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high tpe for low tpe player for the future. 1 for 1 to make sure rosters aren't imbalanced in #
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Not contesting, providing numbers because I was curious about how teams would look this season if players were evenly distributed by position. 2.25 C 6.25 W 3.5 D 1.6 G All on a per team basis, so about 8 forwards, 3 or 4 defensemen, 1 goalie. Obviously TPE makes it look a lot different, but the roster sizes are pretty decent. 12-13 players per team.
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There have been penalties levvied before for teams not properly pitching waivers. I fully hope, and expect to see punishments this offseason as well.
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No worries, I see what you mean as well now. There have been a lot of discussions on how to fix the issue with draft picks. Some teams have like 2 picks in the 4th and 5th round, while other teams have like 6 picks in the first 2 rounds. There's even been some circumventing of 1st and 2nd round pick limits that commissioners need to fix. Yukon and Houston are two teams that have taken advantage of the loophole brilliantly in the past few seasons. It does need to get fixed. To prevent teams from being so disproportionately loaded, draft pick trading needs to be severely limited. I don't have a proposed solution, but I know any solution will have to involve limiting how many picks can be traded. If they're online, yes, hopefully they get some time to respond. I think it's more of a concern if there are days between responses without any heads up. If they're online and active on discord, then it's expected they answer. I hope that no one gets ignored, and if there is intentional avoidance of a player, it's another situation to alert commies of. I don't think any M GM or AGM would do it intentionally though (hopefully)!
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1,062 words, will be claiming it as a review for 1 tpe.
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Agreed. At least in specific regards to its purpose compared to what it actually is. For a bit of context, the VHLM TPE Cap was reduced to 200 from 250, because the VHLE started operations as a middle league, from 201 TPE to 400 TPE. In order to try and make the VHLM more developmental, the cap was reduced to reduce player skill a little and therefore, attempting to disincentivize teams from trying to load up on capped players because the parity between the average member and a capped 200 TPE player wouldn't be that profound. However, it's basically just reinforced the cyclical nature of the VHLM, where if you're not going all out to compete, you're tanking to hell. If you're competing, you make moves to look like Yukon, Ottawa or Minnesota. Very few future draft picks, or you signed all the recreates in that season's waiver class. Teams like Mississauga and Houston sold their players when they could, effectively blowing up their teams and looking forward to the future. The real solution here is to eliminate the ability to have these extremes, and I know plenty of people have made suggestions on how to do this. Not going to address them. So the most important factor for this question is when you created in the VHL. If you create before the trade deadline, you have a choice between playing a lot of minutes for a team outside playoffs, decent minutes for a fringe playoff team, or very little minutes on a playoff lock. You seem to have joined on 10/21, a week ago - after the trade deadline I believe. You simply had the worst luck in that there were maybe 10-12 games left in the season, so wherever you joined wasn't going to really make a large impact on your stats. All you could do was try and select a team based on the ones who offered. Most of the time, they won't be those top teams because Minnesota had 14 skaters, Ottawa with 19 skaters, and Yukon with 18 skaters. Those top teams are basically set because of all the signings and trades they made earlier in the season. While there is the argument against allowing a handful of teams to get so overloaded with talent in any given season, I think it is important to understand the context at the time. In this case, you were mostly unlucky since every team basically knew their fate. You either get good minutes for 10 games, or no minutes and a shot at playoffs. Recreates have always been a point of contention. The teams that don't get them as waivers call for rule changes to limit recreates as you've said. However, it's a different team every season, or a different combination of teams every season. Minnesota has 5 recreates in 16 players, 2 of whom joined as waivers (after the trade deadline last week). Ottawa has 7 recreates out of 21, 2 of whom were waivers as well. Yukon has 10 recreates out of 20 skaters, 4 of whom were waivers. Maybe Yukon is just the most imbalanced one, but there will always be one team each season that has more recreates. It could be a team with a lot of high draft picks, or a team that drafted a couple recreates and were able to sign their friends later in the season. Waivers in the VHLM are about the only time in a recreate's playing career where they can choose where to play, and who to play with. It's long been an argument of why we shouldn't be limiting recreate waivers, because they're generally only for the last 10-12 games of the regular season and then playoffs. They go back into the draft afterwards. You can't stop people from wanting to play with their friends for part of a season, but you can definitely limit how many get drafted to a team. I know a proposed solution to parity issues as you initially mentioned has been to stop draft pick trading. It'd remove a lot of the cyclical nature of the M, and keep teams a bit more balanced. Does it basically eliminate any actual "management" portion of the M and turn M GM's into just mentors? Yeah, just about. Is it necessary? Maybe not to that extent, but a limit is needed for sure. Also specifically to the "have people on the team to ask questions," most M teams don't remove alumni. I know quite a few people who are in multiple M LR's, myself included. We stay in there for various purposes, scouting is my main reason. But I am happy to answer questions if people have them. I was asked if you could even post this article today and be able to claim it next week . Small stuff, us veterans do try and hang around first-gens to help out. So part of what we realized in this pandemic era is that people had a lot more free time than before. COVID restrictions being lifted, and school/work going back to in person/hybrid systems mean that people don't have as much time to keep an eye on their LR or DM's as they might have before. I know a few M GM's have been hit hard with this, as they now have school, after school activities, and even various sports practices that now take up most of their time. I think we also need to be a bit flexible with our team management, acknowledging that people have their own lives and will try their best to make time for their teams. If they're not around, then hopefully there are other people in the LR (alumni/guests) who you can ask questions to. If there is a situation where players are actually actively encouraged not to interact in a LR, I'd report that to @diamond_ace or @McWolf immediately. That's unacceptable. Love having open dialogue's, nicely written article! It's always nice to see new members' perspectives, especially so soon after creation. No two experiences are the same, and it's important to have these discussions when things are working as smoothly as they could. Retention is the #1 priority of the minor league and anyone affiliated with it. It's great to get back to those roots and shine a light on the issues surrounding it. 10/10 article
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Yeah, in my opinion, this is one of the toughest areas to really fix. Most of the disqualifications last season came from members who weren't particularly active on forums in the first place. There were a couple of other more veteran users who got disqualified, for various reasons, some appealed and got a payout reduction. Last season was odd, because it was my first managing VHFL, so I had to balance a very late start to VHFL since there was no proper hire, and also following the rules and precedents. I wanted to get groups moving as quickly as possible, because I don't like when groups finish at very different times. Part of why I'm hesitant to make a large structural change is because out of 114 participants in S79, 5 were disqualified and 2 received reduced payouts. That's about 6% of participants who either got skipped, or would have gotten skipped if they didn't appeal. It's such a pretty low number that I have no plans to change pick lengths. People already try to make their group take as much time as possible with 12 hours, and that's also something that is on the list to try and disincentivize. Also - slight aside. How are people in the Eastern world consistently asleep during their pick? It's a 12 hour window, does it just work out that your 12 hour selection falls during your night time? I'd think that it's pretty variable since every pick isn't an exact 12 hours, therefore more variability in when your pick window starts. Then again, work/school also impacts how much time you have in a day to make a selection. I don't want to start VHFL before Free Agency opens, but I also don't want it going a week into the season. Need more suggestions on what could work!
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So there is still some stuff pending that needs more fine tuning. I know time zones can hurt some people more than others, which was a root problem in your article. I've been thinking about potentially creating groups of people in similar timezones, or trying to set up a live draft on discord, almost like a NHL draft on Yahoo. Everyone shows up for 20-30 minutes to get it done. However, this is going to take more logistical planning than I've barely begun to approach, and better structuring in the sign up that I have yet to work on. I hope that at the least, the shift away from disqualifying users and more leeway for flexibility will be a temporary solution to your issue. I think we can make special allowances to people with valid time issues such as yourself without completely revamping how VHFL works.
