Admin Victor 10,940 Posted May 26, 2020 Admin Share Posted May 26, 2020 In S70 there were a few trades made with long-term repercussions because of the picks involved. Trades across 3 draft years are always interesting when all the pieces come together so let's see what happened. @Peace @Beaviss Not a great start to the Toronto rebuild in hindsight. Vancouver clearly didn't want to give up a first straight up for 1 season of Tzuyu so it made sense to give them a 2nd to balance things out but due to the unfortunate inactivity of Graves, that 2nd now looks like the best piece moved in the trade. Either way, the Wolves make out like bandits. @ShawnGlade @Beaviss The thing that gets me about this one is that two seasons prior when Davos needed to make a cap dump, Vancouver got them to pay a 1st. A 1st that to get back, Davos had to give up an even higher 1st later (Jeff Downey). Yet when the Wolves were dumping Philliefan, they pretty much got fair value. None of the Dynamo's pieces are still with the team, Philliefan becoming a pick used on Jared Wills while the leFlamant pick was swapped for Derek Eriksson. The Wolves got a roster player and a very promising prospect now in Su. @ShawnGlade (but @GustavMattias was fine with it coming in?) @Peace Finally, the most fascinating one of them all. I think this was Shawn's last trade for Davos and I was arguing it should have been voided by the blue team as it made no sense for the Dynamo to give up their new S70 core for futures. I still stand by that tbh looking at it now. With the Gino pick traded down and then shipped alongside Calia to Moscow for even more futures, the Dynamo still have nothing tangible on their roster to show for this one. Surely now that they're buying players and attracting free agents, Magnum, McDagg, and especially Hextall in net would have been beneficial? eaglesfan036, mediocrepony, Da_Berr and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Fluff me more @Victor Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Admin Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, Beaviss said: Fluff me more @Victor fleecing Shawn is the only thing you're good at ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, Victor said: fleecing Shawn is the only thing you're good at That's just the ones you see atm. Lots more hiding in the logs of time. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Admin Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Beaviss said: That's just the ones you see atm. Lots more hiding in the logs of time. To S61 RIG 1st (D Samuel Gate) To S61 QUE 1st (C Podrick Cast) S61 NYA 2nd (LW Jesper Stromberg) Quebec City Meute GM: Keaton Louth Riga Reign GM: Benjamin Zeptenbergs good one eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Victor said: To S61 RIG 1st (D Samuel Gate) To S61 QUE 1st (C Podrick Cast) S61 NYA 2nd (LW Jesper Stromberg) Quebec City Meute GM: Keaton Louth Riga Reign GM: Benjamin Zeptenbergs good one Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace 1,532 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 So Victor wanted the DAV - TOR trade reversed, while a good chunk of people thought Davos won the trade by quite a bit. ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Admin Share Posted May 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Peace said: So Victor wanted the DAV - TOR trade reversed, while a good chunk of people thought Davos won the trade by quite a bit. A good chunk of people is stupid. mediocrepony 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enorama 2,038 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Peace said: So Victor wanted the DAV - TOR trade reversed, while a good chunk of people thought Davos won the trade by quite a bit. 13 minutes ago, Victor said: A good chunk of people is stupid. Just more proof that Vic and I are the only two sane people on the site. Victor 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Admin Share Posted May 26, 2020 42 minutes ago, Enorama said: Just more proof that Vic and I are the only two sane people on the site. the Late-Stage Capitalism Hockey League will happen yet! Devise 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Yikes poor Shawn - those are some awful trades though back in my day the guy everyone wanted to trade with was kesler or jala ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted May 26, 2020 Author Admin Share Posted May 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, ContinentalCup036 said: back in my day the guy everyone wanted to trade with was kesler or jala especially @boubabi eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 ok, fuck off Devise 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustav 6,407 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 5 hours ago, Victor said: (but @GustavMattias was fine with it coming in?) For me it was more of a "what's done is done" mentality. I was asked if I wanted it voided and decided that I didn't really care enough or know enough about what had happened to Davos before I took over. Probably should have taken a close look at everything and made an informed decision one way or another but I was new and inexperienced and didn't want to be that guy to come in and tell Peace "yeah, you know what, never mind about that." I do remember thinking Toronto won the deal when I first saw it and having someone explain to me that Davos got a lot out of it too; I don't know why the lesson about "lotto picks are super important" didn't stick with me when I traded that S71 TOR 1st away... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Victor said: especially @boubabi Wesley Matthews vs 4 1st round picks Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-747355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediocrepony 1,216 Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 5/26/2020 at 3:26 PM, Victor said: A good chunk of people is stupid. so true On 5/26/2020 at 3:40 PM, Enorama said: Just more proof that Vic and I are the only two sane people on the site. HEY!!! On 5/26/2020 at 3:08 PM, Beaviss said: . Lots more hiding in the logs of time. wtf are the logs of time Victor 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/83121-a-trio-of-important-trades-from-3-seasons-ago/#findComment-748032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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