Top NHL Players (Point Predictions)

[bagelbitesisbae 71]

34 minutes ago, BarzalGoat said:

 

No no, Barzal 90 points, Snake will score 9. Simple rounding error.

I don't think Tavares is a snake, more like he didn't want the Islanders to get stuff for him. He played it really, really smart. Barzal is GREAT player though!

[BarzalGoat 728]

1 hour ago, bagelbitesisbae said:

I don't think Tavares is a snake, more like he didn't want the Islanders to get stuff for him. He played it really, really smart. Barzal is GREAT player though!

I don't think Tavares is a snake, I just think that he turned his back on the organization which raised him and cared for him even when he was a rookie, and accepted when he injured himself in the Olympics, AND didn't want them to get assets in return for him. 

[bagelbitesisbae 71]

1 minute ago, BarzalGoat said:

I don't think Tavares is a snake, I just think that he turned his back on the organization which raised him and cared for him even when he was a rookie, and accepted when he injured himself in the Olympics, AND didn't want them to get assets in return for him. 

Yeah, no, I agree with you, man. The NHL is a business at the end of the day though. 

[DollarAndADream 3,357]

9 hours ago, Banackock said:

McDavid = 95. Tired of carrying the team.

Mackinnon = 70 to 80. 

Matthews hits 70-80 imo.

Tavares somewhere in the 80's.

Ovechkin I'd say 75 is good. 

 

For my Oilers:

Lucic = 50 pts

Kassian = 39 on the dot

Nuge = 65 - Draisitl sits around there maybe too. maybe 70+

 

 

I'll give you $20 if Lucic gets 50 points.

[Banackock 8,106]

Just now, DollarAndADream said:

I'll give you $20 if Lucic gets 50 points.

Holding you to it. 

[DollarAndADream 3,357]

8 minutes ago, Banackock said:

Holding you to it. 

I'm down. It'll make the rebuilding Canucks season a little more interesting. Lmao

 

 

[Advantage 2,897]

15 hours ago, DollarAndADream said:

I'll give you $20 if Lucic gets 50 points.

Man id give him $20 if he even hit 40.

[Advantage 2,897]

My predictions for players listed:

 

McDavid, Stamkos, Kucherov, MacKinnon, Crosby, Giroux, Marchand, Ovechkin, Tavares, and Matthews

 

McDavid - 103

Stamkos - 81

Kucherov - 86

Mackinnon - 77

Crosby - 91

Giroux - 75

Marchand - 78

Ovechkin - 83

Tavares - 81

Matthews - 72

[Devise 4,475]

12 minutes ago, ADV said:

My predictions for players listed:

 

McDavid, Stamkos, Kucherov, MacKinnon, Crosby, Giroux, Marchand, Ovechkin, Tavares, and Matthews

 

McDavid - 103

Stamkos - 81

Kucherov - 86

Mackinnon - 77

Crosby - 91

Giroux - 75

Marchand - 78

Ovechkin - 83

Tavares - 81

Matthews - 72

 

Kuznetsov - 85 (Yes, he'll get more points that either Tavares or Matthews, suck it Toronto.  ) 

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

I think you guys are way low on Giroux. In the past 5 years, he's 5th in points behind Crosby, Kane, Jamie Benn, and Ovechkin. He played hurt 3 seasons ago, wasn't 100% 2 seasons ago. Last season was his first healthy season in a while, and he was able to shift to the wing with less defensive responsibility, especially since he's paired with Couturier. Unless Couturier's injury is long term, I doubt we see Giroux back at C. He's a top PP player on a good PP and should continue to get ES points as well with Couturier and whoever the 3rd winger on the line is (hopefully Konecny).

 

And 65 goals for Matthews? Please. Top goalscorer (Ovechkin) had 49 last year, with Laine and Karlsson at 43. You think Matthews is going to eclipse even 50?

[Quik 4,113]

On 9/3/2018 at 8:19 PM, Tyler said:

 

Hmmm I think 70-75 is a lot more likely. Offense will be spread out this season. 

 

We'll see, he put up over a PPG last season, and while the offense will be spread out, that's how it's been his first 2 seasons as well. Really, the only difference is that instead of a 3rd line with Bozak and JVR, which was a defensive liability and inconsistent at 5v5, we've replaced them with JT and Andreas Johnsson. Johnsson's a rookie, but 15 goals and 35-40 points isn't out of the question, if not more (if he gets the icetime), which covers Bozak's production. JT > JVR by a mile.

