.sniffuM 1,741 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I was thinking about this the other day. With players getting 30 free TPE on creation nowadays I'd say that the 75 carryover cap is a little low given that's not on top of that 30 free TPE. I'm not saying bump it up to 105, but maybe like 90 or so? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evans 305 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 77 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,902 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Why Mubbins Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,856 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 81.3 would be best. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I always thought our numbers were silly anyways. 30 Free TPE and 75 carryover cap? Why the hell can't we learn to choose good staple like numbers. Considering the attribute earning cap in the VHLM, I say it should be 50 free TPE and 100 carryover cap. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Okay, whats your reasoning beyond that though? The 30 TPE is in place to give new people a less-than-discouraging opening where they don't feel like they are having to break down walls to catch up. Increasing carryover just makes that gap even larger and discourages them some more. I couldn't disagree with you because I'd likely be someone who gets a ton more carryover, but thats not going to help the new members either. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,047 Posted July 19, 2016 Admin Share Posted July 19, 2016 ain't broke brah Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Kendrick said: Okay, whats your reasoning beyond that though? The 30 TPE is in place to give new people a less-than-discouraging opening where they don't feel like they are having to break down walls to catch up. Increasing carryover just makes that gap even larger and discourages them some more. I couldn't disagree with you because I'd likely be someone who gets a ton more carryover, but thats not going to help the new members either. That is why I think both should be bumped personally. I mean why 30 TPE free at start? What does that number represent? Is say 50 too high for new members? I doubt it. Same goes with the carry over. Why 75? I feel like these numbers were conceived when the league and how we earned TPE was much different. Imagine how many more competitive/useful VHLM players there would be, even if they go inactive, if they got 50 free TPE to start versus 30. It's not a huge difference to make it unfair, but still enough you'd probably see some use out of said players. Making new members valuable is always a good thing. Combine that with some of the very smart VHLM suggestions currently going on in the BoG regarding waivers/new players, and I think you could see an uptake in the value of someone who creates a new player from scratch. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.sniffuM 1,741 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't think increasing the carryover cap would be too killer. After all: 1: Players very rarely get to 75 carryover as it is. 2: The difference used to be 0 (new player) to 75 (max carryover). That feels like too much, I agree. But 30 to 75 feels a little too low, that's why I suggested 90 as a happy middle. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,923 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 31 minutes ago, Mr. Power said: I always thought our numbers were silly anyways. 30 Free TPE and 75 carryover cap? Why the hell can't we learn to choose good staple like numbers. Considering the attribute earning cap in the VHLM, I say it should be 50 free TPE and 100 carryover cap. Thing is with these numbers, you aren't going to see many people reach the 50 TPE threshold in that case. Assuming an 8 season career and current carryover percentages, you'd need 715 TPE to beat the threshold. That's a little high for me. Given that 400 TPE is the threshold for Welfare, that seems like a reasonable number to beat... which consequently, is just about 30 carryover (400 x 7% = 28). And speaking generally, the 75 TPE threshold, you need 1085 TPE to beat that, so what we're discussing here affects probably 5% of high-earning members that are probably recreating no matter what anyway. Just something to keep in mind (don't really care myself, I'm more in line with Victor's "if it ain't broke" mantra) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,197 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 We were gonna change it but then you stole the cap Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted July 19, 2016 Senior Admin Share Posted July 19, 2016 38 minutes ago, Mr. Power said: I mean why 30 TPE free at start? What does that number represent? New members used to start at 0 TPE but would get their first 3 PT's doubled and 10 TPE for VHLM Training Camp. 18 Uncapped from the double PT's + 10 TPE from VHLM TC = 28, rounded to 30 for the heck of it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/32179-increase-carryover-cap-a-little-bit/#findComment-360585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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