GM 81: Stockholm vs. Helsinki

[Jericho 917]

3 hours ago, BMax said:

 

Name one country to test us and get away with it.

 

I don't think you understand what geographically means.

 

Off the top of my head, let's see... Vietnam. I dunno what they teach in your history classes since you guys were the bad guys in that war, but you didn't win that one.

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

11 minutes ago, Jericho said:

 

I don't think you understand what geographically means.

 

Off the top of my head, let's see... Vietnam. I dunno what they teach in your history classes since you guys were the bad guys in that war, but you didn't win that one.

 

Actually, we weren't the bad guys. Slick try though and how are they faring now lol

[Jericho 917]

Just now, BMax said:

 

Actually, we weren't the bad guys. Slick try though and how are they faring now lol

 

You were though, they teach it without bias in the rest of the world. You interfered in another country's civil war. I'm sure you'd have been psyched if something similar had happened a few decades before in the US.

 

Also your original question was to name a country that could "test you and get away with it". Last time I checked in the war of Vietnam vs the rest of Vietnam plus USA, Vietnam beat you. Or is that not how they teach it in your country?

[evrydayimbyfuglien 600]

18 minutes ago, Jericho said:

 

You were though, they teach it without bias in the rest of the world. You interfered in another country's civil war. I'm sure you'd have been psyched if something similar had happened a few decades before in the US.

 

Also your original question was to name a country that could "test you and get away with it". Last time I checked in the war of Vietnam vs the rest of Vietnam plus USA, Vietnam beat you. Or is that not how they teach it in your country?

Our history is so skewed in school.  And while every other country feels it's important to learn about the US, or so it seems, we learn next to nothing about any country but our own. 

[Devise 4,475]

1 hour ago, evrydayimbyfuglien said:

Our history is so skewed in school.  And while every other country feels it's important to learn about the US, or so it seems, we learn next to nothing about any country but our own. 

 

Bingo bango bongo. I didn't want to get involved in this thread since it's rather pointless but there certainly is a superiority issue with a lot of Americans. That isn't to imply that I think there is anything wrong with being patriotic, though I will admit I don't generally understand it. However being patriotic and using it as leverage to say your superior than everyone else is rather silly. Especially when history says otherwise. 

 

The amount of Americans who think the world revolves around that country and always has is rather silly. It's easy to forget that Canada and America are the equivalent of teenagers when it comes to countries. So many people from both counties sit here and talk about things like fascism and socialism as if they have any concept of what they mean. Both use the hyperbole meanwhile the rest of the world, you know countries that have been standing for THOUSANDS of years? Yeah they actually lived through real socialism, and real fascism. They lived through a lot more than we ever have. 

 

I mean jesus most of Europe not that long ago had real Monarchies, you know Kings and Queens running shit? America or Canada have pretty much always had some form of democracy because of how young we are. Also, remember that European settlers settled North America. So your not really American anyway. Unless your native we all go from some fucking part of Europe when you go down that whole. So the "anti immigrant" stuff is funny because there isn't actually a such thing as a "real" American.  

Edited February 11, 2017 by Mr. Power

[Bushito 1,945]

6 hours ago, BMax said:

 

Name one country to test us and get away with it.

You went to war with Canada and lost. Judging from your statements you have continued losing ever since

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

12 minutes ago, Scooter said:

You went to war with Canada and lost. Judging from your statements you have continued losing ever since

 

Canada ain't shit and never will be shit.

[TheLastOlympian07 2,388]

6 minutes ago, Da Trifecta said:

 

Canada ain't shit and never will be shit.

your trolling is getting worse. its like you arent even trying

[Devise 4,475]

9 minutes ago, TheLastOlympian07 said:

your trolling is getting worse. its like you arent even trying

 

That what I said to Jericho privately haha.  There is some of the Pro Trump movement that is pretty much ignorance for ignorance sake. People who felt smothered it seems like due to the fact that the extreme left kept calling them uneducated, unfit to vote, racist, etc. So now they get involved and choose to be willfully ignorant because they can. It's an exercise in free speech.

 

My issue is more so that the battle between these people is as petty as it gets and misses the entire point. The people who aren't extreme shitbags don't attack people for who they vote for or for other random petty political issues, approach the situation like democratic adults and you know have conversations about the difference of view points etc. Because as it stands in a lot of North American politics there are "leaders" on all sides, left right center whatever, that are there to manipulate the vote. The American election is so evident of that. It's not even a battle anymore. It's which bullshit corporate puppet do you want to manipulate a social issue that matters to you enough to pretend democracy exists. Nobody in that country should of accepted the two candidates that were selected, and should of called bullshit on that entire election. 

 

And it's no different in Canada. We have the Liberals who took advantage of people who have certain issues, such as the legalization of marijuana and electoral reform. And now they go back on their electoral reform policies. The amount of bullshit corrupt politicians who care only about getting elected, and proceed to even if they do some good things increase their own salaries, use up taxpayer dollars in bullshit ways is infinite. Anyway, Trifecta's ignorance as irrelevant as it is is allowed. Feel free to be as pro Trump and ignorant as you want Trifecta, it really doesn't make a lick of a difference. Nor does the people you claim to be battling either the so called SJW and Libtards. You both make up the smallest of minorities in this world, and the fact that election results continue to swing on a pendulum from one extreme to the next proves that. Logical regular ass people continue to get caught up in the bullshit of party politics because of how the system is set up. 

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

37 minutes ago, TheLastOlympian07 said:

your trolling is getting worse. its like you arent even trying

 

I'm sorry you are who? Also @Mr. Power this whole thread has literally been me just trying to create a nice discussion because I was bored

[JardyB10 4,865]

39 minutes ago, Mr. Power said:

Logical regular ass people continue to get caught up in the bullshit of party politics because of how the system is set up. 