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As some of you have seen, VHFL rules were revamped yesterday after the S80 regular season concluded. If you haven't seen it yet, check it out here. For those of you new to the VHL, or new to VHFL, and don't know what VHFL is, it's basically the VHL's version of fantasy hockey. You get assigned groups of 6, who then draft teams of 3 forwards, 2 defensemen, and 1 goalie. The highest scoring team in a group receives 6 uncapped TPE, the lowest scoring team receives 1 TPE. You will always get at least 1 TPE! Anyways, the first and only time VHFL rules seem to have been touched was back in 2016, when the original VHFL rules post went up. It was pretty standard, describing the basic rules and scoring. Over time though, concerning trends have emerged, as many folks have covered over the seasons. There was a community fantasy suggestion thread that had some VHFL concerns and suggestions, a lovely post by @Berocka describing his thoughts on how he'd change VHFL, another community suggestion thread with VHFL suggestions buried in there, and also my own statistical breakdown of why I considered VHFL broken. I'm sure there are plenty more, those were just some of the most prominent ones I found when searching VHFL on forums and looking for suggestions/complaints. While the change is still pretty fresh and hasn't received a lot of attention, @GustavMattias had a brief post talking about the VHFL changes, and @Beketov chimed in a bit. As promised, I will break down all changes to VHFL, in order of how they're structured in the new rules post. --- Disclaimer: This is a somewhat lengthy post, but I have tried to make it as concise as possible without excluding relevant information. There is no TLDR. I have tried to organize it as best as I can, but Section 3 - Scoring is a behemoth. Lot of words, lot of stats. If you don't like lots of numbers, skip that part. --- Section 1 - Basic Structure No changes Section 2 - Payout Change: In some instances, listed in Section 4: Drafting, a user may receive 50% of their final payout. Payouts always round up to the nearest whole number. (Ex. 2.5 -> 3, 1.5 -> 2, 0.5 -> 1) Rationale: In S80, a couple situations popped up where users missed two picks and made appeals to avoid being completely disqualified, therefore losing out on any VHFL payout. We're participating in this community for fun, so it seems fair to try and accommodate users when the situation warrants it. For example, a user had an issue with both forum notification settings, and also being in a different time zone than most of his group. He missed two picks, but was allowed to continue for a 50% reduction in final pay. Another user missed the 12 hour window by minutes, and was prompt to respond when being skipped. Considering how well DQ teams end up doing since they get picked by the VHFL manager, this is probably a merciful change for everyone. Section 3 - Scoring Old Scoring: New Scoring: and So a lot has changed here. The graphs in the "Why VHFL is Broken" media spot show why these changes were necessary. Below is a sample graph. Point shares make up what % of each skater's (forward or defenseman) VHFL points were made up of hits and shots blocked. Hits were generally fine, in most cases, even a bit lower than expected. Hits generally making up under 25% of the top 20% of skaters seemed a bit low for me, answering @GustavMattias's question of why hits were increased from 0.2 to 0.3. Hits have never been problematic in VHFL, despite the claims being floated around that they were. (S78 Graph of Hit point share and SB point share vs total VHFL points) Shots blocked was the real issue. The entire cluster spanning 50%+ were defensemen. The entire cluster underneath 25% were forwards. Once again, forwards weren't being properly compensated for physical play, in a comprehensive manner. The forwards who were taking advantage of the high shot block value were the ones on the worst teams, which naturally surrender the most shot attempts against, therefore generating the most blocked shots. The overall fix was to stop treating forwards and defensemen the same. Their scoring has been split apart, as defensemen naturally log more blocked shots, and on average, more hits. Granted, the top "power forwards" will pace the league in hits, but they are outliers. The Groovy Doods, the Mikko Lahtinens, the Christian Mingles. Hits across the board were increased by 0.1 to try and bring the average point share a bit closer to 25%, to ensure we don't lose value on physical builds. Shots blocked were nerfed across the board, but most severely for defensemen who saw a reduction of 0.5 points per shot block, and forwards saw a reduction of 0.2. Keeping them at 0.8 was a bit too imbalanced for my liking. (S80 Graph of Hit point share and SB point share vs total VHFL points POST SCORING CHANGE) This was the result of the change, using S80 stats. Overall, the massive defenseman SB cluster has basically joined up with the forward SB cluster, and the overall average is in a bit better place that I'd prefer, hovering slightly under 25%. Hits also got some love, averaging more closely to 25% rather than the 15% range under old scoring. The section between 250 and 350 is especially cool to see, as the point share for hits and shots blocked varies tremendously. It is now possible to be a top VHFL player without having ridiculous amounts of hits and shots blocked, therefore busting the meta of targeting 1. physical point scorers and 2. average/decent players on bad teams. Another big change was to non-physical attributes. Defensemen now get more love for putting up points, with goals increasing to 3 points from 2, and assists to 1.5 from 1. Forwards don't see any change to goals, but receive a 0.3 increase to assists. Playmaker players seem to have been lost in the shuffle, as players with high assist numbers received no love. You're welcome @IHateBobNutting, assists matter too! However, I acknowledge that sometimes high assist numbers are a byproduct of forward linemates, therefore only a slight increase. Defensemen are largely driven by assists, and with the sharp reduction in shots blocked, it seemed fair to reward point scoring as well. This significantly increases the disparity between elite defensemen and average defensemen, making only 15 of the top 30 S80 VHFL players post-scoring change defensemen, wirth only 3 defensemen in the top 3. Woooooo, diversity in statistical groups! The impact is clear in the revised point share graph below, which combines hits and shot blocked point shares for skaters, essentially creating a measure of what percentage of a skater's VHFL points comes from their physical play. This shows that the two physical stats generally make up about 40% of a player's final VHFL score, with the top physical players reaching 50% or higher. Jared Carter, who put up 355 hits and 135 blocked shots in a dominant physical performance, while also scoring 9 goals and 65 assists has his physical performance rewarded with 65.97% of his total VHFL points coming from hits and blocked shots. Physicality is not dead! I think that was a brief concern I saw in Gus' post. (Combined Hit/SB point share vs total VHFL points POST SCORING CHANGE) The final change was the addition of the +/- attribute. I hate the +/- stat to measure a player's defensive aptitude, as there are plenty of factors as to why it's not an accurate stat to measure individual defensive capability. However, it is a TREMENDOUS measure to determine whether you are getting boosted by playing on a BAD team, or if your stats may be slightly reduced because you play on a really GOOD team. For example, two Toronto players in S80 got the #1 and #2 forward positions in VHFL despite being a combined -89. Yep. They were on the ice for a combined 89 more goals against than for. It's a clear impact of how STHS is forced to give points to the few competent players on openly tanking teams. Adding 0.2 points, or removing 0.2 points per total +/- helps negate that impact a little bit. Here is the best way I can show you the difference from the old scoring system to the new one - with the top 30 skaters under the old system vs the new one using S80 statistics. I'm sorry if the tables are messed up for you, I suppose you should just get a bigger screen. Or take my word for it. Old: Rank ID # Player Name POS G A HIT SB Total Points 1 25 Reylynn Reinhart D 27 75 268 183 329 2 19 R D 26 78 189 179 311 3 105 Hadrian D 15 45 291 213 303.6 4 65 Chicken Wing D 23 53 79 235 302.8 5 5 Asher Reinhart C 59 59 42 144 300.6 6 86 Zeedayno Chara D 25 43 256 195 300.2 7 18 Matty Socks D 29 75 172 157 293 8 39 Victor Grachev D 23 67 179 179 292 9 14 Jeffrey Pines D 25 83 49 183 289.2 10 6 Kristof Welch D 34 81 20 167 286.6 11 40 Kasper Kankkunen D 20 70 175 172 282.6 12 11 Duncan Idaho RW 54 56 365 43 271.4 13 41 Battre Sandstrom D 16 73 262 140 269.4 14 135 Rusty Knale D 9 32 311 195 268.2 15 36 Robin Galante Nilsson D 20 74 117 159 264.6 16 77 Jaromir Lemiuex RW 36 36 105 167 262.6 17 103 Sven Reikkinen D 27 34 36 209 262.4 18 73 Jared Carter C 9 65 355 135 262 19 42 Jiggly Gumballs D 9 79 242 144 260.6 20 71 Hard Markinson D 28 47 173 153 260 21 70 Tom Eagles D 24 51 201 151 260 22 4 Groovy Dood LW 61 59 279 28 259.2 23 78 Tui Sova D 22 50 158 165 257.6 24 94 Lucifer Olivier Leveque D 15 49 145 184 255.2 25 53 Aurelien Moreau D 8 74 250 141 252.8 26 17 That Dude C 40 66 330 47 249.6 27 16 Henry Tucker RW 47 59 369 28 249.2 28 60 Linus Zetterstrom D 13 65 59 183 249.2 29 3 Tyler Reinhart RW 63 63 156 36 249 30 82 Magnus Verlander LW 34 37 248 117 248.2 New: Rank ID # Player Name POS G A HIT SB +/- Total Points 1 25 Reylynn Reinhart D 27 75 268 183 28 334.4 2 11 Duncan Idaho RW 54 56 365 43 41 324.3 3 19 R D 26 78 189 179 77 320.8 4 4 Groovy Dood LW 61 59 279 28 41 307.4 5 16 Henry Tucker RW 47 59 369 28 37 305.6 6 18 Matty Socks D 29 75 172 157 37 305.6 7 35 John LeClair II LW 44 50 390 36 33 298.2 8 17 That Dude C 40 66 330 47 3 293.6 9 3 Tyler Reinhart RW 63 63 156 36 76 291.5 10 5 Asher Reinhart C 