Victor

Woo first win! Great game second line @Tixe @riverriverriverriverriver @Quinn Shmyr

Sid the Kid

Trade deadline creation would mean those 10 players are in the VHLM first. So if S51 trade deadline opened up to second players, S52 would go up to 33mil, while S53 would be 34mil when the players actually come in.

I suppose. Approval if GMs unsure, veto if blatant circumvention. Kind of like the trading back players rule.

but why would the GM do that? Branching out from the don't-be-a-dick draft restriction, I think any blatant forcing of yourself on your own team should be cracked down on.

we can't go into this with the blind hope that no one will try to abuse the system. Honestly, the only restrictions here are no FA (and honestly, what saddo wants to to join an LR with them in it already?) and not being a dick at the draft. They're very simple but necessary to be in writing. Lottery sounds fun but YEAH's idea certainly rewards activity in that particular season which is cool and interactive.

Gotta recreate in time to make a second player imo.

We've had lots of great discussion in the other thread, and the OP there remains an excellent read if you want to find out/revisit the reasons why this is an awesome idea and the responses to the various possible criticisms. However! I have gone through the thread and compiled something of a loose rulebook for this proposal based largely on what's been discussed there and a bit of my own opinion. Behold... Second Player Proposal 1. Restrictions on draft years The two players must be at least 3 seasons apart. So in a nutshell, a S50 draftee will be able to create a S53 draftee but not S51 or S52. Two seasons is certainly too short a timeframe IMO, while four seasons is half a career - probably too much of a wait. 2. Two players on the same team I believe there was no opposition to my suggestion as follows: Draft Second player can be drafted to the team of the first player BUT NOT if the user forces other GMs to pass on him. Free Agency Under no circumstances can a user choose to sign with one of their players to the team of the other. Trades No trades which bypass the FA restriction above (i.e. sign and trade). Otherwise, free trade remains. 3. GM players Regardless of the above, I believe one GM player must be on the GM's team at all times. Or have their rights owned by the team like Travis Gowecny or Sven Wolf atm. Basically one GM player continued to adhere to current GM player rules. Likewise, you can not take over a team without at least one of your players on board (which should be easier than what it is now anyway). 4. Earning TPE I believe we have reached consensus on PTs/PT replacements: Each player earns TPE from: - 1 6 TPE Point Task OR welfare claim per week * - 1 VHL.com article OR 2 TPE radio per week - the bio and rookie profile relating to that player - awards relating to that player * both players can not claim welfare in the same week. 2 PTs or 1 PT and 1 welfare are the only allowed combinations. Also welfare claims will HAVE TO include player name for ease of updating. Each user earns TPE for both players from: - donations - jobs - any fantasy/trivia/predictions/etc. - top GM awards 5. Carryover You can use carryover from one player once, same as it is now. If you have a 1,000 and 600 TPE players, then retire the 1,000 one and move back to just one player, you can then claim carryover from the 1,000 TPE one for whenever you retire the 600 TPE player. For most cases it will just be a case of carryover from your last player since the above scenario is only possible if someone gets a second player and then decides to take a break from having two players. 6. Implementation Timeline: Cap initial second players at 10 or 15. Make a TPE tracker (or use/adapt @YEAH!stlemania's index) for the season of implementation, and the top 10/15 players who earned the most TPE in that particular season, get first dibs on second players. No initial expansion. It's not necessary. First goal should be 11 actives per 10 teams. The salary cap will have to increase but it should be a gradual increase. Numbers need to be crunched but given initially second players will be draftees, then cheap rookies, it could probably go up on an incremental basis. First season after proposal implemented: salary cap $33 million then $34 million, 35, etc etc. Maybe stop and look at how things are going at 36mil and if necessary go up to 40. Now we have structure, let us continue!

Wrong Clegane probably, his kryptonite is indeed little girls

That's it, only option now is to go down to the VHLM myself!

Damn so long ago now. Congrats!

Faux can't do it alone Helsinki!

Damn Stockholm's in a bad place

Weinstein is holding out

Excellent start.

Good work top line, PP will need some work. And how do I get Sam Wall?

Klajums, I expected better for my #1 priority slot.

Ken Anderson, what an FA pick-up.

what tampering accusations?

Excellent, all teams on time for a change.

oui oui le fromage merci beaucoup mon cheri

God damn it.

sixth time* would be fourth in a row. Sevilla only made it back into the EL by beating Juventus on the last group stage matchday, which also allowed Man City to go on an undeserved run to the semifinal. But yes, I predict the same.

@JardyB10

fucking prick