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It is Trav, it always has been. Don't let the confused guide you on this issue. The VHLM Achievement Tracker is for anyone in their current draft year or past draft years who has played in the VHLM. Only ones excluded are trade deadline recreates and creations going into the next draft class.

What shit out? Doesn't it get tiring losing arguments all the time because you just say what you feel instead of actually looking at said issue (or non-issue)? I mean you don't even know what the 200 cap is for or the VHLM's identity. You are arguing for the sake of arguing again.

Why does it sound like bullshit? I'm giving the 100% go-ahead for them to do it because I then know the member behind the player may do as they wish. The job of a VHLM GM is to develop and help new members and recreates reach their potential or at least give them the building blocks to start their career. Both @JardyB10 and I know that we can't stop call ups and if it happens, next man up on the lines. This isn't running the VHLM. The fact that you said that shows you clearly do not know what the VHLM is actually for. There is no high horse man, if there was I'd be sitting here whining about a player being called up to the VHL; but alas that isn't me that is you doing that. I know I'm not better than anyone else, thats why I give them the go-ahead. I sincerely think you have no idea about this topic but just like to be involved in it to make you feel good. You're argument isn't very good and it's not winning anyone over anyways, so it's best to just throw the towel in.

For the record if any VHL GM wants to call up Ottawa players to their squad, go right ahead. I will consider that a win-win as the player gets what he wants and Ottawa got a good season out of said player. It's about developing these players, not my own personal GM trophy cabinet.

False. It should be looked at a reward for their success in the VHLM, regardless of if that time was cut short because of a call-up. The Achievement Tracker wasn't introduced years ago as a reward for playing in the VHLM. It was a reward for having stats in the VHLM. Quill has stats in the VHLM this year and thus he will get TPE from those (regardless of how low or high that TPE number becomes). I think there is a huge disconnect in what you want and what you are arguing. The VHLM is a developmental league and if players get called up and they have talked to the VHL GM about it, that is their choice. If a VHL GM had not talked to them and just called them up, we might have an issue; but thats not the case here. See folks this is why cliques are dangerous in sim leagues, you'll get dragged into an argument where you have no real point but you just like arguing for the sake of arguing.

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Well what do you mean "those so called vets"? Because every time someone creates there are literally 3-4 vets in the thread helping out or talking to them in the chat. It's almost like you are suggesting things that are already happening. A new member will see that it's a "Create-A-Player" league and you should have control over your player if you want. Green isn't hand cuffing his VHLM team, because the VHLM is there to develop and he feels he has developed into a VHL player now. You are literally telling us that in a league where we invite people to come play, they should have no control over their player once he is drafted.

Recruitment is an issue. But if people cry foul over something like this than how are we supposed to keep guys around?

Dude, the 200 Cap isn't there so that you hit it and come up. The cap is there so that if you have 200 earned TPE you go up to the VHL if you are above that cap by season start. The cap being put in place has nothing to do with if a prospect wants to come up or not. Last time you checked? You obviously never checked at all. You're right though, the VHLM was here for a reason. It was here so players can develop before and after their draft year. If they are drafted they may wish to come up at any time in their career. It's not up to the VHLM GM to dictate when they do or don't come up. I remember people calling up players in the old days when the VHLM teams were actually linked to a VHL team. I don't think you can argue this as I don't think you have a grasp on the whole 200 Cap thing or call-ups in general.

Well think about it this way, if someone is not a fan of the lines and is in the VHLM; it is his right to ask to be called up. It's a developmental league and if that member feels they are not developing to their liking, they can do something about it because they were drafted. Is it worth punishing a guy for staying down if he doesn't want too? No. Green isn't doing it as a slap to the face of the VHLM. You re literally getting angry just because you can, not that it's warranted here. I want people to react the way they feel their player's career should go. Considering this is a player simulation league and not a GM league. You literally are baffled at the disrespectful people yet you have gone out and personally attacked several in the last couple days. At what stage do you look at yourself in that same boat? I don't see where the disconnect is here. A member wanted his player to come up because it's his player and it's his enjoyment in this league. He isn't shitting on anything actually. You would rather his player be held hostage even though it's his player? That literally is ass backwards. NO ONE is better than the next person, you are exactly right. Which is why no VHLM GM is better than a prospect and can't hold them hostage or even complain if the player wants to exercise his right in getting called up. You are contradicting yourself a lot in that paragraph.

Um...the player himself wanted to come up though. Which means he is okay losing out of the Achievement tracker. There is no other argument, that is the way it is.