59 59 42 144 -19 289.9 11 6 Kristof Welch D 34 81 20 167 39 287.4 12 73 Jared Carter C 9 65 355 135 -29 284.2 13 10 Gunnar Odinsson RW 40 71 292 32 22 283.5 14 41 Battre Sandstrom D 16 73 262 140 17 281.5 15 39 Victor Grachev D 23 67 179 179 9 278.7 16 14 Jeffrey Pines D 25 83 49 183 44 277.9 17 1 Jivere Zolnek C 46 87 135 29 73 277.6 18 40 Kasper Kankkunen D 20 70 175 172 23 273.7 19 86 Zeedayno Chara D 25 43 256 195 -9 273 20 37 Christian Mingle C 35 56 327 44 28 272.9 21 42 Jiggly Gumballs D 9 79 242 144 40 269.3 22 8 Jerome Reinhart LW 47 67 161 39 76 268 23 13 Robert Bouchard C 46 63 182 48 27 262.7 24 71 Hard Markinson D 28 47 173 153 47 261.7 25 36 Robin Galante Nilsson D 20 74 117 159 38 261.4 26 70 Tom Eagles D 24 51 201 151 24 258.9 27 105 Hadrian D 15 45 291 213 -25 258.7 28 66 Phil The Rock Johnson RW 30 46 403 20 29 258.5 29 53 Aurelien Moreau D 8 74 250 141 7 253.7 30 82 Magnus Verlander LW 34 37 248 117 -36 253.5 Overall, scoring is a lot more balanced. The biggest takeaway here is that you now have to be more intentional with choosing defensemen. No longer can you afford to consistently wait until the 5th round to pick a defensemen who will probably land in the top 10. There are clear top forwards, and top defensemen. Identifying them will be more difficult, but picking offensive players, even those who lack physicality, is now viable. Oh and goalies were tweaked a bit. Wins are now 2 points instead of just 1, saves got increased to 0.1 each, but there is finally a penalty for goals against. No longer can you coast on volume alone. Old Top 10: Rank # Goalie Name W SO SA GA Fantasy Points 1 14 Trent Gibson 19 1 3231 269 231.34 2 2 Jean Pierre Camus 49 5 2445 159 234.02 3 1 Markus Emerson Jr 54 1 2563 185 225.46 4 10 Jacob Carson 32 1 2782 236 215.22 5 12 Thadius Sales 27 0 2577 232 191.15 6 5 Artem Tretiak 36 2 2384 181 200.21 7 7 Kunibuni UnGuri 33 1 2419 207 192.84 8 13 Tater Tot 25 1 2573 226 194.29 9 8 Grekkark Gyrfalcon 32 2 2338 207 191.17 10 11 Andrew Bowman 28 0 2724 243 201.67 New Top 10: Rank # Goalie Name W SO SA GA Fantasy Points 1 2 Jean Pierre Camus 49 5 2445 159 272.1 2 1 Markus Emerson Jr 54 1 2563 185 258.3 3 5 Artem Tretiak 36 2 2384 181 211.8 4 10 Jacob Carson 32 1 2782 236 205.6 5 14 Trent Gibson 19 1 3231 269 204.7 6 6 Sirkants Klamasteris 35 1 2344 176 203.8 7 3 Rara Rasputin 38 1 2136 172 191.4 8 7 Kunibuni UnGuri 33 1 2419 207 188.7 9 8 Grekkark Gyrfalcon 32 2 2338 207 183.6 10 4 Kevin Malone 36 2 2324 219 183 Wins are more likely to land a goalie at the top. However, to avoid just selecting the goalie with the best team in front of them, the volume stats (saves) are still included, albeit at a reduced amount. The GA penalty drops Trent Gibson from 1 to 5, and Thadius Sales completely off the board. Overall, there were a lot of changes to scoring, and I'm writing this at 1 AM so I doubt I've really explained it all super in depth. If you need more clarification on this section, I'd be happy to answer questions or provide more statistics in the comments. Section 4 - Drafting Changes: Rules were added to clean up the end of drafts. Rationale: There were situations where the final person to select in a draft could hold up a group from being finished, and there was no written rule or precedent to skip or disqualify that person/those people. Adding a 6 hour grace period from the final pick to get a group wrapped up clarifies that area, and also allows for partial payouts instead of a pure disqualification because shit happens. Reducing the amount of disqualifications is better for everyone. Section 5 - Group Managers Changes: Just about this entire section is new, and formally details the role of, expectations for, and the resulting compensation for group managers. There is also now a rule that group managers can have pay stripped for not properly managing their group. Rationale: Group manager is a position that receives 1 additional uncapped TPE just for helping the VHFL manager out. It's difficult to keep an eye on 20+ groups, so having group managers helps to keep groups moving between VHFL manager check-ins. However, it's also a popular role since you're guaranteed at least 2 TPE for being a group manager, with the 1 minimum for last place plus the 1 for managing a group. There are times where that generosity has been abused, and there has been no precedent to remove a group manager's pay for not doing their job. Now there are clear expectations, and it outlines what a group manager must try their best to do to receive GM pay. --- Conclusion So this piece is also well over 2k words, I apologize. I know this sort of stuff is difficult to get through, and I really appreciate anyone who has actually read all the way up to this point without just skipping down to here. If you did skip down here and have a specific question on the rules, feel free to leave a comment and I can answer it directly if you want a concise answer. I would love to hear feedback on these changes, but please recognize that these changes will be going into effect starting the S81 VHFL season. I am happy to answer questions, clarify any points of confusion, and respond to constructive feedback. I will give 0 shits about complaints about the changes outlined above without valid rationale. Thanks for reading
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VHFL Rules Basic Structure A sign-up thread will be posted for every VHFL season. Users must post in the sign-up thread to participate in that year's VHFL. Any user who fails to sign up in the initial thread will be handled case-by-case. If allowed to participate, the user may face a reduction in their final payout. The VHFL Manager will determine the extent of the reduction. Entrants will be randomly sorted into groups of six users, with one Group Manager included. Each group will participate in its draft. Any situation with a number of entrants that is not divisible by 6 will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis. Each team will draft a roster of 3 forwards, 2 defensemen, and 1 goalie. The draft will go in snake order. The user with the 1st pick will draft the 12th, and the user with the 6th will pick the 7th. The rest will follow suit. Payout 1st place: 6 TPE 2nd place: 5 TPE 3rd place: 4 TPE 4th place: 3 TPE 5th place: 2 TPE 6th place: 1 TPE Note: In some instances, listed in Section 4: Drafting, a user may receive 50% of their final payout. Payouts always round up to the nearest whole number. (Ex. 2.5 -> 3, 1.5 -> 2, 0.5 -> 1) Scoring Forwards: Goals = 2 points Assists = 1.3 points Shots Blocked = 0.6 points Hits = 0.3 points +/- = 0.2 points Defensemen: Goals = 3 points Assists = 1.5 points Shots Blocked = 0.3 points Hits = 0.3 points +/- = 0.2 points Goalies: Wins = 2 points Shutouts = 5 points Saves = 0.1 points Goals Against = -0.5 points Drafting In the fantasy draft, you have 12 hours to make a pick. If you fail to make a selection in that period, you will be skipped. If you have already been skipped once and get skipped for a second time on any future turn, you will be disqualified, and the VHL Fantasy Zone Manager will draft the rest of your team for you. You will not be eligible for any VHFL TPE in that season. The final non-skipped selection in a group will have the normal 12 hours to select their final player. If they do not pick within that timeframe, and it was not their second skip, they will have an additional 6 hours to make the pick. If the pick is not made in the additional time, the VHL Fantasy Zone Manager will make it, and that team will receive 50% of their final payout. If the final selection misses the normal 12-hour window, and it would have been their second skip, they will be disqualified as normal. e.g., Sam is the last person slotted to make a selection, and all other teams' rosters are complete. Sam misses her final selection in the 12-hour window. Sam will get an additional 6 hours to make her final selection. If Sam had missed her 1st round selection in addition to this 6th round selection, she would be disqualified. Any team with pending selections at the end of the draft will have an additional 6 hours to complete their roster. If selections are not made in that time period, the VHL Fantasy Zone Manager will complete any unfinished rosters. If one selection must be made, the team will receive 50% of their final payout. If two selections must be made, the team will be disqualified as normal. e.g., N0HBDY was in Sam's draft group, and was the first person to select in the 6th round and missed his pick. He will have up to 6 hours after Sam's 12-hour window is completed to make his final pick. If he misses that window, his pending selection will be made by the VHL Fantasy Zone manager, and he will receive 50% of his final payout. Users on the tail end of the snake draft with two consecutive selections must make both picks within a 12-hour window. If the user fails to make both selections within the 12-hour window, they will be skipped for both picks. If the user has already been skipped once, and fails to make both picks within the 12-hour window, they will be disqualified. The user will not be eligible for any VHFL TPE that season. e.g., If User A has the 6th and 7th picks in the draft, they must make both selections within the same 12-hour timeframe. If they do not, and it’s their first skip, they are skipped for both selections. If it’s their second skip, they are disqualified. Group Managers Group Managers are expected to be familiar with, and enforce these VHFL rules in their group. This includes: Making a comprehensive roster of all teams and their selections. Spelling all player names correctly. Keeping their group moving (ex. moving on to the next team after a 12-hour pick window elapses). Group Managers will be selected at the discretion of the VHL Fantasy Zone Manager. Group Managers will receive one (1) bonus TPE on top of their final payout as compensation. If the VHL Fantasy Zone Manager determines that a Group Manager has not fulfilled the requirements of their position, they may revoke the GM pay at the end of the season.
