Beketov

Where I take issue with it isn't the specific city or the logo or the amount of cups. It's that the team has already been there and moved out twice. If any other team was trying to do that I would say the same thing. The city and logo could be perfect and I would still say that it makes no sense to move a team back to somewhere it has already been twice. Moving back the first time was one thing but giving Vasteras a third chance? Really? I have good memories with Vasteras, I'm not saying this out of spite. My first personal success with Beketov came on Vasteras, but when you look at it from the leagu's perspective it just seems silly. Take for example Winnipeg in the NHL. They moved the team out to Arizona and then back to Winnipeg from Atlanta. Already this is better because it isn't the same team moving. Now imagine they sent them somewhere else again and then ONCE AGAIN came back as the Jets. How ridiculous does that sound because it's exactly what's being proposed here. I'm not saying no move should ever be considered. I'm saying I do t see a reason to keep moving a team back and forth from the same city. It's a tedious (and at this point ridiculous) process just so the league can have a universal punching bag which is all Vasteras has ever been.

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Something like that. I think the reason the move back to Vaster was allowed at all was because of how awful the choice of city / name / logo was. The Vikings have a good logo, name, and city though. There is very little reason to move them back.

That is one goal filled shootout haha. Good win boys.

Any franchise that moves I deemed failed. A franchise that's succeeding doesn't move.

According to @Devise you were told in the Discord specifically that the team is not moving back. You are the GM but that does not mean you get to simply decide when the team is moving. The procedure has always been, and will always be, that the blue team must be notified and put any team moves to a vote before they are allowed to go through. We will consider any formal proposal you put forth but you aren't simply changing a VHL team on your own accord because of an internal team poll. Vasteras has come and gone twice. Honestly after the first time the move back shouldn't have been allowed. It's ridiculous and makes no sense to continue moving the team anywhere; let alone back to a city that has failed twice.

When did you do this? As far as the blue team is aware there has been no formal inquiry into moving the team and when we discussed it because you were talking about it the consensus was heavily in favour of it not happening. If you want to make a formal proposition for it we'll consider it but I wouldn't get your hopes up.

It does feel similar. I don't have the old logos on hand to say for sure.

Well Vasteras isn't coming back so not sure what you're referring to.

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@Gudnason has notified me that he is exercising his right to un-retire. As per the rules since it has been more than 24 hours but less than 48 Rudi Ying will receive a 2-week PT ban. @Gudnason's second player will be unaffected by this ban. It is up to Helsinki and the player to negotiate a contract.

Definitely hard to win when your franchise (get it) scorer takes 17 penalty minutes and gets kicked out halfway through the 1st. Plus Ironside put on a clinic. Not a great opening game of us but kinda flukey tbh. But yeah, @boubabi, wtf was that haha

You do not get to decide that unfortunately. The rules are pre-season retirements are set by the schedule, not by the player retiring. The schedule is very clear that Monday was the start of pre-season retirements. The schedule was posted using Eastern Time and this was posted at 12:15am EST it was therefore posted on Monday the 9th. For this reason your player will remain retired (unless you choose to revoke and suffer the punishments) but will play out the season in Helsinki. By retiring your right to hold out is revoked and you will be automatically resigned.

I wish could say I was surprised by this. Have you managed to stick around until the end of a rookie contract yet?

Initially when people are brought in for discussion it starts with just stats and awards. As the discussion goes through more statistics and analysis happen if necessary. We just don’t start immediately with that stuff because some things are obvious from the get go. For example, when O’Malley or Greg Clegane was brought in we really didn’t need more detail. It was fairly obvious just from their numbers that they were top end talent that should be in the hall. Someone like Holik, for example, will need much more analysis and discussion if it ever comes to that because of a lack of cups, individual awards, and good playoff numbers being the counter to excellent regular season numbers. So basically it just all depends on the players that are currently on the ballot. Like most things in the BOG it isn’t a cut and dry set of rules.

Never had that happen on Safari, weird. Anyway, glad I doubled it at least since this was no a great year for my picks to say the least haha

Better stats will always get in over more cups. The example he was giving was 2 players with basically even stats. At that point it goes to cup and award wins. For example: Not saying either will get in but let’s say Holik and Skye are both up for the HoF. Their stats are likely very similar (as I recall our stats were often pretty close) but Skye has a cup so he’d likely get the nod first. If Holik’s stats were way better though he could realistically get in ahead of Skye without that cup because his stats are more deserving. Does that make more sense?

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Then you can stop arguing for Frank now. We have received your feedback that playoffs should potentially be considered for future seasons but they weren't for this season and you admit you have no argument based on regular season. So given the criteria of the season the best GM won. His stats were enough, that's what it came down to. The discussion just helps to showcase them sometimes. The BOG definitely does not always agree as much as the lopsided votes may imply though.

@ADV will be handling this. Thank you to the applicants.