Guest Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Blades of Steel: Episode 14 (The Name Game) Running with a partner finally! I covered questions given to me and the league roundup. As well as PTI! #Sethknew Blades of Steel Game Link Graders Note: 1 Hour+ First Song: Summer - Calvin Harris Final Song: Cult of Personality - Living Colour Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,194 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You're dead wrong about Seattle, you could easily plug Jackson in that offense and he would be alright. He might not light the world on fire but they are far from in trouble. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 You're dead wrong about Seattle, you could easily plug Jackson in that offense and he would be alright. He might not light the world on fire but they are far from in trouble. He isn't a game manager though, not sure where people are getting that Jackson is good. He failed everywhere else he went and it was simply because he doesn't look through his reads. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,194 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 (edited) They run a lots of 12 and 21 formations and when they do pass it's in the 11 spread usually, so i mean all he needs to do is turn around hand off the ball of drop back and fire the ball 5-7 yards. He does fine in Bevells offense. Edited June 10, 2014 by Smarch Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 sorry bud, you're wrong on this one. I can throw 18-20 passes and the Hawks would be in the game. It's a good system yes, but to say Jackson goes in and would play the same is laughable. Considering none of his receivers are all world, and his accuracy is very bad, I'd argue it would be hard for them to have consistent progressions down field. Really not sure where the Jackson love comes from, his resume is so weak. You realize he has 39 TD's and 34 INT's in his career? With a QBR of 78.5 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,194 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 It's all about the system. he's best season while not great was in Bevell's system. Take Wilson and plug him in Green Bay and he's shit. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,194 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 Well i'm ranting in here i'll also say it was a good Podcast btw, one of the better ones. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,818 Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I took a look about that Referee award, but no joy. Probably needed more then 3 minutes to look though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 10, 2014 Share Posted June 10, 2014 I took a look about that Referee award, but no joy. Probably needed more then 3 minutes to look though. I eventually found it. The "Ed Thorp Memorial Trophy" which was awarded to the winner of the NFL before they switched to the Lombardi Trophy between the AFL/NFL. I'm sure there was another one though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 Seth. Jesus does love you. Its just the rest of the world that thinks you're an asshole <3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-82842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Love summer by Calvin Harris. Kendrick 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted June 12, 2014 Commissioner Share Posted June 12, 2014 Sharpe in the HoF haha, I wish. Nice to know someone doesn't believe in my "reputation" though, even if I kinda knew your view on the matter already. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Sharpe in the HoF haha, I wish. Nice to know someone doesn't believe in my "reputation" though, even if I kinda knew your view on the matter already. Yeah I've always looked at that as a silly little shitty incident. I also thought Scotty was a jerk in the way he handled it. One full season is 2 ½ months worth. Thats extremely harsh especially since we wanted to have as many active members as possible. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted June 12, 2014 Commissioner Share Posted June 12, 2014 Yeah I've always looked at that as a silly little shitty incident. I also thought Scotty was a jerk in the way he handled it. One full season is 2 ½ months worth. Thats extremely harsh especially since we wanted to have as many active members as possible. It was more Brooks than Scotty who handed that out. Plus, at the time, he didn't even want it to be that harsh. Originally Brooks was going to remove the points from the PT's that were copies (I don't want to dig into this anymore than I have in the past) and then tack on like a 2-3 week PT ban. But then everyone kinda came in kicking and screaming, one thing led to another, and by the time I came online to defend myself Brooks had been talked up to making it a full season ban. It was a whole big mess and I could put more blame down (I know who mostly talked him up) but it's not worth it anymore. The way I see it, shit happened and I can't change that. I just look at it now as my way of helping shape the rules haha Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Just look at how far you've come too. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 What happened exactly? Not that I would judge you by it, but like to know for history purposes Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted June 12, 2014 Commissioner Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) What happened exactly? Not that I would judge you by it, but like to know for history purposes It's hard to classify really, it's also been quite a while. In public opinion I was banned from updating for ripping. In hindsight it kinda was ripping and it kinda wasn't. I wasn't ripping in the sense that I took a sig, replaced the render and text, and called it my own. Rather I collected PSD tutorials, went through them, and re-created everything as best I could. Basically I ripped a few layers (stocks I didn't have) and the "look" of sigs. It doesn't make it good and I'm aware of that but I was a stupid kid, I didn't really think anything of it. That's part of the story at least. The other part is that those charges of "ripping" only got tacked on after the fact. Initially it was just that I had used "the same sigs" in multiple leagues. Basically I had done what I just stated above but did, in fact, take the render and text out to fit the needs. I still used my re-created ones so it was my work but not "100% original" as the rubric states. That rule has never really been a clear as it should be IMO but that didn't exactly stop the witch hunt that ensued at the time. I can't recall what the exact punishment was now and while the topic does still exist, the main post has been edited to reflect the changes. If I recall though, 1mill was removed from me and I had to give up the TPE I had earned. That was about it though; at least until everyone started shouting for my head and Brooks changed his mind on the matter. Not to justify it in any way but I have seen people caught for worse and they've received much less. I was sorta just the league scape goat early on I guess. That clear things up a bit? I feel I may regret this (I fully regret reading through it again) but if you can see stuff on the old board the topic is still up: http://z11.invisionfree.com/vhl/index.php?showtopic=926&st=0 Edited June 12, 2014 by Beketov Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Jay Bris should've been banned for using such a god awful sig tbh. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,022 Posted June 12, 2014 Admin Share Posted June 12, 2014 Wait, I always thought you ripped off someone else. You just used your own stuff from another league again? What kind of dumb ruling is that? Oh no, I read page 2. In any case, I don't think reputations here carry that long. Most people probably didn't even know until this thread came up. Still though, that thread is such a witch hunt. I'm pretty sure if any commish made a thread with such a punishment now, the commish would be the one getting the abuse lol. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,103 Posted June 12, 2014 Commissioner Share Posted June 12, 2014 Wait, I always thought you ripped off someone else. You just used your own stuff from another league again? What kind of dumb ruling is that? Oh no, I read page 2. In any case, I don't think reputations here carry that long. Most people probably didn't even know until this thread came up. Still though, that thread is such a witch hunt. I'm pretty sure if any commish made a thread with such a punishment now, the commish would be the one getting the abuse lol. Oh I know, the league has certainly come a long way. Keep in mind, that punishment was not what the topic originally said. Brooks was defending me somewhat at first. It wasn’t until others came with with “suggestions” that the punishment got so strict. As for what I did or did not do, it’s a middle ground. TECHNICALLY I was caught re-using things. Those things, as I explained above, were kinda rips and kinda not. It’s a hazy area. Certainly people have done worse and gotten a slap on the wrist but as I said, things have come a long way since then. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,022 Posted June 12, 2014 Admin Share Posted June 12, 2014 As have you. Having joined in S10, if your past wasn't mentioned (and I've never heard/seen it mentioned to put you down), then I would have no idea. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 It inspired you to be better with your sigs and now you work with graphics everyday. History was made. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted June 12, 2014 Senior Admin Share Posted June 12, 2014 Wow I read through that whole topic and it was......strange. Glad I wasn't around in the darker days Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 That thread felt like an SHL thread, not a VHL thread Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Indeed d_a, but thanks for sharing it Beketov. The stuff and comparisons I could see it were indeed equal style, but nothing I would consider bad. It's not like you submitted the exact same stuff. And 100% original work sounds like shit to me. That would mean all renders would have to be made with photo's you took yourself as well. All images people use on the internet, be it stocks, renders or random photo's. They did not make em theirselves so that's not 100% original. It feels way harsher then it should have been. I think the witch hunt was really uncalled for. I did find it funny to see Zimmers announce quitting the league in S2 already. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8950-claimedblades-of-steel-episode-14-wseth-the-name-game/#findComment-83508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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