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I'm not going to tag anyone because you'll find this post anyways! User Score 1 @NSG88 1528.46 2 @Mr_Hatter (GM) 1522.35 3 @Bojovnik 1518.55 4 @Banackock 1492.04 5 @GreenGato 1486.81 6 @BarzalGoat 1482.06 7 @Baby Boomer 1474.81 8 @CowboyinAmerica(GM) 1468.94 9 @Nykonax 1459.66 10 @chikn (GM) 1459.55 11 @(DQ) 1454.35 12 @STZ 1453.62 13 @FBR 1450.36 14 @diamond_ace 1443.62 15 @MattyIce 1442.26 16 @Moon_50 1441.95 17 @Telkster 1440.21 18 @BrutalBoost 1439.75 19 @dasboot 1439.36 20 @Jubis 1438.96 21 @hylands 1436.06 22 @scoop 1434.61 23 @JB123 1431.55 24 @Juice 1430.86 25 @v.2 (GM) 1424.95 26 @McWolf 1422.29 27 @RomanesEuntDomus 1421.96 28 @solas 1419.74 29 @Spence King - 50% payout 1419.36 30 @Jamomayo 1418.74 31 @Esso2264 1417.74 32 @Peace 1412.36 33 @Acydburn 1412.16 34 @Domg5 (GM) 1411.37 35 @Rhynex Entertainment 1410.15 36 @dlamb 1410.15 37 @Tate 1404.74 38 @MexicanCow123 1403.95 39 @Advantage 1401.86 40 @16z 1401.56 41 @Alex_J32 1400.62 42 @UnkemptCL4PTP 1399.28 43 @rjfryman 1398.88 44 @rory 1398.81 45 @Birdman 1394.37 46 @tinafrombobsburgers 1393.55 47 @Beaviss 1392.56 48 @Crstats 1391.66 49 @fromtheinside (GM) 1389.01 50 @leafsman (GM) 1388.88 51 @Ahma 1388.54 52 @N0hbdy 1388.41 53 @GustavMattias 1387.64 54 @Blazzer 1386.35 55 @Otto Numminen 1384.55 56 @MetalToday 1383.21 57 @Siddhus 1382.75 58 @JardyB10 1382.22 59 @bigAL 1380.75 60 @Will3 1379.16 61 @DQ 1377.48 62 @Josh 1373.34 63 @ajwllmsn 1371.61 64 @DollarAndADream 1368.41 65 @Enorama 1364.75 66 @(DQ) 1363.08 67 @Phil 1362.26 68 @(DQ) 1358.94 69 @Renomitsu 1358.81 70 @Seabass 1357.02 71 @OrbitingDeath (GM) 1354.21 72 @RIcer13 1352.48 73 @Tape-to-Tape 1350.68 74 @Greg_Di 1343.36 75 @FrostBeard 1339.48 76 @Webberj 1338.61 77 @KaleebtheMighty 1335.75 78 @qripll 1335.14 79 @jRuutu 1333.61 80 @Timmy Turner 1332.61 81 @fishy 1332.14 82 @Spartan (GM) 1323.48 83 @zepheter 1322.66 84 @DQ 1322.37 85 @Beketov (GM) 1322.28 86 @DMaximus 1319.94 87 @Brewins15 (GM) 1318.15 88 @Red (GM) 1315.15 89 @BladeMaiden (GM) 1313.95 90 @Alexandre 1313.88 91 @Viper 1310.95 92 @Zetterberg (GM) 1310.86 93 @Mr Bohannan - 50% payout 1300.95 94 @Matt thunder 1298.35 95 @Tomat0 1294.61 96 @TXC 1292.36 97 @DQ 1288.64 98 @MMFLEX 1286.48 99 @bukss_a 1278.21 100 @McKelvie 1273.94 101 @Daniel Janser 1271.81 102 @youloser1337 (GM) 1271.01 103 @Will 1267.41 104 @Prout 1266.55 105 @MattBake12 1259.15 106 @Gaikoku-hito 1252.28 107 @Frank 1249.68 108 @animal74 1234.28 109 @Minion 1232.68 110 @Kisslinger 1196.06 111 @Agito 1190.08 112 @Vice 1164.88 113 @TheCHEESE 1127.6 114 @Vkobe-v 1094.6
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Top goalies this season, if I've missed any that are retired/will be retired at the end of S80, please let me know! Ranking Player ID Goalie Name Wins Shutouts Shots Against Goals Against Fantasy Points 1 14 Trent Gibson 19 1 3231 269 231.34 2 2 Jean Pierre Camus (Retired) 49 5 2445 159 234.02 3 1 Markus Emerson Jr 54 1 2563 185 225.46 4 10 Jacob Carson 32 1 2782 236 215.22 5 12 Thadius Sales 27 0 2577 232 191.15 6 5 Artem Tretiak 36 2 2384 181 200.21 7 7 Kunibuni UnGuri 33 1 2419 207 192.84 8 13 Tater Tot 25 1 2573 226 194.29 9 8 Grekkark Gyrfalcon (Retired) 32 2 2338 207 191.17 10 11 Andrew Bowman 28 0 2724 243 201.67 11 4 Kevin Malone (Retired) 36 2 2324 219 193.35 12 6 Sirkants Klamasteris 35 1 2344 176 191.76 13 9 Doug Dimmadome 32 1 2314 212 184.14 14 3 Rara Rasputin 38 1 2136 172 180.48 15 15 Aksu Maronen 17 1 2369 186 174.81 16 16 β-TOR G 11 0 2610 274 174.52 17 27 β-SEA G 3 0 922 99 60.61 18 19 β-RIG G1 7 1 439 35 40.28 19 17 Papa Emeritus 9 0 500 44 40.92 20 28 β-LDN G 3 0 514 52 35.34 21 18 β-DCD G 7 0 416 28 34.16 22 23 Ajay Krishna 5 0 443 35 33.56 23 22 β-PRG G 5 0 436 48 32.16 24 20 Morgan Karlsson 6 1 286 23 29.41 25 21 β-NYA G 5 1 282 23 28.13 26 24 Barry Taffe 4 0 415 38 30.39 27 30 Aike van Giersbergen 3 0 338 27 24.77 28 29 Michael Olson 3 0 293 31 21.34 29 33 Carter Bellamy 1 0 412 47 26.55 30 26 Jurgis Kalvelis Blazevicius 4 0 260 27 20.31 31 106 β-TOR G1 0 0 278 31 17.29 32 25 Dexter Vaughn 4 0 150 15 13.45 33 31 β-CGY G1 2 0 111 12 8.93 34 32 β-LAS G 1 0 56 5 4.57 35 92 β-HSK G 0 0 31 2 2.03 36 50 β-RIG G 0 0 18 1 1.19
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Hello, I usually just do the top skaters, but I decided to do all skaters who recorded more than 0 VHFL points. It's fun that way. If I've missed any players that are retired, or will be auto-retired at the end of this season, please let me know. Ranking PID Player Name POS G A HIT SB Total Points 1 25 Reylynn Reinhart D 26 73 268 182 324.2 2 24 R D 24 75 182 177 301 3 64 Chicken Wing D 23 51 76 233 298.6 4 103 Hadrian D 15 45 282 208 297.8 5 5 Asher Reinhart C 58 58 42 144 297.6 6 87 Zeedayno Chara D 25 42 252 188 292.8 7 37 Victor Grachev (Retired) D 23 67 176 175 288.2 8 22 Matty Socks (Retired) D 29 71 164 156 286.6 9 7 Kristof Welch D 34 78 20 158 276.4 10 18 Jeffrey Pines (Retired) D 23 78 46 175 273.2 11 40 Kasper Kankkunen (Retired) D 18 69 168 166 271.4 12 44 Battre Sandstrom D 15 71 261 139 264.4 13 135 Rusty Knale D 8 32 306 191 262 14 74 Jaromir Lemiuex RW 36 36 103 164 259.8 15 71 Jared Carter C 9 63 351 134 258.4 16 100 Sven Reikkinen D 27 34 36 203 257.6 17 36 Robin Galante Nilsson D 20 71 115 154 257.2 18 16 Duncan Idaho RW 51 52 338 41 254.4 19 42 Jiggly Gumballs (Retired) D 9 77 232 141 254.2 20 4 Groovy Dood (Retired) LW 60 59 272 26 254.2 21 66 Tom Eagles D 24 50 197 145 253.4 22 92 Lucifer Olivier Leveque D 15 48 143 183 253 23 73 Hard Markinson D 26 46 167 151 252.2 24 80 Tui Sova D 21 49 150 159 248.2 25 14 Henry Tucker RW 46 58 360 28 244.4 26 76 Magnus Verlander LW 34 37 241 114 244.4 27 2 Tyler Reinhart RW 62 61 149 35 242.8 28 15 That Dude C 38 66 322 45 242.4 29 88 Alec Volchenkov D 11 54 107 181 242.2 30 65 Linus Zetterstrom D 12 62 58 179 240.8 31 8 Matty Fire C 47 63 31 96 240 32 34 John LeClair II LW 43 49 380 36 239.8 33 61 Aurelien Moreau D 8 67 239 136 239.6 34 112 Mikeal Keef D 8 43 164 184 239 35 104 Cowboy Prout (Retired) D 15 44 132 173 238.8 36 72 Jan Hlozek D 16 56 90 163 236.4 37 47 Scotty Kaberle D 19 65 50 150 233 38 114 L D 11 40 188 163 230 39 11 Gunnar Odinsson RW 40 67 283 31 228.4 40 138 Vladimir Mlinski D 5 32 188 186 228.4 41 109 Erlantz Jokinen D 13 45 177 150 226.4 42 85 Ove Dyrdahl D 9 58 231 130 226.2 43 115 Sportsboy57 D 23 28 82 169 225.6 44 67 