Me and my buddies basically had this exact conversation last night, haha.

[sterling 1,997]

4 hours ago, Mr. Power said:

 

Bingo bango bongo. I didn't want to get involved in this thread since it's rather pointless but there certainly is a superiority issue with a lot of Americans. That isn't to imply that I think there is anything wrong with being patriotic, though I will admit I don't generally understand it. However being patriotic and using it as leverage to say your superior than everyone else is rather silly. Especially when history says otherwise. 

 

The amount of Americans who think the world revolves around that country and always has is rather silly. It's easy to forget that Canada and America are the equivalent of teenagers when it comes to countries. So many people from both counties sit here and talk about things like fascism and socialism as if they have any concept of what they mean. Both use the hyperbole meanwhile the rest of the world, you know countries that have been standing for THOUSANDS of years? Yeah they actually lived through real socialism, and real fascism. They lived through a lot more than we ever have. 

 

I mean jesus most of Europe not that long ago had real Monarchies, you know Kings and Queens running shit? America or Canada have pretty much always had some form of democracy because of how young we are. Also, remember that European settlers settled North America. So your not really American anyway. Unless your native we all go from some fucking part of Europe when you go down that whole. So the "anti immigrant" stuff is funny because there isn't actually a such thing as a "real" American.  

Technically The Queen is still Canada's head of state and up until 1982, had a great deal of power that was hardly ever exercised. Historically and culturally, Canada and the USA are very different.

[Devise 4,475]

Just now, sterling said:

Technically The Queen is still Canada's head of state and up until 1982, had a great deal of power that was hardly ever exercised. Historically and culturally, Canada and the USA are very different.

 

That is a fair point. Both Countries as they are today were still built by the settlers from the East. Obviously the narratives are different mostly because the turmoil in Canada was more between a mix of the French, English and Natives. Where as America eventually completely rebelled against the British crown to form their own thing, we were eventually just given our own independence to a degree. 

 

But I still would say that even with us having the Queen as Head of State we didn't really see much compared to Europe in terms of the actual exercising of power by various monarchies. Those other countries your France and UK etc lived through generation and generation of systems that all we can do is read about in books. I guess I'm mostly just speaking against this notion that because of the current cultural impact of western civilization that it somehow qualifies the ideals of modern western society to be more important than any other. One of the fundamental points to studying history is to learn from it, and cultures and countries that have eons more history than we do, especially relevant political history that is the literal battle of different societal ideals probably have a bit more insight into such subjects than we do. 

[FacePuncher 1,343]

Oooh, trash talk thread?

 

@JardyB10 is stoopid

[FacePuncher 1,343]

Who tf brought politics into this bullshit? This is why I hate the internet

[Devise 4,475]

4 minutes ago, The Bread Man said:

Who tf brought politics into this bullshit? This is why I hate the internet

 

Blame @Da Trifecta and @Jericho for that.  But hey it got people reading and responding in a game thread. Hooray?! Next time these two teams face we need to bring up the talk again only this time we'll discuss favorite foods, until of course someone turns it into a conversations about politics....

 

 

Edited February 12, 2017 by Devise

[Da Trifecta 1,896]

Just now, Devise said:

 

Blame @Da Trifecta and @Jericho for that.  But hey it got people reading and responding in a game thread. Hooray?! Next time these two teams face we need to bring up the talk again only this time we'll discuss favorite foods, until of course someone turns it into a conversations about politics....

 

 

 

Holy shit, it's Devise again. Now am I really anticipating your long ass posts.

[FacePuncher 1,343]

1 minute ago, Devise said:

 

Blame @Da Trifecta and @Jericho for that.  But hey it got people reading and responding in a game thread. Hooray?! Next time these two teams face we need to bring up the talk again only this time we'll discuss favorite foods, until of course someone turns it into a conversations about politics....

 

 

Got me to stop reading tbh.

[Devise 4,475]

4 minutes ago, The Bread Man said:

Got me to stop reading tbh.

 

Good, maybe it means I'll have to deal with you less around the board because you will finally stop giving a shit about what I post.  

[Smarch 3,150]

If you are really dumb enough to argue politics then go to the thunderdome you stupid fucks 

[Higgins 3,618]

 

[FacePuncher 1,343]

23 minutes ago, Devise said:

 

Good, maybe it means I'll have to deal with you less around the board because you will finally stop giving a shit about what I post.  

[TheLastOlympian07 2,388]

@Devise bring back Mr.Power

[TheLastOlympian07 2,388]

He will not @Devise us

[sterling 1,997]

4 hours ago, Devise said:

 

That is a fair point. Both Countries as they are today were still built by the settlers from the East. Obviously the narratives are different mostly because the turmoil in Canada was more between a mix of the French, English and Natives. Where as America eventually completely rebelled against the British crown to form their own thing, we were eventually just given our own independence to a degree. 

 

But I still would say that even with us having the Queen as Head of State we didn't really see much compared to Europe in terms of the actual exercising of power by various monarchies. Those other countries your France and UK etc lived through generation and generation of systems that all we can do is read about in books. I guess I'm mostly just speaking against this notion that because of the current cultural impact of western civilization that it somehow qualifies the ideals of modern western society to be more important than any other. One of the fundamental points to studying history is to learn from it, and cultures and countries that have eons more history than we do, especially relevant political history that is the literal battle of different societal ideals probably have a bit more insight into such subjects than we do. 

You'd better study NA history from 1600-1900 then boy