Town of Salem #5

[Spartan 4,410]

3 hours ago, Ricer13 said:

I was controlled as well

yeah, ricer and DA claim to be controlled which means there's a problem here....

[eaglesfan036 4,603]

2 minutes ago, Spartan said:

yeah, ricer and DA claim to be controlled which means there's a problem here....

unless there is both a witch and a coven leader then it makes sense

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Just now, ContinentalCup036 said:

unless there is both a witch and a coven leader then it makes sense

My message from Gus specifically stated witched, not just controlled - Ricer could have been done by the coven leader though?

[Spartan 4,410]

Just now, ContinentalCup036 said:

unless there is both a witch and a coven leader then it makes sense

I don't think that's possible. Every role in the Coven is Coven Evil and is unique. Witch is not a role in Coven Evil

 

See: https://town-of-salem.fandom.com/wiki/Coven_Evil

[Spartan 4,410]

1 minute ago, diamond_ace said:

My message from Gus specifically stated witched, not just controlled - Ricer could have been done by the coven leader though?

Alright, here's my issue with this. If @GustavMattias is using the proper messages that would be used in game, you would have been told you were controlled, not witched. If Gus did use "witched," then maybe there's a different action that occurred that isn't quite clear at the moment. Just for the sake of clarity Gus, can you confirm if a CL's visit would be described as "witched" or "controlled?" I don't even know if this can be confirmed, but both Ricer and DA have jumped to the top of my list to lynch right now unless myself or someone else can do some more research to figure out exactly what the messages and actions mean.

[diamond_ace 3,112]

2 minutes ago, Spartan said:

Alright, here's my issue with this. If @GustavMattias is using the proper messages that would be used in game, you would have been told you were controlled, not witched. If Gus did use "witched," then maybe there's a different action that occurred that isn't quite clear at the moment. Just for the sake of clarity Gus, can you confirm if a CL's visit would be described as "witched" or "controlled?" I don't even know if this can be confirmed, but both Ricer and DA have jumped to the top of my list to lynch right now unless myself or someone else can do some more research to figure out exactly what the messages and actions mean.

GustavMattias  2,213

Replied: 4 hours ago

You were controlled by a Witch last night.

 

You could not find any evidence of wrongdoing. Your target seems innocent.

[diamond_ace 3,112]

ffs it said witch

[Spartan 4,410]

Thanks for clearing that up, the verb used was important. Since that's the case:

 

Vote Ricer

[eaglesfan036 4,603]

Witches can exist as neutrals doesnt mean they are coven

[Spartan 4,410]

Just now, ContinentalCup036 said:

Witches can exist as neutrals doesnt mean they are coven

From ToS Wiki: "Note: The Witch is not playable in the Coven DLC game modes, as the Coven Leader performs the same function."

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Just now, Spartan said:

Thanks for clearing that up, the verb used was important. Since that's the case:

 

Vote Ricer

"witched" is the verb used in the tos videos on youtube to describe the exact same action - you already know that's the only place I know this game from, and I was told there would be nice people in this version

[eaglesfan036 4,603]

Unvote nyko

 

Vote Ricer

[Spartan 4,410]

Just now, diamond_ace said:

"witched" is the verb used in the tos videos on youtube to describe the exact same action - you already know that's the only place I know this game from, and I was told there would be nice people in this version

Lol sorry bud, just needed to be able to differentiate the contradicting claims  

 

Now that it's a little clearer, one of the two is lying. Vote up Ricer, and if he's actually bg, we jail and execute DA ( sorry   ). After that, I have another person who needs to reveal their role to Eagles asap

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Just now, Spartan said:

Lol sorry bud, just needed to be able to differentiate the contradicting claims  

 

Now that it's a little clearer, one of the two is lying. Vote up Ricer, and if he's actually bg, we jail and execute DA ( sorry   ). After that, I have another person who needs to reveal their role to Eagles asap

Then we lose two town - I also stated that my sheriff search was on Ricer and it came back innocent.

[omgitshim 902]

 

22 minutes ago, ContinentalCup036 said:

unless there is both a witch and a coven leader then it makes sense

 

Cannot be a Witch in a Coven game; Coven Leader replaces it.

 

7 minutes ago, diamond_ace said:

Then we lose two town - I also stated that my sheriff search was on Ricer and it came back innocent.

 

If you are controlled then you targeted someone else.

[omgitshim 902]

Vote Ricer

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Just now, omgitshim said:

 

 

 

If you are controlled then you targeted someone else.

This is what I needed to hear

[omgitshim 902]

And yeah its a quirk of the game that it says Witch when the Coven Leader does it.

[diamond_ace 3,112]

Well, if there's anyone I trust to know the mechanics and to be right about my search result being on someone else, it's the guy who runs the EFL one.

vote ricer

[Caboose30 152]

Oy have you all forgotten about the ANY role?

[Caboose30 152]

@omgitshim please confirm for me, the Any role can be anything so long as it's not unique duplicates 

[eaglesfan036 4,603]

@GustavMattias can there be a witch in a coven game?

[Spartan 4,410]

1 minute ago, Caboose30 said:

Oy have you all forgotten about the ANY role?

No, but there can't be a Witch or a second CL in this game. It's impossible with the game mechanics. Ricer could not have been controlled.

[Spartan 4,410]

Just now, Caboose30 said:

@omgitshim please confirm for me, the Any role can be anything so long as it's not unique duplicates 

Every Coven role is unique. Check the wiki link I sent earlier.

[Oatex 235]

Sorry, im not following very well, im kind of a noob at this game. How many votes are needed to lynch, and whats the evidence to vote ricer, im not voting him without evidence.