Tyler Walker (Retired) D 11 62 121 146 225 45 12 Robert Bouchard C 45 61 176 48 224.6 46 91 Kosmo Kramerev (Retired) D 15 49 66 164 223.4 47 38 Christian Mingle C 35 54 317 44 222.6 48 125 Micah Adrienne (Retired) D 17 28 159 159 221 49 1 Jivere Zolnek C 43 83 130 29 218.2 50 31 Pekko Viitanen LW 46 48 155 58 217.4 51 9 Jerome Reinhart LW 46 63 155 38 216.4 52 130 Poopy Peepants D 6 37 249 143 213.2 53 79 Rolf Fizzlebeef Jr D 7 63 68 153 213 54 17 Red Lite RW 37 65 191 44 212.4 55 21 Dakota Lamb (Retired) C 49 51 76 60 212.2 56 6 Taro Tsujimoto C 46 67 156 27 211.8 57 13 Pistil Stamen C 47 57 163 33 210 58 141 Vasiliy Grigorev D 7 29 151 171 210 59 75 Lenny Sanderson LW 32 39 113 104 208.8 60 133 Corey Kitson D 21 20 110 156 208.8 61 27 Chris Reynolds LW 39 57 122 61 208.2 62 123 Marshall James Frostbeard (Retired) D 18 29 17 174 207.6 63 89 Nathan Steele C 20 45 51 140 207.2 64 129 Matt thunder D 10 33 198 140 204.6 65 122 Nathan Powers D 12 36 23 174 203.8 66 60 Phil The Rock Johnson RW 29 46 389 19 197 67 139 JaredN Jr D 8 29 211 137 196.8 68 10 Aloe Dear LW 51 56 44 37 196.4 69 45 Luke Thornton LW 32 53 197 46 193.2 70 51 Isau DaMoose C 40 40 179 44 191 71 126 Yuuto Kira Cloudera D 9 35 152 134 190.6 72 3 Julian Nousiainen C 36 85 4 39 189 73 119 Bob Tristan (Retired) D 13 35 118 128 187 74 20 Nathan Perry LW 45 56 58 36 186.4 75 131 Barron Kruulenstien D 3 38 5 172 182.6 76 54 Cabe McJake C 27 51 237 37 182 77 57 Gustislav Nasherov RW 39 38 30 75 182 78 68 Isabella Campbell C 37 36 226 32 180.8 79 49 Dominic Gobeil LW 39 43 175 30 180 80 127 Joe Madison D 17 27 102 121 178.2 81 86 Kyle Glass RW 31 36 225 44 178.2 82 145 Silas LeFriend D 6 25 140 140 177 83 29 Phoenix Dawson C 36 59 54 44 177 84 69 Brian Moreau LW 31 42 89 69 177 85 28 Lester Green C 35 60 101 33 176.6 86 26 The Terrible Trivium RW 38 59 1 51 176 87 53 Bogdan Trunov C 31 48 98 57 175.2 88 144 Kirishima Wakaro D 12 19 121 135 175.2 89 90 Dan Baillie Jr (Retired) RW 28 36 275 35 175 90 111 David Tavau D 2 50 30 142 173.6 91 23 Brendan Telker LW 44 56 15 33 173.4 92 118 Gustav Hjalmarsson D 15 34 52 121 171.2 93 32 Vick Fairchild LW 36 58 95 27 170.6 94 46 Jonas Stormsson LW 33 51 7 65 170.4 95 95 Druss Deathwalker RW 22 41 341 21 170 96 110 Nixon Caldwell D 6 48 105 111 169.8 97 39 Venus Thightrap C 38 51 87 31 169.2 98 19 Lee Xin RW 41 60 20 26 166.8 99 30 John Merrick (Retired) C 42 52 30 30 166 100 77 Frank Funk Jr LW 35 35 110 47 164.6 101 152 Zarek Kaczka D 7 18 37 156 164.2 102 50 The Seabasstard C 38 44 79 34 163 103 113 Jackson Philliefan D 12 39 19 120 162.8 104 151 Kevin Wu D 8 17 81 142 162.8 105 35 Its Gucci C 35 56 131 13 162.6 106 99 Alex Johnston RW 22 39 262 29 158.6 107 48 Rhynex Entertainment C 33 49 113 26 158.4 108 93 Addison McLaren LW 27 36 241 23 156.6 109 107 Jolly Greene Giant LW 27 31 204 37 155.4 110 33 Philip Stein LW 33 61 24 29 155 111 94 Joseph Sharkton C 20 43 131 56 154 112 147 Damien Salducci D 7 24 109 117 153.4 113 142 Arvid Johansson D 12 22 8 130 151.6 114 153 Milk Jugs D 7 17 109 123 151.2 115 43 Patrik Laine (Retired) RW 34 52 15 31 147.8 116 63 Kevin King (Retired) C 32 42 97 27 147 117 59 Justin Lose RW 36 39 24 36 144.6 118 128 Henri le Massif LW 25 19 296 19 143.4 119 97 Maksim Yakolevsky LW 31 30 117 33 141.8 120 58 Muffbeav LW 35 41 16 34 141.4 121 56 Dan Dan RW 29 48 43 30 138.6 122 106 Gary Rush RW 25 33 133 36 138.4 123 41 Nicholas Mariani LW 32 55 17 17 136 124 70 Lexi Glass RW 36 36 56 21 136 125 78 Guy Lambert C 26 44 111 21 135 126 52 Jakob Sosa C 25 55 20 30 133 127 62 Shane Lazeski RW 26 49 21 31 130 128 84 Artair McCloud RW 30 37 37 32 130 129 82 Nils Tallinder C 30 39 18 34 129.8 130 102 Steve Eso C 32 28 37 38 129.8 131 96 Mikey Markov RW 25 38 134 16 127.6 132 55 Paul Atreides C 27 51 32 20 127.4 133 81 Sheldon Juniper C 31 38 36 24 126.4 134 150 Vinny Detroit LW 12 14 338 26 126.4 135 146 Markuss Puhovs D 5 26 20 106 124.8 136 105 AJ Williams RW 29 30 42 35 124.4 137 83 Anze Miklavz RW 23 45 42 29 122.6 138 140 Sigard Petrenko RW 22 15 167 37 122 139 101 Brian Strong Jr C 25 35 34 32 117.4 140 116 Jonathan Ori C 14 37 102 34 112.6 141 98 TheCHEESE RW 23 38 49 14 105 142 121 Miles Johnson LW 18 30 108 17 101.2 143 120 Jon Webber RW 24 24 53 23 101 144 132 Declan Wolf RW 15 26 112 25 98.4 145 143 Taylor Mourning RW 19 14 116 25 95.2 146 108 Green Gaming C 18 40 23 16 93.4 147 136 Luc Tessier C 22 17 41 28 91.6 148 148 Wolf Weiss C 15 15 112 29 90.6 149 124 Jeffrenomitsu The 3rd RW 24 23 15 19 89.2 150 117 Vlad Imir RW 24 25 2 17 87 151 149 Calvin Hobbes C 11 19 131 19 82.4 152 134 Kaladin Kvothe LW 20 20 1 14 71.4 153 156 Inunnguaq Kiak D 0 9 41 63 67.6 154 158 β-HSK D1 D 1 6 59 58 66.2 155 160 β-HSK D2 D 0 4 72 53 60.8 156 137 chris foley C 13 24 2 9 57.6 157 157 Javad Kamkar D 2 6 34 37 46.4 158 164 β-HSK D5 D 1 2 79 28 42.2 159 163 β-TOR D4 D 0 3 69 19 32 160 155 Kid Frost LW 2 7 16 14 25.4 161 154 β-HSK C2 C 4 5 11 11 24 162 212 β-LDN D2 D 0 1 50 16 23.8 163 184 β-TOR D3 D 0 1 60 13 23.4 164 190 β-TOR D2 C/LW/RW/D 1 0 39 16 22.6 165 171 β-HSK D4 D 0 2 49 12 21.4 166 159 Trevor Wallace RW 4 3 8 10 20.6 167 178 β-TOR D1 D 0 1 39 13 19.2 168 204 β-WAR D2 D 0 1 18 14 15.8 169 170 β-TOR C2 C/LW/RW/D 1 1 22 10 15.4 170 161 β-HSK RW1 RW 0 4 25 5 13 171 203 β-WAR D1 D 0 1 24 9 13 172 169 β-SEA D2 D 0 2 22 8 12.8 173 162 creed C 1 3 0 8 11.4 174 200 β-PRG D4 D 1 0 9 9 11 175 199 β-PRG D1 D 1 0 8 9 10.8 176 304 β-RIG D2 D 0 0 19 8 10.2 177 167 β-WAR D3 D 0 3 15 4 9.2 178 374 β-MAL D1 D 0 0 18 6 8.4 179 185 β-SEA D1 D 1 0 8 6 8.4 180 208 β-LAS D2 D 0 1 3 8 8 181 176 β-NYA D4 D 0 1 14 5 7.8 182 340 β-SEA D5 D 0 0 15 6 7.8 183 370 β-NYA D2 D 0 0 10 7 7.6 184 187 β-HSK RW2 RW 0 1 16 4 7.4 185 205 β-WAR D4 D 0 1 6 6 7 186 166 β-WAR C3 C 0 3 4 4 7 187 175 β-LDN LW2 LW 2 0 3 2 6.2 188 179 β-DAV RW1 RW 1 0 4 4 6 189 172 β-WAR C2 C 0 2 6 3 5.6 190 194 β-RIG D3 D 0 1 7 4 5.6 191 180 β-DAV D2 D 0 1 11 2 4.8 192 173 β-WAR LW1 LW 0 2 10 1 4.8 193 375 β-DAV D1 D 0 0 6 4 4.4 194 191 β-DAV C1 C/LW/RW 1 0 8 1 4.4 195 251 β-TOR RW3 RW 0 0 9 3 4.2 196 314 β-TOR LW2 LW 0 0 4 4 4 197 174 β-WAR RW2 RW 0 2 8 0 3.6 198 202 β-WAR LW2 LW 0 1 5 2 3.6 199 165 β-CHI LW2 LW 0 3 3 0 3.6 200 188 β-CGY C2 C 0 1 4 2 3.4 201 201 β-DCD C1 C 0 1 3 2 3.2 202 211 β-LDN RW2 RW 1 0 1 1 3 203 181 β-MOS LW1 LW 0 1 5 1 2.8 204 207 β-LAS RW2 RW 0 1 1 2 2.8 205 186 β-NYA C2 C 0 1 5 1 2.8 206 196 β-RIG D4 D 0 1 8 0 2.6 207 193 β-MAL RW1 RW 1 0 3 0 2.6 208 197 β-PRG LW1 LW 0 1 4 1 2.6 209 377 β-TOR C3 C 0 0 4 2 2.4 210 206 β-LAS LW2 LW 1 0 2 0 2.4 211 192 β-RIG LW1 C/LW/RW 0 1 6 0 2.2 212 168 β-DAV LW2 LW 0 2 1 0 2.2 213 195 β-SEA D3 D 0 1 2 1 2.2 214 198 β-PRG C2 C 0 1 2 1 2.2 215 183 β-SEA RW1 RW 0 1 5 0 2 216 177 β-NYA C1 RW 1 0 0 0 2 217 210 β-LDN RW1 RW 0 1 4 0 1.8 218 376 β-MOS C2 C 0 0 7 0 1.4 219 189 β-MAL D3 C/LW/RW/D 0 1 2 0 1.4 220 182 β-RIG C2 C 0 1 2 0 1.4 221 209 β-LDN LW1 LW 0 1 1 0 1.2 222 372 β-NYA LW2 LW 0 0 5 0 1 223 301 β-CGY LW2 LW 0 0 4 0 0.8 224 380 β-RIG RW2 RW 0 0 1 0 0.2
