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Meant to add this update for the GM's but forgot so I'll add it now, it's only 1 sim late. Here is where you all stand in regards to backup starts. Calgary: 4/8 DC: 15/8 New York: 13/8 Seattle: 8/8 Toronto: 3/8 Vancouver: 6/8 Davos: 8/8 Helsinki: 4/8 Malmo: 1/8 Moscow: 18/8 Prague: 10/8 Riga: 8/8 As a note, these might not be completely accurate. A few teams have traded or released goalies so it's kinda hard to tell at this point if everything is accurate. I know DC and Moscow are listed higher than they should be though both definitely have enough. It'll be more obvious come the end of the season but if GM's want to be sure to avoid punishment they should check the starts of players they traded or released to showcase that they had played them prior. @VHL GM

409! I'm officially the sole owner of 4th place all time in goals. No chance of hitting 3rd since I think I'd need like 30 more goals but I don't mind having the most goals since S10. Maybe I'll start sharing a bit now.

You also aren’t being forced to do anything. No GM NEEDS to take their own player. If they want to that’s their choice. They also don’t HAVE to put the claim in, they can just draft themselves normally without it. However that runs the risk of someone else taking them.

1 more goal to put me as solo owner of 4th place will be the most anyone has scored since Szatkowski and he retired in S10 which is crazy.

Most TPA definitely doesn’t = best player. TPE doesn’t automatically mean success. In any case that all was just one member’s opinion as well. Every GM is different and we allow them the freedom to build their lines and rosters as they choose. Obviously in the VHLM we enforced activity over TPE because it’s about bringing people in and keeping them active above all else but GMing in the VHL is different. Obviously Motza also said there are exceptions. You can’t really simplify lines down that far and not have any exceptions.

I wish I could explain it. There’s honestly too many variables to go through. Your lines are correct as per the ones you sent yesterday so unless there’s something weird in there it’s just annoying flukes.

Bots have literally always squeaked a few minutes out since S1. They logically shouldn’t and aren’t on any lines but somehow they always seem to.

I re-organized it as suggested above. Deleted the weekly PT sub-forum but kept the career one. So we have actually 1 less sub-forum listed on the main board than we used to but the main tasks are still reachable without an extra click.

Holy shit, don't see a game like that every day. Save some points for the rest of us @OrbitingDeath! Officially tied for 4th place all-time in goals. Just 1 more to get the placement all to myself.

Good win boys!

Forgot your guy was in this draft tbh. It doesn’t apply to any player created before the GM’s were notified of it. Glade Jr. would be the first.

You act as if you didn’t know about this over a week in advance.

I’d be fine going this direction. My intention was to clean up the section since it was starting to become a tad unruly but if the extra click is that bothersome it’s not hard to pull them back out.

The exact details of the claim are still being discussed. That particular caveat was added after the others in response to GM concerns so we haven’t flushed out every detail of it. We’ll get it sorted out before it needs to come up which will be the S70 draft.

If they want their own player yes. They could be in the middle of a rebuild or something when their player is coming up and would rather trade for them later or just not get them at all. The point is they have options.

That’s not what I asked, I get that. You’re saying the 6+ TPE tasks shouldn’t be buried in sub forums while the 2 TPE tasks aren’t. I’m asking if you think the sub-forum shouldn’t exist or if the VHL.com stuff should be in there with them.

I’m just not sure I understand how it makes no sense. Am I misunderstanding? Are you complaining that the point tasks got an extra sub-forum or that the VHL.com stuff isn’t part of that sub-forum?

General organization? With 5 career point tasks now it didn’t make sense to have the point task sub-forum have 14 items in it, was just to messy. A single extra click is worth the organization. FWIW we could move the VHL.com stuff into point tasks.

