JardyB10 4,865 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 There was also like, a fourth party rumour about a major death allegedly supposed to happen in Episode 4 quite some time before the series aired. Except after the leaks hit there was a hard ban on talking about unaired episodes, so it has me scurred. :\ It happened. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-214730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,954 Posted May 13, 2015 Admin Share Posted May 13, 2015 So Jorah is getting the Jon Connington treatment then. Pretty annoying as the show has now implied that Stoneheart is not important, Aegon/Connington is not important, and both Jorah and Barristan die. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-218175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 So Jorah is getting the Jon Connington treatment then. Pretty annoying as the show has now implied that Stoneheart is not important, Aegon/Connington is not important, and both Jorah and Barristan die. Greyjoya not important, manderlys nor important, the list just goes on. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-218208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,954 Posted May 13, 2015 Admin Share Posted May 13, 2015 Oh yeah, LET'S JUST COMPLETELY FORGET RICKON EVER EXISTED Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-218209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Like I said in the other thread, I think it's clear at this point the show won't be that close to the books. I don't think we can say that just because something isn't in the shore jut won't be important in the books. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-218213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,891 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 Oh yeah, LET'S JUST COMPLETELY FORGET RICKON EVER EXISTED My favorite is still Gendry, the now three-seasons long Olympic rowing champion. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-218215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,954 Posted May 13, 2015 Admin Share Posted May 13, 2015 My favorite is still Gendry, the now three-seasons long Olympic rowing champion.I presume Edric Storm murdered him for stealing his role. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-218218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Am I becoming a cranky old man or is this season just...not that good? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-219415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 meh, I feel like the shit will happen just later. It's just setting everything. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-219426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 I actually really enjoyed last week's episode. Still haven't watched tonight's though. I actually forgot about it because of holiday...feels like a Saturday. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-219475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,954 Posted May 18, 2015 Admin Share Posted May 18, 2015 Am I becoming a cranky old man or is this season just...not that good?Well to be fair the book.... OK the book was a nice read. I hated Clash of Kings the most but obviously this was a pretty big drop off after Storm of Swords. But as I was reading the book (or books), it never felt like it would successfully translate onto screen. It's just not movie material at this point, all the intricacies, all the little things they left out in the past added up. On a lighter note, I like that (based on the build-up), most seasons end with Stannis being involved in a battle haha. All over the continent. Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-219694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted May 21, 2015 Author Share Posted May 21, 2015 Aye, A Feast for Dragons wasn't the most TV-friendly chunk of the series. Although that said, neither was AGOT. Other than the Sand Snakes, I think the show is wonderful and doing a wonderful job. And I've said it before, the more different it is from the books, the happier I am. I'm glad they killed Barry for kicks because now I have no idea how he'll die in the books. Everything is wonderful. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaciem 86 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) I read the series nine years ago (not Dance with Dragon's obviously, read that when it came out). I enjoy watching the series because I do not remember all the details of the books, also I am completely okay with changes they make in the show as they are working WITH Martin. It is not like the Hobbit where the director makes a mockery of Tolkien's work and the author has no ability to prevent that sacrilege from taking place. Edited May 21, 2015 by Glaciem Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I read the series nine years ago (not Dance with Dragon's obviously, read that when it came out). I enjoy watching the series because I do not remember all the details of the books, also I am completely okay with changes they make in the show as they are working WITH Martin. It is not like the Hobbit where the director makes a mockery of Tolkien's work and the author has no ability to prevent that sacrilege from taking place. In fairness, neither does GRRM- he's alive, but he signed over rights to them. He's already told them not to kill off people that have been killed off, they don't care what he says anymore. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaciem 86 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) In fairness, neither does GRRM- he's alive, but he signed over rights to them. He's already told them not to kill off people that have been killed off, they don't care what he says anymore. Considering he has wrote an episode a season I'm not sure you are correct. He has also already told the people involved the ending to the series so they cannot muck it up completely. Edited May 22, 2015 by Glaciem Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glaciem 86 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Side Note: A great interview with Martin Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I only watch the show, should I be in here? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Considering he has wrote an episode a season I'm not sure you are correct. He has also already told the people involved the ending to the series so they cannot muck it up completely. an episode a season is not the same as him having input on every episode and every storyline. They killed a Dothraki bloodrider back in season 1 that is a PoV character in the next book despite martin expressly telling them not to. And it has nothing to do with them knowing the ending, it's about the changes they're making to the basic story. They're already straying so far that Martin has done interviews to remind people that the show and books are now two completely separate stories. Basically yeah we'll get the same endgame but not the same story. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Basically yeah we'll get the same endgame but not the same story. Is that even guaranteed? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,954 Posted May 23, 2015 Admin Share Posted May 23, 2015 Considering he has wrote an episode a season I'm not sure you are correct. He has also already told the people involved the ending to the series so they cannot muck it up completely. Pretty telling he has not written an episode for season 5. Hobbit was based on a book already written so that's a counter argument. Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillean 504 Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Is that even guaranteed?yeah they said they're not changing the ending, just how they get there. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-220925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,954 Posted June 2, 2015 Admin Share Posted June 2, 2015 So episode 10 (wiki article didn't have the name until very recently) is called Mother's Mercy, I know this will be about Cersei but maybe a last minute Stoneheart appearance? I can hope, right? Though it seems the chances are about as high as the Greyjoys becoming relevant. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-224558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 I doubt it, but I'd be very happy for it. Also there's been a casting call for Euron for next season. Also the Tarly family. Also young Ned, Robert, and maybe Brandon for flashbacks. As per our IM conversation, I'll put my full speculation in these spoiler tags in case some poor soul wanders in here by accident. In Episode 9, Ramsay and his 20 bros ambush the Mannis camp. Mannis dies in a final scene which causes the oceans to run asunder in readers tears. The next episode involves much bruhaha with Mel-Selyse camp wanting to burn Shireen to bring him back. Davos opposes hard, and possibly also dies. I'll never know what happens beyond this because I'll be so grief-stricken I'll scratch out my own eyes. Meanwhile Olly stabs Jon because he's an evil little shithead. Meanwhile Mel gets her way and Shireen burns and this is the most sad two consecutive hours in the entire world I just realized. Stannis does not come back. Jon does. The end. Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-224578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,954 Posted June 2, 2015 Admin Share Posted June 2, 2015 Well fuck that's deep. I don't actually believe Davos will die or that you were more than half serious about that but now that you mention it I question where his not-searching-for-Rickon storyline will take him. I do however agree that Winterfell storyline will culminate and go ahead of the books. Though I don't know what outcome I expect. I hope that Stannis has some role in the future (reddit theories are so numerous and borderline ridiculous but surely one of them has to be a bit accurate). So with that hope I think he beats Ramsay and fucks him over with a surprise attack during the storm when Ramsay does his foray and then who knows. I am fairly confident this will be episode 9. Partially because I retain hope for Stoneheart (why do I bother with hope in this show?) reveal in episode 10 and/or Jon death as last scene of season. Although I can see Jon being moved to the traditional Stark murdering slot of episode 9. But I do think that Jon will be left on the same cliffhanger as the book because the show has actually never done that yet. Any surprise death was followed by the aftermath in the same season. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-224587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 Episode 9 will also have Daznak's Pit shenanigans in it I just remembered. My goodness this season is going to end on so many extreme notes! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/8689-a-song-of-ice-and-fire-thread/page/3/#findComment-224591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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