it comical that in this day in age walking into a tunnel and yelling gives out a larger suspension then most of the dangerous plays that get reviewed now-a-days. Yelling doesn't cause brain damage, stupid hits and unneeded fights do. Edited January 21, 2014 by 8Ovechkin8 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I find it comical that in this day in age walking into a tunnel and yelling gives out a larger suspension then most of the dangerous plays that get reviewed now-a-days. Yelling doesn't cause brain damage, stupid hits and unneeded fights do. I'm mad because of two things you mentioned: I think Hartley should've been fined more (at least 50k) and that the suspension is worse than many headshots. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm mad because of two things you mentioned: I think Hartley should've been fined more (at least 50k) and that the suspension is worse than many headshots. What exactly is the amount going to change things? You realize the team usually pays these fines right? Torts is different, he gets docked pay, the team can't pay that. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,658 Posted January 21, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 21, 2014 The penalties are more so because Torts tried to enter the Flames LR. It just sets a bad precedent if he is allowed to do so. Like what happens if instead of being held back by McGrattan, he decks him in the face? Now we have assault and law suits occurring. The Elliot Friedman article is spot on the money. He is the commentator for CBC HNIC for whomever asked who he was. Remove the LR invasion and they get fined the same amounts likely. As Paul Cruze was on radio saying "Hartley laid a trap, and Torts walked right into it. Gotta punish him for stupidity." Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/30/#findComment-32493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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