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Below are the S80 VHFL Payouts. Please DM me on forums, or on Discord (uɐʇɹɐdS#3393) if you have any questions or concerns. Please don't have questions or concerns. S80 Skater Rankings S80 Goalie Rankings S80 User Rankings To claim VHFL on the portal: Player Management -> Claim uncapped -> Fantasy -> VHFL Rank Group 1 TPE 1 @diamond_ace (GM) 1443.62 6+1 2 @MexicanCow123 1403.95 5 3 @Crstats23 1391.66 4 4 @N0HBDY 1388.41 3 5 @MMFLEX 1286.48 2 6 @McKelvie 1273.94 1 Rank Group 2 TPE 1 DQ 1454.35 6 2 @FBR 1450.36 5 3 @leafsman (GM) 1388.88 4+1 4 DQ 1358.94 3 5 @Tomat0 1294.61 2 6 @Prout 1266.55 1 Rank Group 3 TPE 1 @dasboot 1439.36 6 2 @McWolf 1422.29 5 3 @Advantage 1401.86 4 4 @bigAL 1380.75 3 5 @youloser1337 (GM) 1271.01 2+1 6 @Gaikoku-hito 1252.28 1 Rank Group 4 TPE 1 @BrutalBoost 1439.75 6 2 @Juice 1430.86 5 3 @Beaviss 1392.56 4 4 @Siddhus 1382.75 3 5 @DQ 1377.48 2 6 @Renomitsu 1358.81 1 Rank Group 5 TPE 1 @Mr_Hatter (GM) 1522.35 6+1 2 @Esso2264 1417.74 5 3 @rory 1398.81 4 4 @jRuutu 1333.61 3 5 DQ 1288.64 2 6 @Kisslinger 1196.06 1 Rank Group 6 TPE 1 @Bojovnik 1518.55 6 2 @Spence King - 50% payout 1419.36 2.5 -> 3 3 @Alex_J32 1400.62 4 4 @fromtheinside (GM) 1389.01 3+1 5 @zepheter 1322.66 2 6 @Vice 1164.88 1 Rank Group 7 TPE 1 @Nykonax 1459.66 6 2 @MetalToday 1383.21 5 3 @Will3 1379.16 4 4 @fishy 1332.14 3 5 @BladeMaiden (GM) 1313.95 2+1 6 @Alexandre 1313.88 1 Rank Group 8 TPE 1 @chikn (GM) 1459.55 6+1 2 @Peace 1412.36 5 3 @Blazzer 1386.35 4 4 @DMaximus 1319.94 3 5 @Will 1267.41 2 6 @Minion 1232.68 1 Rank Group 9 TPE 1 @Moon_50 1441.95 6 2 @GustavMattias (GM) 1387.64 5+1 3 @ajwllmsn 1371.61 4 4 @Greg_Di 1343.36 3 5 @KaleebtheMighty 1335.75 2 6 @animal74 1234.28 1 Rank Group 10 TPE 1 @GreenGato 1486.81 6 2 @Acydburn 1412.16 5 3 @Tate 1404.74 4 4 @Enorama 1364.75 3 5 @Spartan (GM) 1323.48 2+1 6 @Viper 1310.95 1 Rank Group 11 TPE 1 @Banackock 1492.04 6 2 @BarzalGoat 1482.06 5 3 @rjfryman 1398.88 4 4 @Webberj 1338.61 3 5 @Red (GM) 1315.15 2+1 6 @MattBake12 1259.15 1 Rank Group 12 TPE 1 @Telkster 1440.21 6 2 @hylands 1436.06 5 3 @JardyB10 1382.22 4 4 DQ 1363.08 3 5 @Brewins15 (GM) 1318.15 2+1 6 @Vkobe-v 1094.6 1 Rank Group 13 TPE 1 @RomanesEuntDomus 1421.96 6 2 @dlamb 1410.15 5 3 @Ahma 1388.54 4 4 @OrbitingDeath (GM) 1354.21 3+1 5 @Tape-to-Tape 1350.68 2 6 DQ 1322.37 1 Rank Group 14 TPE 1 @MattyIce 1442.26 6 2 @Birdman 1394.37 5 3 @tinafrombobsburgers 1393.55 4 4 @DollarAndADream 1368.41 3 5 @Seabass 1357.02 2 6 @Beketov (GM) 1322.28 1+1 Rank Group 15 TPE 1 @solas 1419.74 6 2 @Jamomayo 1418.74 5 3 @Domg5(GM) 1411.37 4+1 4 @bukss_a 1278.21 3 5 @Agito 1190.08 2 6 @TheCHEESE 1127.6 1 Rank Group 16 TPE 1 @scoop 1434.61 6 2 @Rhynex Entertainment 1410.15 5 3 @16z 1401.56 4 4 @UnkemptCL4PTP 1399.28 3 5 @Otto Numminen 1384.55 2 6 @Zetterberg (GM) 1310.86 1+1 Rank Group 17 TPE 1 @NSG88 1528.46 6 2 @CowboyinAmerica (GM) 1468.94 5+1 3 @STZ 1453.62 4 4 @JB123 1431.55 3 5 @Timmy Turner 1332.61 2 6 @Frank 1249.68 1 Rank Group 18 TPE 1 @Baby Boomer 1474.81 6 2 @v.2 (GM) 1424.95 5+1 3 @Josh 1373.34 4 4 @FrostBeard 1339.48 3 5 @Mr Bohannan 50% payout 1300.95 1 6 @Hogan 1292.36 1 Rank Group 19 TPE 1 @Jubis 1438.96 6 2 @Phil 1362.26 5 3 @Ricer13 1352.48 4 4 @qripll 1335.14 3 5 @Matt thunder (GM) 1298.35 2+1 6 @Daniel Janser 1271.81 1
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you'd trade your star player for a 7th smh congrats @Moon_50!
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Minnesota Storm Press Conference Questions
Spartan replied to Matmenzinger's topic in Team Press Conferences
1. I've always dreamed of dying my hair green and being the Joker. My hair this year is the longest it's ever been, so it could work. Maybe if I keep growing it out, it'll be viable next year. 2. I don't think we need to level up or try to make a sweeping change to our structure right now. We're doing well, so just gotta stick to our game and the wins will come. 3. Well I suppose there's only one right answer to this question lol, and that's that I hope so. 4. Stevo Inactivo!!!!! I think. Whoever Ray's brother was . 5. I don't think I will ever subscribe to him, I don't find cringe content amusing. 6. Absolutely. We're rolling with strong performances across the board. I think we're ready to square off against anyone! -
It's been a blast having you here with us! I 100% don't regret giving up a lottery pick for you, you've been all that and more for us
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1. For motivation, probably myself I suppose. Usually the first one to react to daily sims. For humor, I think a few different people provide that, from Phil Stein, to Sam, to Tristan. 2. Well, I'd love to lace up for Moscow but that may come in due time. In Minnesota though, I've been glued to the first line so I'm pretty happy with it! 3. I like to hang out in Pittsburgh, they've got some pretty nice areas and places to hang out around the city, so I prefer to spend some time there. 4. In football, I generally go 7 if I'm a quarterback, 90 on defense. But hockey may have to be 81, it's the number I generally pick for my BAP's in chel. 5. Probably winning the Victory Cup in S76, we had a great team and the vibes were immaculate. 6. I've only been to one NHL game, and that was back in 2009 I think, a Devils/Panthers game I think, and we were given first row tickets. I have bought tickets to a Devils/Penguins game early 2022, so that should be a great time!
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BOG please vote him in
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@Victor
