Motivation

[eaglesfan036 4,605]

Motivation

 

 

Over the past year or so, @Fire Hakstol has been constantly asking me why I don't update my player. The truth was, I had no motivation to do so. I know doing welfare and updating takes maybe 20 minutes a week, but if I don't care to check the game threads to see how my player or team is doing, what is the point? I haven't followed the VHL much at all over the past 10 seasons, and have no idea who has been good over the past few seasons, other than knowing that Calgary finally broke its cup drought. The league went through a rough patch over the past 2 years, with every member of blue team taking turns disappearing for 3 months, the removal of the stupid 2 player system, and the VHL shifting from 10 to 8 teams, in a clear sign of a downward slope. The league was so inactive at one point that I held on for seasons as Calgary's GM openly looking to step down, only to be temporarily replaced by Kesler before taking reigns of the team again after being pissed at Kesler's stupid trades that crippled the franchise. On top of that, I felt as though there was nothing exciting going on in the league, and figured why should I bother to continue putting effort into a dying fake hockey league.

 

I am happy to see that the VHL is once again on the upswing, thanks to some great moves made by the league's leadership. I haven't been following things too closely and I am probably missing a lot of important contributors. @Will and anyone else who helped have done an outstanding job modernizing the VHL with the league portal, as updates are so much less of a pain than before, and doing everything else like signing contracts and trades on the portal helps expedite all league moves and puts less of a burden on the commissioners. Additionally, the league desperately needed some new members to step up with many of the old guard hanging on for years, and @Beaviss has gotten the job done with some outstanding recruitment drives on reddit along with being a great VHLM commish, so hats off to him as well. Like I said, I am probably missing many other key contributors, but I am happy to see the league has a ton of active new members, with drafts being historically deep and changing the entire GM game from how it was for me 20 to 30 seasons ago. There is once again competition and excitement to be a VHLM or VHL GM, rather than a lack of candidates like before, which is great to see. 

 

I used to be that guy, as in someone who was super active and helped the VHL grow. I was a very active VHLM commish for 2 years and implemented a lot of new changes to help league activity. I was also one of the most active VHLM and VHL GMs for a number of years, creating some really fun teams to play on in Yukon and Calgary. I also was a member of the Board of Governors, and did lots of little things to help the league grow, like creating the new member guide, and organizing ads for the VHL on reddit, twitter, and elsewhere. I hope I get the motivation back to turn into that guy again, because it was a lot of fun, and I hope I was a helpful cog in the league's growth. 

 

P.S. @diamond_ace was the only @VHLM GM to give me a contract offer, so I now have motivation to make the rest of you pay come playoff time. 

 

 

Edited November 21, 2018 by eaglesfan036

[Thranduil 293]

@eaglesfan036Can't speak for the others but for us there was no point in offering you since the season is almost over and you are draft eligible for the next VHLM draft plus Oslo is rebuilding this year.

[ShawnGlade 1,010]

49 minutes ago, eaglesfan036 said:

 

P.S. @diamond_ace was the only @VHLM GM to give me a contract offer, so I now have motivation to make the rest of you pay come playoff time. 

 

 

You did not just do me like that

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

Did you update your player yet?

[Quik 4,113]

7 hours ago, Thranduil said:

@eaglesfan036Can't speak for the others but for us there was no point in offering you since the season is almost over and you are draft eligible for the next VHLM draft plus Oslo is rebuilding this year.

I mean, the point of the VHLM is to get new players onto teams and learning the league (if they are first generation players). Obviously, Gow's been around before, but you guys should still be offering new players an option for playing time to close out the season.

[eaglesfan036 4,605]

9 hours ago, ShawnGlade said:

You did not just do me like that

With my current player. 

[ShawnGlade 1,010]

1 hour ago, eaglesfan036 said:

With my current player. 

my offer was legit, i wouldve given you some time

[Thranduil 293]

4 hours ago, Quik said:

I mean, the point of the VHLM is to get new players onto teams and learning the league (if they are first generation players). Obviously, Gow's been around before, but you guys should still be offering new players an option for playing time to close out the season.

We don't have much to offer in Oslo this season. Won't make playoffs. Anyone we are interested in we'll just pick up in the draft. All about next season for us.

[Tagger 2,722]

23 minutes ago, Thranduil said:

We don't have much to offer in Oslo this season. Won't make playoffs. Anyone we are interested in we'll just pick up in the draft. All about next season for us.

