Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Nice run @Tyler and thank you for convincing me not to retire Jeff very early in his career. Tyler 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-567924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 By the by, as this GM transition was done via an external hire, @ShawnGlade has 3 options available to him regarding the GM player situation. External Hire: 3 Options The new GM may trade for their existing player, who would then become the GM Player Thus allowing previous GM Player to become a regular Player, who is free to finish their career, staying on the team, or leaving through trade/Free Agency. New GM may create a 2nd player that is a regular player, and who would go through the draft (as long as they follow the 3-season rule). New GM may create a GM Player of their own, leaving their original player with the team they belong to. The previous GM Player is sent to FA as soon as the new GM Player’s draft year arises (i.e. If the new GM Player is a S67 Draftee, the previous GM Player would become a Free Agent following the S66 Season). Previous GM Player may not return to original team (or any team they are traded to during that season) via FA, or contract extension, within 2 seasons but can be traded for. For Example: If @Quik steps down and the new GM of Helsinki wishes to create a S67 Draftee, Kronos Bailey would automatically become a Free Agent following the S66 Season. Should Helsinki trade Bailey to another team, he would be ineligible to sign with either Helsinki or the 2nd team, until after the S68 Season. If for some reason the 2nd team also trades Bailey, he would be ineligible from signing with the 3rd team as well. New GM does not create a 2nd Player, and previous GM Player continues as the team's GM Player, following all rules applied to GM Players. Since your already tagged in this, Quik, just so I'm clear myself does that 3rd option mean Glade could effectively leave The Charm as the GM player until The Charm would naturally retire? I'm assuming at which point Glade himself, as the GM, would be forced to create a player or trade for his own player to effectively get a GM player on the roster? Or did we remove the rule that states a team must have a GM player associated with it? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-567939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 14 hours ago, Devise said: By the by, as this GM transition was done via an external hire, @ShawnGlade has 3 options available to him regarding the GM player situation. External Hire: 3 Options The new GM may trade for their existing player, who would then become the GM Player Thus allowing previous GM Player to become a regular Player, who is free to finish their career, staying on the team, or leaving through trade/Free Agency. New GM may create a 2nd player that is a regular player, and who would go through the draft (as long as they follow the 3-season rule). New GM may create a GM Player of their own, leaving their original player with the team they belong to. The previous GM Player is sent to FA as soon as the new GM Player’s draft year arises (i.e. If the new GM Player is a S67 Draftee, the previous GM Player would become a Free Agent following the S66 Season). Previous GM Player may not return to original team (or any team they are traded to during that season) via FA, or contract extension, within 2 seasons but can be traded for. For Example: If @Quik steps down and the new GM of Helsinki wishes to create a S67 Draftee, Kronos Bailey would automatically become a Free Agent following the S66 Season. Should Helsinki trade Bailey to another team, he would be ineligible to sign with either Helsinki or the 2nd team, until after the S68 Season. If for some reason the 2nd team also trades Bailey, he would be ineligible from signing with the 3rd team as well. New GM does not create a 2nd Player, and previous GM Player continues as the team's GM Player, following all rules applied to GM Players. Since your already tagged in this, Quik, just so I'm clear myself does that 3rd option mean Glade could effectively leave The Charm as the GM player until The Charm would naturally retire? I'm assuming at which point Glade himself, as the GM, would be forced to create a player or trade for his own player to effectively get a GM player on the roster? Or did we remove the rule that states a team must have a GM player associated with it? I'll be making a new GM player and letting Charm walk, but I need portal perms to do it dont I Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik 4,113 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 15 hours ago, Devise said: Or did we remove the rule that states a team must have a GM player associated with it? This. GMs no longer have to have a GM Player. Obviously, it is advantageous to have one, but if someone wants to run a team without one, they are free to do so. Devise 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedgehog337 3,483 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Quik said: This. GMs no longer have to have a GM Player. Obviously, it is advantageous to have one, but if someone wants to run a team without one, they are free to do so. woah. First hearing of this. @ShawnGlade apparently I misinformed you in PM. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,033 Posted December 2, 2018 Commissioner Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, ShawnGlade said: I'll be making a new GM player and letting Charm walk, but I need portal perms to do it dont I I believe this best falls under our new @Executive Administrator role haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted December 2, 2018 Senior Admin Share Posted December 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Beketov said: I believe this best falls under our new @Executive Administrator role haha Done. Has someone taken over Glades VHLM team yet? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik 4,113 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share Posted December 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Will said: Done. Has someone taken over Glades VHLM team yet? I don’t believe one has been officially named. @Banackock May have a replacement lined up to announce, but Glade is finishing the season as GM of Halifax Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,062 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Quik said: I don’t believe one has been officially named. @Banackock May have a replacement lined up to announce, but Glade is finishing the season as GM of Halifax Yes to all of the above Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Will said: Done. Has someone taken over Glades VHLM team yet? I'm finishing the playoffs with Halifax, I've also sent in my recommendations on who should take over, just waiting on an announcement now Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 @Will so um how do i make a new GM player Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted December 2, 2018 Senior Admin Share Posted December 2, 2018 1 minute ago, ShawnGlade said: @Will so um how do i make a new GM player You should be able to just create one here: https://vhlportal.com/tools/create This will unlink your existing player but I can re-link it after your new one is created. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Will said: You should be able to just create one here: https://vhlportal.com/tools/create This will unlink your existing player but I can re-link it after your new one is created. Done, made my new player. I should have 2 now right Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted December 2, 2018 Senior Admin Share Posted December 2, 2018 Just now, ShawnGlade said: Done, made my new player. I should have 2 now right Yes. I've re-added your other player. If you go to https://vhlportal.com/players/playermgmt you should see a button that lets switch between players. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Quik said: This. GMs no longer have to have a GM Player. Obviously, it is advantageous to have one, but if someone wants to run a team without one, they are free to do so. Nice, this is a cleaner solution than I thought then. Basically if you are an external hire and your former GM player was young enough that you just want to roll with it, you can without creating a player or doing anything. So pretty much ANY GM transition can be covered with these rules. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,033 Posted December 3, 2018 Commissioner Share Posted December 3, 2018 54 minutes ago, Devise said: Nice, this is a cleaner solution than I thought then. Basically if you are an external hire and your former GM player was young enough that you just want to roll with it, you can without creating a player or doing anything. So pretty much ANY GM transition can be covered with these rules. That was the intention of them Quik 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Will said: Yes. I've re-added your other player. If you go to https://vhlportal.com/players/playermgmt you should see a button that lets switch between players. So what about joining a vhlm team for playoffs Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/55708-gm-change/page/2/#findComment-568102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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