Unlinking GM Players Since the VHL's very first season GM's have always had their player linked to their team. This meant that they automatically went to that GM's team instead of entering the draft and had complicated rules regarding how they could be traded, how GM changes were made, etc. This was made only worse when project player 2 was initiated and then kept around for GM's only. But not any more. As of now GM players are no longer a thing! So what does this mean exactly? Obviously GM's can still have players however GM is becoming like every other position in the league and will be only a job, unrelated to a player. When GM's create players they will enter the draft like any other player and be trade-able like any other player. This means when GM jobs change hands nothing needs to be changed in regards to players, a new member simply takes over the team. For the most part this cleans up rules regarding GM's and their own players with a few minor exceptions: 1. GM's may draft their own player if they so choose and that player may stay with the team as long as they choose. However GM's found to be manipulating their player's draft stock in order to secure him for their team will be punished. This could include, but is not limited to, the player going to FA immediately and the GM being removed from their position. An example of draft stock manipulation would be choosing to not claim any TPE until after the draft in order to appear worse than they are or threatening to hold out if they are drafted by any other team. 2. GM's may not sign their own player via Free Agency. This is simply to avoid people being drafted by another team and inevitably jumping ship to their own after 3 seasons. Neither of these limitations are new, they have always been the case with GM's however they seem necessary to keep around. They will be the only limitations though. GM's who acquire their own players can trade them freely, the players can play for whatever team they'd like, and they will no longer be excluded from the draft. These limitations do, however, offer some extra limits to the careers GM's can have with their players. For example, what if they did in fact want to spend 8 full seasons on their own team? For that we have added a minor caveat. If a GM so chooses they may "claim" their player by giving up a 1st round pick int he same draft as their player. This will block other GM's from choosing the player in the draft. If a GM does not have a first round pick in the draft their player resides they may not claim their player. In addition, claiming a player still does not link that player to the team. They may still be traded or go to FA as they normally would be allowed to do. All it affects is the draft itself. Project Player 2's Full Removal With GM's being able to be more or less free with their players the extra benefit they receive to have a "normal career", which is to say the final phases of project player 2, are no longer necessary. It was left in place to allow GM's the freedom to move around with their players like anyone else rather than being tied to their own franchise. However with now 12 teams in the league these 2nd players account for an entire team worth of extra roster spots that are being taken up by people who have other players already. In addition there has been a trend of GM's acquiring both their own players which was never the intention of keeping PP2 around. So, with the removal of GM players we will also be removing project player 2 completely. No one, moving forward, will be allowed to update two players simultaneously. Implementing These Changes Obviously these changes can't be implemented overnight. With 12 GM's currently accounting for 24 players (half of which are linked to teams) there is simply no clean way to do this quickly. For that reason all current players controlled by GM's shall be grandfathered in under the old regulations. This means nothing will change immediately but once a GM retires one of their players, they will not be allowed to create a new player until their other player retires. At that time they may take the carryover from whichever player had more TPE and create their new unlinked player. Just as an example I’ll use @Quik who’s GM player is Bailey, his older player. When Bailey retires ACL is still around so Quik can’t make another player until ACL retires, regardless of the fact that his GM player is now gone. ACL is treated as a regular player and a regular asset, to be traded or whatnot however Quik pleases with the remaining exception of FA in place if he leaves Helsinki. Upon ACL’s retirement Quik can re-create using whichever carryover amount (Bailey’s or ACL’s) is higher. This new player has the above mentioned 2 limitations but no others. He does not go directly to Helsinki but instead to the draft where he is treated as a regular prospect unless otherwise paid for and claimed via a first round pick.

I'm not denying that but my point was you said you got better so this result is weird. The fact remains that RIGHT NOW Riga also got better. This has nothing to do with who won or lost that trade, simply that Riga improved.

Not the result we want but I'll take a point when we can get one at least. With this game I'm now 3 goals off 4th place all-time and tied my point output from last season despite taking 273 shots less...

Looking at the trade head on ignores that HHH hasn't been playing well. Older and the pick mean nothing to STHS. So basically Riga got fleeced but they got a better player sim wise.

I mean Riga got better too so.....

Didn’t take long to get my first goal, promising.