Victor

Yeah it also did work out alright.

Mars > HHH so I stand by this.

The fourth title though... oh wait, fuck Jardy. ?

Wheres the meme What have you done to the meme Did you lose the meme when you updated discipline

The strive for perfection means never being satisfied. That is the cross we have to bear.

The ghost of Cologne gives us strength.

malmao

#Malmo>Moscow

Nothing works and shootouts are the devil.

You know I'll be here waiting.

Who hasn't tbf

We have been disrespected by these rankings for too long now.

I am fuming at this clickbait primarily because I wanted to see you put Zamora ahead of Saeijs.

no

Sounds like Prague alright.

Weird to see this with the best defence ever.

Simon madness this.

Meh, no shootouts in the playoffs.

Thank you New York, for existing.

Step 1 to fixing this problem @Will @Josh

Euro conference best conference

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There has been growing talk about the lack of retired numbers in the VHL in recent seasons (or numbers in general). Fortunately I had a MS set-up just for this purpose which I don't feel like writing so let's look at some of the worst offenders. Seattle S4 & S5 cups: Danny Tremblay, #31, Patrice Reynaud, #58 S12 cup: Zacky Vengeance, #8, Alexander Beketov, #88, Sandro Desaulniers, #94 S17 cup: Sandro Desaulniers, #94, Markus Strauss, #9 S28 cup: Mitch Higgins, #60, Felix Peters, #92 S43 cup: N/A S59 cup: N/A S68 & S69 cups: N/A @Banackock has been GM for approximately 50 years and has not retired a single number in this time. Now to be fair Seattle set the bar pretty high in their early days and after Peters, Higgins, and their friends retired in S30 it was pretty slim pickings. The Bears have unsurprisingly tried to ignore the S43 cup and didn't have a whole load of success for 30 seasons. But under Bana's watch, there has been a bit of a return to the glory days. Gabriel McAllister spent 6 of his 8 illustrious seasons with Seattle and led them them to a cup at last in S59, so you'd assume that would be worthy of retiring his #21. After that, it's not customary for GMs to retire their own numbers but you'd imagine one of Bana's will get the honour eventually – probably Aleksei Federov's #63 or Maxim Kovalchuk's #44. And none of those options would have been retired previously! The S67 core is obviously still active, with the likely players now going to be some combination of Greene, Hogan, Sundqvist, and Funk. Riga S4 finals: Chris Julien, #13, Markko St. Urho, #14 S10 cup: Layken Heidt, #51, Torsten Schwarz, #5, Blake Beukeboom, #2, Vladimir Kliment, #77, Marek Van Urho, #31 S16 cup: Max Kroenenburg, #54 S20 near-miss: Olivier Scarlett, #32, Max Kroenenburg, #54 S32 finals: Ansgar Snijider, #13, Miles Larsson, #53 S33 cup: Miles Larsson, #53 S40 cup: Brennan McQueen, #95, Mike Szatkowski Jr., #78 S51 cup: N/A S57 & S58 cups: N/A S63 cup: N/A Oh look, another long-term GM who hasn't bothered honouring his players. @hedgehog337 Riga definitely has some catching up to do as all those cup wins had some worthy players, from Pietro Maximoff (#25) to Markus King (#50). Fredinamijs Krigars, #43, and Kallis Kriketers, #who knows, fall into the Federov/Kovalchuk category above but definitely worthy of retirement by a future GM (unless hedge is an egomaniac). In the meantime, to pass the time he can also retire Podrick Cast's #96, Ryan Kastelic's #13 (for a third time), and Edwin Preencarnacion's #10. Vancouver S35 cup: Alexander Valiq, #5 S42 finals: Bruno Wolf, #8 S56 cup: N/A S67 cup: N/A Quebec dropped the ball a bit after going on 4 straight finals and 1 cup in the 50s. Look at all these Hall of Famers: Lukas Muller. Fabio Jokinen. Fook Yu. Apollo Skye. John Locke. Retire some numbers. Also 2-time GM Frank deserves some love. Aksel Thomassen, John Sleeman, Pierre Gaudette, pick any or all of the three. Your move @Beaviss.