QUE/RIG ; S38

[Mike 708]

To QUE:

 Season 39 3rd

 Season 40 2nd

 

To RIG

Doug Clifford

 

Doug Clifford is also changing positions from F to D.

[Frank 5,259]

Accept. Also agreed to position change. 

[eaglesfan036 4,605]

Money!

[James 77]

Awesome!

[Kesler 1,514]

Shit.

[Seth 92]

That S40 2nd will possibly add an active member, and perhaps a solid one at that. Therefore, trading a semi-decent rental for a bit more than half a season for that price, is not too shabby. Nice trade for both sides.

Edited June 6, 2014 by Seth

[Fire Tortorella 2,653]

That S39 2nd will certainly add an active member, and perhaps a solid one at that. Therefore, trading a semi-decent rental for a bit more than half a season for that price, plus an additional 2nd is quite good. Nice trade for both sides, though I prefer it for Quebec slightly. 

 

Not really. You have a 50/50 shot at best, and even that's being extremely generous.

[Guest]

That S39 2nd will certainly add an active member, and perhaps a solid one at that. Therefore, trading a semi-decent rental for a bit more than half a season for that price, plus an additional 2nd is quite good. Nice trade for both sides, though I prefer it for Quebec slightly.

The S40 2nd will most likely be 15th-20th, so unless the drafts of the past are totally disregarded, it will produce a VHLM calibre player. No disrespect to anyone drafted in there but as the drafts have shown, 15-20 isn't really that strong of an area. I say this because unless Seattle is getting rid of Smyl, they would be stupid to rebuild.

Edit: You know theres only 1 2nd in here right?

Edited June 6, 2014 by Kendrick

[Seth 92]

I misread the initial OP so may bad there. However, I the S40 draft thus far projects to be rather solid, so I do not feel it is a stretch to say one can nab an active there. Honestly, Clifford does not have a great amount of value, so a 2nd seems about right.

[Guest]

I misread the initial OP so may bad there. However, I the S40 draft thus far projects to be rather solid, so I do not feel it is a stretch to say one can nab an active there. Honestly, Clifford does not have a great amount of value, so a 2nd seems about right.

You realize not 1 player has been deemed eligible for the S40 draft right? Not sure how it can be solid so far.

[Seth 92]

You realize not 1 player has been deemed eligible for the S40 draft right? Not sure how it can be solid so far.

May have not been deem eligible, but if you analyze who will/may be, it already adds a decent layer at the top. I think we are formulating a significant amount of hyperbole over a rather simple comment I made.  

[Guest]

May have not been deem eligible, but if you analyze who will/may be, it already adds a decent layer at the top. I think we are formulating a significant amount of hyperbole over a rather simple comment I made.

Or you are speculating without looking up the history of the 15-20 picks in the past 10 seasons. To say it's a "solid" pick is kind of premature and lacks some validity. In the past 5 drafts, only 2 players from 15-20 have made it into the VHL. One is now inactive and has been for three seasons and the other just made his way into the VHL.

I'm not saying Quebec didn't get a good return, but to say that those are solid picks is slightly off.

[Seth 92]

Or you are speculating without looking up the history of the 15-20 picks in the past 10 seasons. To say it's a "solid" pick is kind of premature and lacks some validity. In the past 5 drafts, only 2 players from 15-20 have made it into the VHL. One is now inactive and has been for three seasons and the other just made his way into the VHL.

I'm not saying Quebec didn't get a good return, but to say that those are solid picks is slightly off.

Fair enough, but the main premise of my comments, was that Quebec did well in their return considering who they dealt, and the present circumstances. 

[Devise 4,475]

Here is the first of likely only two noteworthy trades this year. Predictable season all in all.

 

Also Seth the fact is Quebec had to settle for what they got. Clifford may not have much value but he's still a 551 TPE rental who has not depreciated. A late 2nd and a likely irrelevant third is called taking what you can get. Clifford easily could of been worth a late 1st in a fairer market, or at the very least two 2nds with ome of them being 10-15. 

[Seth 92]

Here is the first of likely only two noteworthy trades this year. Predictable season all in all.

 

Also Seth the fact is Quebec had to settle for what they got. Clifford may not have much value but he's still a 551 TPE rental who has not depreciated. A late 2nd and a likely irrelevant third is called taking what you can get. Clifford easily could of been worth a late 1st in a fairer market, or at the very least two 2nds with ome of them being 10-15. 

Which I completely understand, but like I previously affirmed, under the present circumstances, Quebec did not do too poorly for themselves. Not sure why my premise is being distorted? 

[Phil 5,129]

OH IT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

Which I completely understand, but like I previously affirmed, under the present circumstances, Quebec did not do too poorly for themselves. Not sure why my premise is being distorted? 

They didn't do bad, but they didn't do solid as you would say. Frank had no choice so realistically what he got here is far from market value, but was the only trade on the table for him considering.

[Frank 5,259]

Draft picks are like lottery tickets the more you have the better your chances. There is no market for rentals right now so Quebec is pretty happy getting this for Clifford. 

[NotAVHLM-GM 1,858]

May have not been deem eligible, but if you analyze who will/may be, it already adds a decent layer at the top. I think we are formulating a significant amount of hyperbole over a rather simple comment I made.  

 

Even though I would like it, I don't think I'm allowed to create 15 players of my own to fill up this draft class.

I know only one person besides me who is re-creating so far.

[Frank 5,259]

Even though I would like it, I don't think I'm allowed to create 15 players of my own to fill up this draft class.

I know only one person besides me who is re-creating so far.

Hopefully Quebec gets the first overall pick. 

[8Ovechkin8 262]

seth getting raped because of an opinion e5

[sherifflobo 137]

Yeah!

[Victor 11,021]

You've joined the dark side Frank.

May have not been deem eligible, but if you analyze who will/may be, it already adds a decent layer at the top. I think we are formulating a significant amount of hyperbole over a rather simple comment I made.

I don't disagree with the rest of what you said but I don't understand on what information you're basing the strength of the S40 draft. If only expected recreates join, it'll be pretty bad. In the end, something like S38 seems realistic.

[Will 4,662]

You've joined the dark side Frank.I don't disagree with the rest of what you said but I don't understand on what information you're basing the strength of the S40 draft. If only expected recreates join, it'll be pretty bad. In the end, something like S38 seems realistic.

Hey now S38 was clearly the bomb, just look at me

[Mike 708]