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That is one goal filled shootout haha. Good win boys.

Any franchise that moves I deemed failed. A franchise that's succeeding doesn't move.

According to @Devise you were told in the Discord specifically that the team is not moving back. You are the GM but that does not mean you get to simply decide when the team is moving. The procedure has always been, and will always be, that the blue team must be notified and put any team moves to a vote before they are allowed to go through. We will consider any formal proposal you put forth but you aren't simply changing a VHL team on your own accord because of an internal team poll. Vasteras has come and gone twice. Honestly after the first time the move back shouldn't have been allowed. It's ridiculous and makes no sense to continue moving the team anywhere; let alone back to a city that has failed twice.

When did you do this? As far as the blue team is aware there has been no formal inquiry into moving the team and when we discussed it because you were talking about it the consensus was heavily in favour of it not happening. If you want to make a formal proposition for it we'll consider it but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

It does feel similar. I don't have the old logos on hand to say for sure.

Well Vasteras isn't coming back so not sure what you're referring to.

The CoDCast returns this week, though not sure what I'll be playing yet; we'll see if it's CoD. Either way I need some questions. @der meister @Phil @tfong @Banackock @gorlab @JardyB10 @evrydayimbyfuglien @Jericho @DollarAndADream @Kendrick @Smarch @punkhippie @Beaviss @Devise

@Gudnason has notified me that he is exercising his right to un-retire. As per the rules since it has been more than 24 hours but less than 48 Rudi Ying will receive a 2-week PT ban. @Gudnason's second player will be unaffected by this ban. It is up to Helsinki and the player to negotiate a contract.

Definitely hard to win when your franchise (get it) scorer takes 17 penalty minutes and gets kicked out halfway through the 1st. Plus Ironside put on a clinic. Not a great opening game of us but kinda flukey tbh. But yeah, @boubabi, wtf was that haha

You do not get to decide that unfortunately. The rules are pre-season retirements are set by the schedule, not by the player retiring. The schedule is very clear that Monday was the start of pre-season retirements. The schedule was posted using Eastern Time and this was posted at 12:15am EST it was therefore posted on Monday the 9th. For this reason your player will remain retired (unless you choose to revoke and suffer the punishments) but will play out the season in Helsinki. By retiring your right to hold out is revoked and you will be automatically resigned.

I wish could say I was surprised by this. Have you managed to stick around until the end of a rookie contract yet?

Initially when people are brought in for discussion it starts with just stats and awards. As the discussion goes through more statistics and analysis happen if necessary. We just don’t start immediately with that stuff because some things are obvious from the get go. For example, when O’Malley or Greg Clegane was brought in we really didn’t need more detail. It was fairly obvious just from their numbers that they were top end talent that should be in the hall. Someone like Holik, for example, will need much more analysis and discussion if it ever comes to that because of a lack of cups, individual awards, and good playoff numbers being the counter to excellent regular season numbers. So basically it just all depends on the players that are currently on the ballot. Like most things in the BOG it isn’t a cut and dry set of rules.

Never had that happen on Safari, weird. Anyway, glad I doubled it at least since this was no a great year for my picks to say the least haha

Better stats will always get in over more cups. The example he was giving was 2 players with basically even stats. At that point it goes to cup and award wins. For example: Not saying either will get in but let’s say Holik and Skye are both up for the HoF. Their stats are likely very similar (as I recall our stats were often pretty close) but Skye has a cup so he’d likely get the nod first. If Holik’s stats were way better though he could realistically get in ahead of Skye without that cup because his stats are more deserving. Does that make more sense?

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Then you can stop arguing for Frank now. We have received your feedback that playoffs should potentially be considered for future seasons but they weren't for this season and you admit you have no argument based on regular season. So given the criteria of the season the best GM won. His stats were enough, that's what it came down to. The discussion just helps to showcase them sometimes. The BOG definitely does not always agree as much as the lopsided votes may imply though.

@ADV will be handling this. Thank you to the applicants.

Did I not just specifically ask if you had an argument that didn’t involve the playoffs? The Cup means nothing in this discussion. I’m sorry if you disagree with that but this season that cup does not have any value on top GM. Do you have an argument that doesn’t involve it or not? Oh my god you could not even remotely be more wrong on that. It was far more easily described as @boubabi argues his case with everyone while eveyrone else brings up other options. It was anything but a circle jerk.

I get that’s your opinion and have said countless times and it may be looked at, you can stop sounding like a broken record. The point is that this season (like every other season before) playoffs were not considered. Believing they should is fine but that still doesn’t make it a valid argument for this season when they weren’t. If you have some kind of valid argument for Frank over Hedgehog without taking the playoffs into consideration bring it up because so far you have not. And please stop with the 0 votes thing. As several of us have already pointed out, that means nothing. Awards are not voted on by ranking, it is simply a vote on who deserves it the most. Cornerstone got 8/9 of the MVP votes and had a 5-6 page discussion on it. Does that sound like the other candidates weren’t considered at all? Yes, 0 votes could mean he was never considered but it just as easily can mean (and does in this case based off the discussion) that everyone thought that candidate was 2nd best.

How many times do I have to say it before you understand. There are no “current rules” aside from the fact that it’s Regular Season only. There are no set criteria or what makes a GM better than any other and nothing is guaranteed to weigh more heavily. You seem to be under the assumption that we vote for specific traits every single season with consistency and we simply don’t do that. It’s Top Executive, not “made the best moves.” We don’t automatically favour moves or favour the draft or favour free agency or whatever you wish to bring up. We simply look at the 10 GM’s and decide that given the scope of the league in that particular season who did the best with what they had. In this particular season the best was taking a pile of draft picks and turning them into an amazing group of players that took a team from 8th to 1st. Next season if no one does that different criteria will judge the winner. Or even if someone does do that but someone else does something better with their team then the GM not making moves could still win. We didn’t just decide 56 seasons ago that “Top GM = Best trades”; it is a constantly evolving metric based on the season. What wins one season may not win the next and 0 votes does not mean no one thought Frank was deserving. Please try to understand these concepts.