The point that @Quik is making though it that your team's current status is irrelevant, players should still be receiving offers from all teams to the point where they can no longer offer for any more or there is absolutely no playing time on offer to them. The VHLM first and foremost is about the player experience and a player will get significantly more enjoyment out of being signed to a team who won't make the playoffs than not being signed at all. If a player is much more likely to sign for another team based off of the fact that the other one is likely to be better, that's fine, but that's no reason to stop bidding yourself, especially should there be moments where active players don't receive any other offers.

Edited November 21, 2018 by Tagger

[Enorama 2,039]

7 minutes ago, Tagger said:

The point that @Quik is making though it that your team's current status is irrelevant, players should still be receiving offers from all teams to the point where they can no longer offer for any more or there is absolutely no playing time on offer to them. The VHLM first and foremost is about the player experience and a player will get significantly more enjoyment out of being signed to a team who won't make the playoffs than not being signed at all. If a player is much more likely to sign for another team based off of the fact that the other one is likely to be better, that's fine, but that's no reason to stop bidding yourself, especially should there be moments where active players don't receive any other offers.

 

If you're saying what I think you're saying, I agree. Leave it up to the players. GMs should be offering on nearly every incoming FA (I think positional need, or lack thereof, should be the only reason not to offer, really).

[Quik 4,113]

3 minutes ago, Enorama said:

 

If you're saying what I think you're saying, I agree. Leave it up to the players. GMs should be offering on nearly every incoming FA (I think positional need, or lack thereof, should be the only reason not to offer, really).

 

Yeah, the only time a VHLM team should not be in on a player is if they cannot offer them a roster spot. Even if it's only a 4th line role, there's no reason to take the decision out of their hands. That's how you lose potential members. Hell, just having 6 teams offering a contract to a player might be enough to hook them and gain a new member.

[Thranduil 293]

54 minutes ago, Tagger said:

The point that @Quik is making though it that your team's current status is irrelevant, players should still be receiving offers from all teams to the point where they can no longer offer for any more or there is absolutely no playing time on offer to them. The VHLM first and foremost is about the player experience and a player will get significantly more enjoyment out of being signed to a team who won't make the playoffs than not being signed at all. If a player is much more likely to sign for another team based off of the fact that the other one is likely to be better, that's fine, but that's no reason to stop bidding yourself, especially should there be moments where active players don't receive any other offers. 

 

39 minutes ago, Quik said:

 

Yeah, the only time a VHLM team should not be in on a player is if they cannot offer them a roster spot. Even if it's only a 4th line role, there's no reason to take the decision out of their hands. That's how you lose potential members. Hell, just having 6 teams offering a contract to a player might be enough to hook them and gain a new member.

 

 

46 minutes ago, Enorama said:

 

If you're saying what I think you're saying, I agree. Leave it up to the players. GMs should be offering on nearly every incoming FA (I think positional need, or lack thereof, should be the only reason not to offer, really).

I understand. I just figured that not many people would want to sign with an awful team, and kind of gave up since no one was but I suppose everyone should offer anyways to give them the choice. Just in case. Its just tough writing offers again and again with no gain and most of the time they don't even respond. 

[eaglesfan036 4,605]

7 hours ago, ShawnGlade said:

my offer was legit, i wouldve given you some time

I never received an offer from you???

[ShawnGlade 1,010]

54 minutes ago, eaglesfan036 said:

I never received an offer from you???

was a verbal offer, never got a chance to do it officially

[eaglesfan036 4,605]

1 hour ago, ShawnGlade said:

was a verbal offer, never got a chance to do it officially

Oh I must have missed it

[ShawnGlade 1,010]

@eaglesfan036

[eaglesfan036 4,605]

@ShawnGlade i thought that was a joke lol

[diamond_ace 3,112]

3 hours ago, eaglesfan036 said:

@ShawnGlade i thought that was a joke lol

Teams are genuinely deep enough now that some of them have to offer 3rd line, or even 4th in rare cases (I was offering 4th to people last season, for example, although at the same time I also told them it probably wasn't the wisest choice).

[BOOM 8,809]

If I had my expansion team, I would have offered you a spot! 

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

10 hours ago, ShawnGlade said:

was a verbal offer, never got a chance to do it officially

 

I actually thought that was a joke too...traditional 3rd line centers are typically seen as "gritty" players.

Edited November 22, 2018 by Fire Hakstol