Beketov

No love from @DollarAndADream I'm not going to go naming a bunch of people but for me the VHL has always been, and continues to be, about the community. I had an entire season real early on where I couldn't do shit all with my player so I learned to enjoy other aspects of the site. We may not always get along but the community aspect of the league is what keeps me here. I've left the SHL more times than I can count because the member base is just too damn toxic. Do they have more active members than us? Probably. But I would take 1 VHL member over 10 SHL members any day. Also, I said I wouldn't mention specific names but I do want to throw a shoutout to @Beaviss. Our retention isn't always the best so it's always great to see young blood so invested in the league from the get go.

I oddly don’t feel like playing CoD so we may have a CoD-less CoDCast but we’ll see. Either way I need questions so might you guys have them? @der meister @Phil @tfong @Banackock @gorlab @JardyB10 @evrydayimbyfuglien @Jericho @DollarAndADream @Kendrick @Devise @Smarch @punkhippie @Beaviss

You're exaggerating. That would be like 15 people. We have at least 20.

Well...on the plus side we wouldn't have a rivalry issue anymore.

It comes back to sticking with it. You can't expect to come into the league as a rookie and put up award winning numbers, that just won't happen. Stick it out a few years of being active and updating well and the success will come though.

I've never had a good rookie year with like 9 players, people will get over it haha. Honestly there's not a lot we can do to stop that. Veteran players will always be better, it's a fact of life. Short of giving rookies temporary boosts which isn't really fair there's nothing that can make them better which won't apply later in their careers to screw the next generation. Rookies will just never be superstars, that's kinda the way it's supposed to go.

I think he's talking about the fact that he's been up and down the site arguing with people the past couple of days. A lot of that has taken place in the BOG admittedly though.

To each their own, I suppose I've never (or at least very rarely) hit that point. We have some things coming in that might help re-vitalize things a bit but it won't do it for everyone so we'll see. I find the community to usually be a good driving force personally. Getting a working chat system again would actuality help quite a bit I think. You going to be around at some point this week? Perhaps I could have you on the CoDCast again and we can talk about what brings people into the league and such. Could probably do it up as a dual podcast and you could get a PT out of it as well.

That seems possible. 72 from PT's, 10 from TC and half decent predictions of 8 gets you to 90. Plus some uncapped here and there brings it up to probably 100 which would be about average for most people. Keeners can manage the extra bit from having better predictions or good Store Purchases.

As harsh as it sounds honestly what you might need is to just stick it out for a bit. Your best times seem to have come based on the members around you. Unfortunately you won't be able to spend much time with people if you keep retiring your players so early. Stick with one for awhile and make some good memories with guys on your team. That has kept me going quite a few times in the past. Specifically with Chekhov in Cologne having @Kendrick pull me brace from the brink and with Miller in Calgary with the great group of guys we had there.

Personally I have no idea, I don't think I've ever gotten that much. I was going off a figure @boubabi used earlier.

With no donations? Seems high but I guess it is possible. 150 per season would be about 400 at the mid point of season 3 and 200 pre-draft is easily doable. I'm honestly trying to recall the relevance of this though. Was it just trying to show that 1000 is doable for regular members?

It is yeah. Not only do you have the extra starting TPE from carryover (I think that caps at 75?) but you also can choose when you re-create. As I said above that makes a huge difference. Retiring at the deadline means you get an extra few weeks of TPE plus all the off-season stuff before even going into your VHLM season.

That's the big key I think. You have to get as much TPE as possible before the countdown clock of retirement kicks in. If you start in pre-season and don't get max every week I don't think it's possible. If you start at the deadline your odds are better even if you miss a few weeks of max. I don't honestly know if I ever got the full 9 with Holik but I came into the league somewhere around 300 I think.

I never had any donations with Holik (that I recall, maybe 1 early on), barely hit the cap most weeks (took welfare some) and managed 1000 TPE. It's definitely possible.

I can't speak for the other two you mention but the SHL being messy is entirely on them. I moved that board over to jcink and set everything up to be neat, organized, and functional. And then a week later they destroyed it with a pile of clusterfuckery because people apparently have some kind of beef with sub forums over there. Big part of the reason I have never gone back tbh. In any case, there are definitely way more arguments against jcink. I'm just pointing out that it can be a functional site if it's set up right, places just don't always do that. Going the full paid IP model is definitely better and offers far more growth possibilities than jcink ever can.

I honestly don't create players in other leagues because I know I would burn out too fast. Some seem interesting but I can never stick to them so I just stick it out in the VHL where I know I have interest.

Maybe the drugs messed with my brain but I recall very early seasons being only out of 4. Might have just been season 1. There was definitely a time though. There was also a time when re-creation TPE was higher so inflation was worse. My main point stands that TPE records hold much less meaning than most because we are constantly tweaking the amount of TPE people can earn.

Hey, the hashtag campaigns have always worked for me haha. You'd actually be a pretty decent BOG member I think. Plus there would be so many more tits in that forum. It's highly lacking in that regard.

I think a point is trying to be made here regarding showing emotion in your posts but either way this isn't adding nothing to the main discussion of this topic... EDIT: It has reminded me though of the other discussion from here I wanted to bring up but forgot. I have always been against the idea of x posts = y TPE. It's a good idea on the surface but just seems like it would be far too easy to get out of hand. I could easily go into the locker room and post an entire novel 1 word at a time and get thousands of posts and TPE for them but am I really doing anything for it? It just seems like giving away TPE for the sake of it which is the same problem I have with activity check type stuff.

#Bek4Blue

FTFY

Couldn't hurt. Apparently your serious posts and your shitposts have the exact same format but it's up to everyone else to figure them out. VHL needs more emjois confirmed. Can we get back to the topic at hand then?

Alright, fuck the olive branch, good to know. So glad you have such respect for other members. 10/10; great showing. Continue shitposting all you want then, just don't complain when people don't take your seriously. It's getting real hard to tell the difference sometimes.