 

Teams won't be able to key in on Matthews as much as they have, so I expect the open ice will mean a big season for him.

 

On 9/4/2018 at 3:39 PM, Fire Hakstol said:

And 65 goals for Matthews? You think Matthews is going to eclipse even 50?

 

Reading comprehension He won't come close to 65, but 50 is definitely doable. All I was saying is that his goal total will be closer to 65 than his point total will be, unless he doesn't play a full season. Not exactly absurd to think he picks up 90+ points.

[Tyler 885]

Leafs fans are awfully cocky for people who's team hasn't won a playoff series since 2004 if all I'm gonna say in response to @Quik

Edited September 6, 2018 by Tyler

[Quik 4,113]

6 minutes ago, Tyler said:

Leafs fans are awfully cocky for people who's team hasn't won a playoff series since 2004 if all I'm gonna say in response to @Quik

haha, don't know where I'm being cocky. I didn't say he's going to score more points than McDavid, or the Leafs are winning the Cup this year...All I was saying is 65 is hella low prediction for a guy that got 69 as a rookie, and over a PPG last season.

 

Edited September 6, 2018 by Quik

[Devise 4,475]

33 minutes ago, Quik said:

haha, don't know where I'm being cocky. I didn't say he's going to score more points than McDavid, or the Leafs are winning the Cup this year...All I was saying is 65 is hella low prediction for a guy that got 69 as a rookie, and over a PPG last season.

 

 

Cocky to assume your star is the real deal after what, 2 seasons of history? I think that is part and parcel my problem with all the "now that we have Tavares" lines. Tavares himself hasn't really been much of an overachiever either. All I've heard is how the one two punch of the Leafs is so "the best ever" since the trade. Meanwhile I look even as far as Pitt and go "what?"

 

Like I get it. young players like Matthews absolutely have the potential to be 90-100 point players. But Matthews has even hit 70 in his two seasons. Jumping the gun a bit? Having some optimism about him pushing forward I think is different than basically putting him above even centers like Nick Backstrom who have not only hit higher point totals before but are career point per game players nearly. 

 

It just all ties in this NHL media fascination with the youth movement that I have been told was taking over seasons ago and we are still waiting. 

[Quik 4,113]

3 minutes ago, Devise said:

 

Cocky to assume your star is the real deal after what, 2 seasons of history? I think that is part and parcel my problem with all the "now that we have Tavares" lines. Tavares himself hasn't really been much of an overachiever either. All I've heard is how the one two punch of the Leafs is so "the best ever" since the trade. Meanwhile I look even as far as Pitt and go "what?"

  

Like I get it. young players like Matthews absolutely have the potential to be 90-100 point players. But Matthews has even hit 70 in his two seasons. Jumping the gun a bit? Having some optimism about him pushing forward I think is different than basically putting him above even centers like Nick Backstrom who have not only hit higher point totals before but are career point per game players nearly. 

  

It just all ties in this NHL media fascination with the youth movement that I have been told was taking over seasons ago and we are still waiting. 

I don't think it's all that cocky to believe in your star player, whether they've played 2 seasons or 10...Hell, I'm not even saying he's going to hit 90 points, just that 65 is low seeing how he got more than that in his rookie year, and had 63 while missing 20 games. His history in the NHL is that he's a top tier player, who's scored at over a 40 goal, 70 point pace thus far in his career, is only improving, and should now have less QoC on the ice. Me saying that 65 is a low prediction for him is not being cocky. Saying he has the potential to hit 90, and I think that's more likely than 65? Optimistic? Sure, why wouldn't I be? Cocky? Still no.

 

As for JT, I mean, sure, he's never had a monster year, but he doesn't really need to. He's much better than who he is replacing, which makes it an improvement for the Leafs. I also don't know who you're talking to, but nobody is claiming Matthews and Tavares are the top duo in the league, never mind ever. What a lot have claimed, and it's not exactly outlandish, is that, with Kadri, they're probably the top trio of centers in the league.

 

Also, yeah, having centers with track record is great, but banking on a guy like Backstrom repeating what he did 2 seasons ago, when he's now 30, isn't a safe bet either. He's only hit 80 points once in the past 8 full NHL seasons (not counting the lockout shortened 2013), so yeah, if I had to bet on which one of Matthews or Backstrom is going to score more points this season, I'll take the one who is yet to enter his prime. Not saying Backstrom is bad, but he is at the point in his career where guys start to slow down; if we're being realistic, he's more likely to have less points than last season/score at a lower pace than Matthews is.