Beketov

Deal with the same shit for six months, have everyone tell you what you’re doing is wrong (for opposite reasons) and then try to be funny about it. It’s tricky.

He won’t be.

We’re decide how to handle. My main point was that within the last two seasons offering Max contract for inactive has been completely unnecessary.

Unintentionally perhaps. Most improved is always a pain to do nominations for. I felt like I could have had it a few years and didn’t receive a nomination; it happens.

Even if he does count as inactive; that’s not how inactive FA works anymore.

@Will and I are discussing how to deal with this.

You aren’t wrong but neither is @Higgins. The point of having votes be in the BOG was to remove the bias that GM’s voting was creating. If BOG members are voting for bias reasons it doesn’t make it any better. Yes, he should not have been a prick; especially if he cares so much about awards. However the point of a trusted committee doing the voting is to get accurate votes for the players, not the members. If the BOG can’t do that we will need to be creating an award committee that can. In any case, the votes changed nothing but it is probably true those awards should have been sweeps.

*Remember, if you won an award (individual) in either the VHL or VHLM, you are entitled to add 2 TPE for each award won. If you are a co-winner, add 1 TPE for that award. To claim, just link this page to your updates. Team awards do not apply for TPE. I also included everyone who was nominated this season for the sake of transparency; regardless of if they received votes or not. S59 VHL Award Winners Championship - Continental Cup: Seattle Bears Best Regular Season Record - Victory Cup: Toronto Legion First Finals Champion - Devon Marlow-Marta Trophy: Helsinki Titans Second Finals Champion - Terence Fong Trophy: Seattle Bears MVP - Scotty Campbell Trophy: Franchise Cornerstone (HSK) Cornerstone (HSK) - 6, DeGrath (NYA) - 3, Ron (HSK) - 0, Boeser (TOR) - 0 Most Outstanding Player (player vote) - Brett Slobodzian Trophy: Franchise Cornerstone (HSK) Cornerstone (HSK) - 22, DeGrath (NYA) - 10, Boeser (TOR) - 5, Louth (QUE) - 3, Krigars (RIG) - 1, Playoff MVP - Daisuke Kanou Trophy: Gabriel McAllister (SEA) & Vernon Von Axelberry (SEA) McAllister (SEA) - 4, Axelberry (SEA) - 4, Gretzky (SEA) - 1, Johnsson (SEA) - 0 Leading Points - Mike Szatkowski Trophy: Franchise Cornerstone (HSK) - 133 Leading Goals - Kevin Brooks Trophy: Franchise Cornerstone (HSK) - 67 Leading Assists - Alexander Beketov Trophy: Ay Ay Ron (HSK) - 81 Lowest GAA - Greg Clegane Trophy: Rhett DeGrath (NYA) - 1.89 Top Offensive Defenseman - Sterling Labatte Trophy: Ay Ay Ron (HSK) Ron (HSK) - 7, Jokinen (TOR) - 2 Top Defensive Defenseman - Jake Wylde Trophy: Fabio Jokinen (TOR) Jokinen (TOR) - 9, Ron (HSK) - 0 Top Goalie - Aidan Shaw Trophy: Rhett DeGrath (NYA) DeGrath (NYA) - 9, King (RIG) - 0, Ironside (TOR) - 0 Top Rookie - Christian Stolzschweiger Trophy: David Kiaskov (QUE) Kiaskov (QUE) - 9, Warlock (QUE) - 0 Top Two-Way Forward - Scott Boulet Trophy: Franchise Cornerstone (HSK) Cornerstone (HSK) - 7, Yu (TOR) - 2, Sokolov (TOR) - 0 Executive of the Year - David Knight Trophy: Blake Campbell (SEA) Campbell (SEA) - 8, Wong (NYA) - 1, Higgins (HSK) - 0, Boychuk (TOR) - 0 Most Improved - Dustin Funk Trophy: Jasper Canmore (CGY) Canmore (CGY) - 8, Do (TOR) - 0, Jones (NYA) - 0 (The voting numbers in this category are off because 1 member left it blank.) Congratulations to all the winners! VHLM Awards will come in their own thread soon.

Shep is still the GM player, even if @Higgins didn’t re-sign him he’ll be auto-signed. Jacob is fair game.

Toronto Locker Room is a good influence on people.

GM’s are still allowed to have 2 players. While Louth was the GM player Quebec did have to “pay” to acquire him which wouldn’t be the case with GM players normally. Therefore we allowed @Beaviss to create a new player for his GM player and trade Louth. The slight discrepancy in time between the creation and the trade is just because he wanted to be in the VHLM draft.

Seriously, can everyone just leave his thread be? There’s no reason for any of this. Its like people aim for threads they know we can’t lock. I don’t want to read any more baiting, or arguing, or conspiracy theories, or bias this or bias that. Just bloody vote and move on.

Creamed corn and dentures of course.

It’s been a tricky year to nail it down. Tomorrow is seemingly potential. Would be a very big day for sure with the awards also schedule to be coming out.

Unofficially I would love to deem it that.

Having legitimate complaints doesn’t give someone the right to voice them in a completely inappropriate manner. We’ve been trying to get this across to him for months and so far it hasn’t stuck. He isn’t voicing his concern as “public votes inherently add bias to the process so I feel as if a less deserving candidate might win.” Rather he’s telling anyone and everyone that has a difference of opinion that their opinion is wrong and they are an idiot for having it. It completely devalues any bias argument because it makes it out that any non-cornerstone vote is an idiot or bias. That’s even ignoring the fact that everyone else’s apparent bias is an issue but his bias is not? Public polls, by nature, have differences of opinion. Have some people shown they are voting for bias reasons? Yes but it can’t be helped if we don’t want to change the way the Slobo has always been run. At the end of the day @Will is right that any bias that has always been in the vote makes no difference in the end and it never has. Short of getting everyone’s reason for voting and then judging the validity of it, there is no true way to nail down bias votes entirely. It’s simply part of the process with how the slobo vote goes and always has been. If we want to change how this award is ha does that’s fine but that’s not how the argument has been shaped.

To be fair it keeps hiding lately. Somehow when a forum gets accidentally moved somewhere else it always seems to be this one. I only put it back in probably last week from it’s last game of hide and seek. Just an FYI as well, some of the guys you mentioned (STZ, MWHazard, etc) are actually S60 Guys. They came in at pre-season so they weren’t drafted in the VHLM. Puts them in both drafts of the off-season. I think Street was the first S61 guy created.

Just a note as well, I did move this to the radio section.

A nice roundup of the changes. Good to see an older face on board with most of them, at least in most regards. Opened his expecting the old VHLer grumbling of “things changed and I’m mad about it.”

Reminding myself to list to this later.

You come back from a ban and make this your first post? Really? Don’t try to re-ignite this please.

Just a note, predictions for next season were scheduled to open today but the portal is not set up to handle 2 seasons of them at the same time right now. So that has been moved to Saturday after the old predictions are done. If we need a little extra into the season for people to get them done we’ll account for that.

Who’s Denise? Did we get a new member? Does meg know she’s been replaced as the VHL’s token female?

Not to sound harsh but the guy we advertised with is a solid amount larger than the pajodcast. Not that I dislike them, they just don’t quite have the viewerbase.

We’re definitely looking to update these right now. Will likely end up being similar to the HoF updating where we’ll pay some uncapped for some updating.