Kesler 1,514 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 see ya. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 claims. Kesler 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted July 29, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted July 29, 2015 --- Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 shouldn't we wait 24h ? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted July 29, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted July 29, 2015 No. After I used my priority on Strauss, Riga has the next highest priority based on reverse standings. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 "Waiver Priority is based on the reverse order of the standings at the time that a player is put on waivers. By claiming a player on waivers, the team does not go to last in priority, either, but stays at the position they are in based on the reverse order of standings." from the rule book. But, the waiver rule inside the rule book isn't respected (imo) so which one is the real one ? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted July 29, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted July 29, 2015 You're right, I suppose 24 hours to see if Helsinki claims is in order. Nothing from the rulebook or the thread seem to contradict each other so not sure what you mean. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) My point being, with the cap system in place (60% at the deadline etc) being able to send players for free at any time is a major flaw in the system. "Waivers are a tool through which a team can send a player to the minors. A player who has to go through waivers is offered up to all other teams before he can be placed in the minors." - NHL Rule The second phrase could make us think that, okay, we are fine, the player is offered to every team and if he is claimed, the team takes full salary, right. But the problem is, here in the VHL, we have a system where players can't stay in the VHLM if they are over 175 TPE (25 banked). Therefore, those players aren't eligible to be sent down (Wolfgang, Holmes etc) Since the NHL doesn't have such rule that limits players to be sent in the minor system, their rule is valid. BUT, here, it's not the same. So if GM wants to release a player, he would need to go through the release system which lead him to keep 50% of the player salary through the rest of his contract. My point probably won't be hear, but that is one of the major flaw of the system which encourage teams to tank and offers an easy way to dump cap to the worst team of the league (because they have the priority every time, which is also bad) Edited July 30, 2015 by boubabi JardyB10 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 My point being, with the cap system in place (60% at the deadline etc) being able to send players for free at any time is a major flaw in the system. "Waivers are a tool through which a team can send a player to the minors. A player who has to go through waivers is offered up to all other teams before he can be placed in the minors." - NHL Rule The second phrase could make us think that, okay, we are fine, the player is offered to every team and if he is claimed, the team takes full salary, right. But the problem is, here in the VHL, we have a system where players can't stay in the VHLM if they are over 175 TPE (25 banked). Therefore, those players aren't eligible to be sent down (Wolfgang, Holmes etc) Since the NHL doesn't have such rule that limits players to be sent in the minor system, their rule is valid. BUT, here, it's not the same. So if GM wants to release a player, he would need to go through the release system which lead him to keep 50% of the player salary through the rest of his contract. My point probably won't be hear, but that is one of the major flaw of the system which encourage teams to tank and offers an easy way to dump cap to the worst team of the league (because they have the priority every time, which is also bad) If he clears FA I will just do what the Kings did about Richards. Exterminate that bitch. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 I made the same argument boubabi, but there are separate waiver rules in the waiver area. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) and the rule (releasing a player) inside the book rule is contradictory with the rule inside victor's post. contradictory is probably not the word I should use here, but they (the rules) aren't the same Edited July 30, 2015 by boubabi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasty 566 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 On how Brovy treats his players: scoop and Sixersfan594 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 well, that's a perfect throw at least Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 SWIIIIIIISH. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 So Helsinki isn't going to claim and Brandon Holmes goes to Riga??? Quit playin games wit me Draper, ur pissin me clean off. Kesler 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,946 Posted July 30, 2015 Admin Share Posted July 30, 2015 I am fairly certain if an NHL team claims someone off waivers they take on their full cap hit. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 (edited) And I explained why it wasn't valid More importantly in a system where you can trade salary Edited July 30, 2015 by boubabi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-250829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted August 1, 2015 Share Posted August 1, 2015 property Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/22554-brandon-holmes/#findComment-251565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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