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Edit: Formerly named "I goofed up and read Kellinger as Killinger so here's a HOF article for a player that isn't in the HOF, but I sure as shit am getting TPE out of this." Ok, so a nice backstory here. S79 HOF Induction happened, I didn't really pay attention to it. I just knew Hogan got in from Discord. Later in the week, I saw Victor post that we needed HOF articles written up, and since they're 5 uncapped TPE, I jumped at the opportunity. There were a couple other folks in the thread, and the one unclaimed one that no one seemed to want was a player being referenced to as Kellinger. I read it as Killinger, aka Erik Killinger, Peace's forward turned defenseman. So below is my HOF article for a player that isn't in the HOF, and may never even get inducted to the HOF. Let this be a lesson to check player names to the individual letter. --- Position: D Birthplace: Canada Height: 6'5" Weight: 208 lbs Jersey Number: Drafted: S71 Round 1, Pick 11 (London) Username: @Peace Erik Killinger was a truly special talent. Once an oversized sniper of a winger that lacked any edge or grit, Killinger bloomed into one of the best all-around defensemen in the most recent expansion era of the VHL. Despite lighting up the league as a rookie with 53 points in 72 games, Killinger made the decision to transition into a blue-liner to better assist the team that drafted him, the Toronto Legion. Across his stoic 8 year career, Erik Killinger managed to average over a point per game, and only dipped below a point per game in a season during his rookie and sophomore seasons in the league. As he grew older, his all-around game improved as well, not only driving the offense for any team he played for, but also going from under 100 hits in a season to being one of the most physical players in the league. Although the teams he played for experienced plenty of flux and heartbreak, Killinger’s underlying play was generally rock solid, earning him a place in the VHL Hall of Fame. Career Stats Regular Season 575GP / 158G / 432A / 597P / +25 / 1980 SHT / 1100 PIM / 1643 HIT / 1055 SB / 21 GWG / 75 PPG / 3 SHG Postseason 34GP / 10G / 23A / 33P / -2 / 112 SHT / 72 PIM / 124 HIT / 80 SB / 1 GWG / 5 PPG / 0 SHG Career Awards (S69) Founder’s Cup (SSK) (S77) Sterling Labatte Trophy (Top Defenseman) (LDN) (S77) Jake Wylde Trophy (Top Defensive Defenseman) (LDN) S69 Saskatoon Regular Season 24GP / 2G / 6A / 8P / +13 / 33 SHT / 10 PIM / 16 HIT / 3 SB / 0 GWG Postseason 14GP / 4G / 4A / 8P / +3 / 27 SHT / 0 PIM / 4 HIT / 1 SB / 2 GWG In Erik Killinger’s debut VHLM season, he chose to sign with one of the favorites to win the Founder’s Cup - the Saskatoon Wild. Although he only saw limited minutes as he adjusted to the pace of professional hockey, his impact on the ice can’t be underestimated. A highly intelligent and athletically gifted player, Killinger picked up 8 points in 24 regular season games, even throwing his 6’5” frame around a little bit. In the playoffs, Killinger flashed the offensive potential that he’d soon develop even further, with 4 goals and 4 assists in just 14 games as the Wild proceeded to win the Founder’s Cup that season. S70 Houston Regular Season 72GP / 62G / 62A / 124P / +55 / 411 SHT / 26 PIM / 54 HIT / 20 SB / 13 GWG / 12 PPG / 2 SHG Postseason 8GP / 3G / 4A / 7P / 0 / 31 SHT / 4 PIM / 6 HIT / 2 SB / 1 GWG / 1 PPG / 0 SHG As the first overall selection of the S70 VHLM Dispersal Draft by the Houston Bulls, all eyes were on Killinger who had seemingly made a name for himself as a top offensive winger in the S71 Draft Class. Expectations were through the roof and in his first full season, Killinger delivered to the tune of 62 goals and 62 assists for a total of 124 points and a +55 rating. A truly jaw dropping offensive output from such a young player, but one to be expected from a first overall selection. Unfortunately, the offensive performance didn’t translate into the playoffs that year, with Killinger putting up only 3 goals and 4 assists in 8 games, leaving him to turn his sights on the impending VHL draft. S71 Toronto Regular Season 72GP / 28G / 25A / 53P / +6 / 358 SHT / 42 PIM / 92 HIT / 35 SB / 4 GWG / 6 PPG Somehow, the top pick of the S70 VHLM Draft made it down to the 11th selection of the S71 VHL Draft, where Toronto was more than happy to draft the big bodied winger. In an interview before the season began, Killinger mused over his goals for the season, hoping to score around 60 points, but realizing the era he was in could result in a more manageable 30 point season. With 4 rookie forwards debuting on the team in the same year, Killinger was given the opportunity to play on the first line immediately, alongside Chad Magnum and Nethila Dissanayake. Despite the Legion finishing last in the North American conference, Killinger enjoyed a productive rookie season, posting 28 goals and 25 assists, reinforcing the idea that he could become the top offensive threat for Toronto’s future. S72 Toronto Regular Season 72GP / 14G / 50A / 64P / -11 / 236 SHT / 152 PIM / 217 HIT / 142 SB / 0 GWG / 11 PPG Playoffs 7GP / 0G / 2A / +2 / 22 SHT / 16 PIM / 40 HIT / 12 SB / 0 GWG / 0 PPG In the offseason before S72, Killinger made a shocking decision - to switch from a forward, to a defenseman along with Leon and Gabriel Gutzwiler. With 3 sophomore forwards and 2 more rookie forwards joining the team in S72, Killinger chose to play back as a blue-liner to provide the team more flexibility. While Killinger had never really shown the capability to play with his enormous size as a forward, the move to defense seemed to have refocused Killinger, unlocking his physical side to the tune of 217 hits and 142 blocked shots. A player that once was categorized as unable to use his massive frame was now on his way to being a top offensive/physical defenseman. The move seemingly helped Toronto as a whole, as the Legion snuck past the Vancouver Wolves to claim the final playoff spot in the NA Conference and secure a first round date with the Calgary Wranglers. However, Killinger was poor in his playoff debut, struggling to make an offensive impact in the series, notching only 2 assists in the 7 game series. A heartbreaking 4-3 loss in Game 7 sent the Legion packing, with hopes to return the next season. S73 Toronto Regular Season 72GP / 19G / 62A / 81P / +1 / 232 SHT / 174 PIM / 250 HIT / 166 SB / 4 GWG / 9 PPG S73 marked a memorable point in the VHL, as four new teams were added to the league through expansion. Maybe not so memorable was that Toronto missed the playoffs yet