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Does the league need stimulation enough that 5 players are making that big of a difference? I think no.

That significantly messes with portal updating since we’s Need to set who everyone’s second player is and build completely different limits into them and then have every updated aware of who everyone’s first and second player is to keep track and make sure nothing is being abused. All so that they can have a shittier player? You see the problem? It creates a lot of headache for not a lot of bonus. I don’t think people are realizing this enough. I get the excitement from new guys who didn’t see this last time but take it from someone who lived it: you won’t do the things you think you will. At first everything thinks they’ll just make a “for fun” build with ridiculous attributes and stuff. However they will quickly realize that the build is awful so where’s the fun in watching your player fail? I know this because it happened exactly that way last time. That’s ultimately the problem here. You can come up with as many compromises as you want but in the end we have seen it, we have lived it, and we know it’s shortcomings. It was necessary last time for temporary survival but at this point the league doesn’t need that so it’s srtificial inflation that only serves to make new members less interested. Why would you want to stick around to have shit minutes behind 2 members owned by the same person? As someone, @CowboyinAmerica I think, pointed out 3 seasons gap does nothing to a good earner. Cornerstone and Ron we’re both dominating despite being 3 seasons apart. The gap would need to be at least 6 seasons for me to even consider it and that’s really just so people can go full careers and still have someone ready to come in and take over immediately.

But can VHL PT’s count for both players in their leagues? Because if not that unfairly ways things between the leagues. The whole point of the partnership is to be even. I just don’t get what problem is trying to be fixed here. I understood it the first time even if I didn’t like it. This time we aren’t at a loss for draftees so what problem is being solved by over complicating everything.

Honestly I didn’t have time to fully read it, I will later. But assume it’s your same argument from the BOG I don’t feel like it would go over much better than last time. Since last time it nearly killed the league (with other things I’ll admit) I don’t want to risk it for very little benefit.

I was against it when it was here, I’m against it now. I’ll hear it out but as far as I’m concerned removing it was fixing a mistake.

I believe you’re Referring to the trades from Sunday. I just fixed them.

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I do sims on my lunch break so I sometimes forget to check the trades. @Banackock normally keeps a running update of moves but he’s been understandably busy. I’ll make sure they are fixed up right now and you will be able to get them in your lines for tomorrow’s sim.

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Welcome to the VHL, Mcsloy_#7! We're happy to have you. You should have received a PM with some more detailed information, but to get started quickly you will want to head over to the "How to Create a Player" topic. That topic will offer you detailed information about how to use the VHL Portal to create your player and get you started. We also highly recommend joining the VHL Discord where there is a channel dedicated to helping new members with any questions that they may have about the league or improving their player. Once your player is made VHLM General Managers will be in touch with you about joining their teams. In the meantime, please feel free to ask any questions you have here or in your create-a-player thread. We're happy to have you in the community and we hope you stick around!

Should I be afraid?

I completely forgot to check this, not gonna lie. I’ll do my best to remember it next time but maybe email it to the lines account so that I notice it right before.

This is in the sim? Where’s he supposed to be?

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As I added to the edit, I’m second in shutout total and single season so my brain must just be seeing Clegane on the totals and assuming both are the same person. Stumped by both Cleganes I suppose.

No? Greg Clegane as the GAA record. Sandro has the shutout Record. Edit: Maybe Im wrong though, maybe I’m just thinking of in 1 season? I know Jardy has that. I know the overall one isn’t updated fully for sure. It’s possible that I just know I’m second in both total and single season shutouts so I slapped the same Clegane into both firsts.

We must be almost done all our games against NY right? In any case I’ll take another 2 goals.

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I mean 6 sure but I’m just saying you had an amazing opportunity to stick with one and have a record-setting career and you still retired early. So just don’t expect people will be surprised if it happens again.

@Bushito‘s post this week, whether serious or not, has brought up an interesting discussion that I’d like to touch on today for my “old man of the VHL ranting” article: have we automated too much? As usual, a bit of historical context. Our newer members won’t know this but not long ago everything we did was done by hand and on the forum. Creating a player involved copy and pasting the entire template and then filling it out. Updating involved posting an update thread, formatting it correctly with all your links, doing the math, and then waiting a week for an updater to come confirm it and another week or more (usually only twice a season or so in the VHLM) for it to end up in the sim. On top of that all career stats, records, awards, etc were all maintained by hand with manual calculation. We operated this way for over 10 years before all of it started to change with the portal. Now we no longer have to manually do anything and things like rating updates in the sim can be done daily if we wanted to. Everything is done for us with very little manual oversight. The topic for discussion of course: has this gone too far? Has automating the process, and continuing to automate it, made the VHL lose its heart and soul? Did somehow things feel more robust when they were done by hand instead of by a few lines of code? In my opinion it goes a bit both ways. It’s true that there was a little more heart in the VHL of old, knowing people were putting piles of time and effort into things to keep the league running. On the other hand, it also lenses itself more easily to mistakes or things being missed. The concept of knowing for example that half a season of updates in the VHLM simply wouldn’t show up until around playoff time seems horrible now but that was a reality we lived with. I feel like we got used to the shortcomings in a lot of ways and just accepted them for what they were without considering that we could do better. Obviously we still have a lot of people doing a lot of tasks to keep the VHL wheels greased, we haven’t fully been taken over by our robot overlords, and I will say that’s probably a good thing. I love the automation because it makes the VHL run smoother but I’ll admit that it could one day go to far. If we hit the point where it basically becomes a clone of EA’s Be a Pro mode without any actual gameplay than what’s the point? Ultimately community is the most important thing in the VHL. So long as we can keep the community aspect though, I personally welcome automation. What are your thoughts?

This. Moon was honestly on HoF path if you had stuck with him for the long haul. Might have been able to pass Jardy for the shutout record.

I’ve been doing this for 11 years. I’ve seen a lot of people need to take momentary steps back. You aren’t the first, you won’t be the last, so don’t worry yourself over it too much. Welfare can be very helpful in times like this to keep some points flowing but if you need to step back fully for a time no one blames you.

You aren’t gonna be pleased with the most recent sim...

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How heavily are you over? I know last season they let @DollarAndADream drop a few TPE off his WJC player to get under 350 and compete since he was close.