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Chase Keller Center Kitchener Rangers Pleasant Camp, B.C. 6'2" - 202 lbs. Born in Pleasant Camp, British Columbia; Chase Keller really had no one to lean on for his hockey inspiration. His family had no history of playing the game outside of road hockey pick-up games. That didn't stop this young lad though as he drifted towards playing hockey from a young age. Pleasant Camp is home to 12 people in peak season and therefore there are not many kids to grow up playing hockey with. Luckily for Keller there were two other kids in his neighbourhood who liked to play and good thing; because they were the only other two kids living in Pleasant Camp while Keller grew up. One of the kids prided himself on playing goaltender every day, while the other little kid said she just loved to be a playmaker. it was quite the bond these three kids shared considering the low population in this small place. With the closest big city/town in Alaska, Pleasant Camp is very remote. There isn't much to do in Pleasant Camp if you're a kid. The main purpose of the little town (if you can call it that) is to provide Alaska with a customs post for mail and for border entry. Because of that Keller had to go elsewhere if he wanted to play hockey at a young age and continue his journey to the professional ranks. That's where the family connections actually did come into play. Keller's family originally came form the eastern side of the country in Waterloo, Ontario. Chase decided if he wanted to play hockey he had to go live with relatives out east and continue on with a OHL squad. The Kitchener Rangers came calling in the U-18 OHL Priority Selection draft. The Rangers spent a 7th round selection on grabbing the young British Columbia native. With his Aunt and Uncle on board and getting him to practice on time everyday, he started his journey with the OHL franchise. As a seventeen year old Keller had the advantage of becoming an OHL under-age prospect with the Kitchener Rangers. The franchise was big on the young but tall centerman. Keller was bigger than the kids his age and an early growth spurt gave him a huge advantage over kids his age, but not so much the ones a little older. His first year with the Rangers was a bit of an advantage as it was filled with injuries, press box watching and team events to become familiar with the pressure of being an OHL player. Pleasant Camp to Kitchener is a about a 3500 mile drive one-way, so it was a long way from home for a young seventeen year old boy. Luckily with his family on board and his Uncle encouraging him every step of the way, he started a career. Season 1 (Reg. Season): 12 GP, 2G, 3A, 5P, 14 Hits, 47.4 FO% The off-season going into his second season was a huge one for Keller. Chase added about 15 pounds to his frame and came out to all the team workout sessions. With the guidance of coaching and the direction from scouts, Keller tried to groom himself whether it was from Kitchener or when he returned to see his parents in Pleasant Camp for a few weeks at a time. The added pounds gave Keller some more confidence heading into his second season with the Kitchener Rangers. Season 2 (Reg. Season): 53 GP, 13G - 14A - 27P, 54 Hits, 53.7 FO% After a pretty successful year as an eighteen year-old, Keller was starting to get some scouts looking at his game. Unfortunately the scouts were pegging him as a perfect checking line forward at the next level. Keller had heard the noise of a checking forward and he gasped as he wanted to be more than that. Going into his NHL draft year he figured they may take notice that he had more in the tank. Keller was passed over in the draft by all NHL teams a few times until the Minnesota Wild selected him in the 5th round, 147th overall. With a pro career in the horizon, Keller went back to Kitchener to build his resume and gain some much needed experience. Season 3 (Reg. Season): 64 GP, 32G - 51A - 83P, 101 Hits, 55.2 FO% A huge year for Chase Keller as he headed back to the Rangers and put up some great numbers. Centering the top line did him wonders and teamed with Jeremy Bracco he had a very productive year. The Minnesota faithful were very happy with the season unfortunately they couldn't ink a deal with Keller because they had two many contracts signed and thus missed the deadline to extend an offer to Keller's party. Keller would go into the next NHL draft if he wanted too. Luckily his numbers were better this time and it looked like he would become an earlier pick. Unfortunately scouts didn't think he was a product of talent but a product of his line mates and they passed on him in every round; eventually meaning he went undrafted. Coming from a very unknown place in British Columbia, Chase Keller knew it would take a lot to get noticed from a young age. The move to Ontario was huge for exposure and his development. Keller knew he would have to make a huge choice to go across the country when he was young or risk never making it out of Pleasant Camp. Most people go to Juneau for hockey where the Alaska Aces were situated. Keller chose a different route and it almost worked from him in the NHL. A contract mix up and the Wild couldn't hold onto the future services of Keller. Now he starts his progression towards the Victory Hockey League and a career with one of the ten teams that make up that league. First though, he had a stop over in Ottawa to play for the Lynx. NHL Comparison: Austin Watson/Jeff Carter

Technically ruining the development doesn't occur if the member himself wants to come up. If he is losing out on TPE it is up to him to choose what he wants. Not really a big issue

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I have sent him a PM and talked to him in chat ftr

You'll always be second though, because you don't vote for yourself.

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Um...

You will fit right in with some of the others who don't know hockey here, don't worry. There is a place for us all

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