again, but three players on the Legion tried their absolute hardest to avoid it from happening - Teemi Lehtinen Jr, Chad Magnum, and Erik Killinger. For the first time in his young career, Killinger averaged at least a point per game, putting up 19 goals and 62 assists from the blue line. He continued to build on the physical side of his game, adding 250 hits and blocking 166 shots, but in the end, Toronto was still left floundering outside the playoffs, and Killinger headed into the offseason with renewed vigor, hoping to finally make it past the first round of the playoffs. S74 Toronto Regular Season 72GP / 18G / 71A / 90P / +27 / 252 SHT / 156 PIM / 210 HIT / 138 SB / 1 GWG / 11 PPG Postseason 12GP / 4G / 15A / 19P / 11 / 50 SHT / 30 PIM / 41 HIT / 37 SB / 0 GWG / 2 PPG In arguably the best season of Killinger’s career, Toronto easily secured a playoff spot off the tremendous efforts of the stud blue liner. With 18 goals and 71 assists for 90 points, Killinger was the 6th best defenseman in points, and landed just outside the top 10 for both hits and shots blocked. A truly complete performance by Killinger throughout the season led Toronto to the playoffs for just the second time in his career, where they matched up against the perennial cup contenders, the Seattle Bears in a best of seven series. Although they dropped the first game, Toronto stormed back to win the next four in a row, setting up a second round matchup with the Vancouver Wolves. The series went all the way, with Vancouver winning both Game 6 and 7 to move on, leaving Toronto heartbroken. Killinger had another career best, this time in playoff performance, putting up 19 points in 12 games. While the team had met its goal of getting past the first round, a second round exit was no better. With key members of the team facing UFA and retirement, GM Rylan Peace was ready to make some massive changes. S75 London Regular Season 72GP / 22G / 55A / 77P / -10 / 213 SHT / 168 PIM / 229 HIT / 133 SB / 1 GWG / 13 PPG Postseason 4GP / 1G / 1A / 2P / -3 / 15 SHT / 16 PIM / 9 HIT / 6 SB / 1 GWG In the stunner of the S74-S75 offseason, London and Toronto made a mega deal that sent Erik Killinger, Chad Magnum and an S77 TOR 1st to London in exchange for London’s 1st round picks from S75 through S77. London, an expansion team, was attempting to be the first team to make a deep playoff run, and felt that they had the other pieces to make it happen. With Kevin Malone in net, and multiple young, promising forwards, it seemed like a playoff fantasy could become reality. Killinger performed as expected of a top defenseman, leading the team in points with 22 goals and 55 assists. His performance helped London sneak into the EU conference playoffs as the 5th seed, but were quickly eliminated in the best of 5 series by Moscow. S76 London Regular Season 72GP / 18G / 58A / 76P / -6 / 227 SHT / 129 PIM / 206 HIT / 132 SB / 2 GWG / 7 PPG / 1 SHG Despite another year of growth, and the acquisitions of Kevin King from Vancouver and Julian Nousiainen, London failed to reach the playoffs in S76. By his lofty standards, even Erik Killinger had a down year. However, he still maintained his point per game pace, putting up 18 goals and 58 assists, and continued to be a physical defender on both ends of the ice, even chipping in a short handed goal this year. A frustrating year for London, and everyone was quick to move on to the next season with renewed hope and expectations of a bounce back season. S77 London Regular Season 72GP / 26G / 60A / 86P / +30 / 242 SHT / 122 PIM / 177 HIT / 182 SB / 6 GWG / 11 PPG / 2 SHG Postseason 6GP / 2G / 2A / 4P / -5 / 14 SHT / 4 PIM / 17 HIT / 14 SB / 0 GWG / 2 PPG S77 saw London make another swing for the fences, similarly to how they traded for Killinger from Toronto. This time, Bahram Kamkar, Kevin Malone, Maksim Yakolevsky, Philip Stein, the 3rd overall pick in the S77 draft, and a S78 LDN 3rd went to Moscow in exchange for award winning goalie Jacob Tonn, superstar Mikko Lahtinen entering his final season before retirement, and Moscow’s 1st round pick in S77 which turned out to be That Dude. With such pedigree coming into London to reinforce the team, playoff aspirations were back on the table, and Killinger had a new hop in his step. For the first time in a long time, Killinger didn’t lead his team in scoring, not even in the top 3, but still managed to put up 26 goals and 60 assists, earning him Labatte and Wylde honors at the end of the season for a truly spectacular defensive performance. Defensemen scoring over 25 goals in that era were rare, and Killinger managed to do it with ease, putting up 6 game winning goals and 2 short handed goals as well. The overall success of the team granted them a path straight into the playoffs as the second seed, avoiding the play-in round entirely. In the first round, they met the Helsinki Titans, where the Titans just couldn’t be stopped, winning 4-2 and sending Killinger home early once again. S78 Helsinki/Toronto Regular Season 71GP / 13G / 50A / 63P / -12 / 210 SHT / 157 PIM / 262 HIT / 127 SB / 3 GWG / 7 PPG Postseason 5GP / 3G / 3A / 6P / -5 / 11 SHT / 6 PIM / 17 HIT / 11 SB / 0 GWG / 1 PPG In the penultimate season of Erik Killinger’s career, London graciously provided the veteran defenseman with the opportunity to return back to where his career started. Toronto acquired Killinger and an S80 2nd in exchange for Micah Adrienne and an S80 3rd. Despite Toronto signalling an intent to compete for a playoff spot, they struggled, and Killinger wasn’t quite his consistent self. In 51 games with Toronto, Killinger scored 10 goals and notched 35 assists, but a -22 rating. At the trade deadline, Toronto decided to blow it all up, sending Killinger to Helsinki in exchange for an S79 2nd and S80 3rd. Helsinki was having a better season at that point, and Killinger once again flashed the all-around skills that made him a top defenseman in the league, with 3 goals and 15 assists in 20 games with the Finnish team. In the playoffs, Killinger seemed to have returned to form, with 3 goals and 3 assists in 5 games against the Malmo Nighthawks. In a crushing loss though, Malmo won the series in Game 5, with a 7-4 win, closing the curtains on the final chapter of one of the best all-around defensemen in VHL history. Over 2k words, 4 weeks of claim.
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