Guest Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 don't count on me to do a 40 minutes+ cut for 1capped TPE Don't count on the league to hand out TPE left, right and centre though. There has to be some give both ways, can't simply expect tons every time. I've explained this several times. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 allright like I explained to you, don't expect new cuts if it's not interesting for anyone to cut them.And it's ok. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,210 Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 maybe make it 2 cuts for 1 uncapped tpe a week? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,942 Posted October 4, 2014 Admin Share Posted October 4, 2014 Don't count on the league to hand out TPE left, right and centre though. There has to be some give both ways, can't simply expect tons every time. I've explained this several times.yeah there should be less uncapped TPE, am I right? Caillean and Mr. Grumpy Bear 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion.OvOxO 26 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 a cut is 100x harder to do than write a article with 200 words. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I'll agree that a cut is harder to do than a Fan590, but we are already looking at inflation as an issue. Uncapped TPE is hardly what I think we'd hand out. However bumping it up so you get 2 TPE per one cut per week may be fine. That is probably fair value. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 2tpe is much better IMO. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,185 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 If a cut takes 40 minutes then you need to do more cuts. I do a cut for every sig I do I just don't post them lolz Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 438 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yeah I'm sure you cut a high quality picture for every sig Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 post them Caillean 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dion.OvOxO 26 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Ill do some cuts tonight for the teams that dont have any renders Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 yeah there should be less uncapped TPE, am I right? I know what you saying here, if you think cutting out recruitment progresses this league at all, you are crazy. They are asking for uncapped TPE in the 4+ per week region, over an entire season thats more than recruitment rewards which are an entire career. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,210 Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share Posted October 6, 2014 Can I or someone else who is willing to update this be given access. A lot of cuts aren't in there... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil 5,119 Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 IN the wise words of Radiohead: Frank 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Can I or someone else who is willing to update this be given access. A lot of cuts aren't in there... I would if given access Edited October 6, 2014 by Excel Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-132917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 it's updated. Lets now discuss the new pay. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Here my first proposition : 2 HD renders approved by me for 2 uncapped. People claiming that cannot claim the any Fantasy pts during the week. If a normal VHL season is 8 weeks, it's 16 more TPE per season, which is not much. Lets say someone doesn't do cuts and we say that we approx win 3 to 4 TPE per season with the Fantasy pts, it's only 12 more TPE. On a 8 seasons career, it's 96 more TPE which is not much (for a contribution of 128 renders (yes 128)) and since Richardson (Kendrick) have already claimed 50 tpe from recruiting and Green approx 100 TPE already, it's nothing. Everyone has their own specialties, I'm not good at recruiting people, but it shouldn't be a reason to stay behind in gaining TPE. Everyone can do cuts, it doesn't take any kind of originality. It only takes times. You don't have Photoshop ? Well, GIMP is a free software and it's really easy to do cuts with it. I already made tons of cut with GIMP. Plus, I'll propose myself to do a video tutorial on how to cut pictures properly so everyone has their chance. And to prevent any flaws, I'll be sure that people won't claim renders that aren't made by them. I hope I was somewhat clear in my explications. But that's only my opinion. You are free to disagree with it. Edited October 7, 2014 by boubabi Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,746 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I would like to claim 1 TPE for every 50 pairs of breasts I have posted on this board. Please approve my claim of 212 TPE. Thank you. Caillean and Da Trifecta 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,746 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 eaglesfan036 and Caillean 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Here my first proposition : 2 HD renders approved by me for 2 uncapped. People claiming that cannot claim the any Fantasy pts during the week. If a normal VHL season is 8 weeks, it's 16 more TPE per season, which is not much. Lets say someone doesn't do cuts and we say that we approx win 3 to 4 TPE per season with the Fantasy pts, it's only 12 more TPE. On a 8 seasons career, it's 96 more TPE which is not much since Richardson (Kendrick) have already claimed 50 tpe from recruiting and Green approx 100 TPE already. Everyone has their own specialties, I'm not good at recruiting people, but it shouldn't be a reason to stay behind in gaining TPE. Everyone can do cuts, it doesn't take any kind of originality. It only takes times. You don't have Photoshop ? Well, GIMP is a free software and it's really easy to do cuts with it. I already made tons of cut with GIMP. Plus, I'll propose myself to do a video tutorial on how to cut pictures properly so everyone has their chance. And to prevent any flaws, I'll be sure that people won't claim renders that aren't made by them. I hope I was somewhat clear in my explications. But that's only my opinion. You are free to disagree with it. I agree with some of this but not all. You said you aren't good at recruiting, which can be a fair point. You said everyone can do cuts, which is false. Not everyone has the ability too, nor does everyone have a program to do so. Some aren't using their own computer and therefore can't even get GIMP. VHL Fantasy thing is nice, except it's about a 20% occurrence that the average member even wins in Fantasy. This way you are guaranteeing TPE to people whereas the Fantasy is a crapshoot at times. Green has claimed 100 TPE from recruitment? I doubt it. I get it, renders aren't easy. But you are making it sound like anyone and anything can cut a render and claim more points than someone who does Fantasy every week. Which is mostly false. BTW recruiting is not guaranteed TPE, the person does have to do something. Ex. I've recruited about 12 guys who haven't even reached 50 TPE, I get nothing for that. Only the ones who are now huge members here do I actually gain from. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,746 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I missed out on STZ recruitment points Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 You said everyone can do cuts, which is false. (I truly believe that if you put some time in it, everyone can do cuts. It's doesn't take any creativity, it's only clicking. But it takes time, of course) Some aren't using their own computer and therefore can't even get GIMP. ( That is a small minority of people. ) VHL Fantasy thing is nice, except it's about a 20% occurrence that the average member even wins in Fantasy. (That's why I said they usually win 3 to 4 TPE in a season. So, the impact is less (12 TPE a season for 16 renders) This way you are guaranteeing TPE to people whereas the Fantasy is a crapshoot at times. Green has claimed 100 TPE from recruitment? I doubt it. (That's what I've been told) I get it, renders aren't easy. (It's easy, it only takes a good amount of time) But you are making it sound like anyone and anything can cut a render and claim more points than someone who does Fantasy every week. (This is the point. If someone puts at least 1h30 plus hour every week to help creating a nice gallery, they should be rewarded. Fantasy takes approx 3 sec to quote someone. Of course it need to pay more at some point. Sportzin has 6300 members in 8 years and trust me, most of them is because of their cut gallery. It doesn't even need an account to get those render but people heard about some good GFX people who were on the site so they register. It creates a huge amount of traffic.) Which is mostly false. BTW recruiting is not guaranteed TPE. (Maybe it's not guaranteed but you and green already took the biggest recruitment sites already (hfboards, reddit, other sim league, etc.). People won't spam these website again because we don't want to look like stupid spammers (You saw with the number of thumbs down our VHL post received and some SHL post too because they were spamming)) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133405 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Grumpy Bear 347 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) I agree with some of this but not all. You said you aren't good at recruiting, which can be a fair point. You said everyone can do cuts, which is false. Not everyone has the ability too, nor does everyone have a program to do so. Some aren't using their own computer and therefore can't even get GIMP. VHL Fantasy thing is nice, except it's about a 20% occurrence that the average member even wins in Fantasy. This way you are guaranteeing TPE to people whereas the Fantasy is a crapshoot at times. Green has claimed 100 TPE from recruitment? I doubt it. I get it, renders aren't easy. But you are making it sound like anyone and anything can cut a render and claim more points than someone who does Fantasy every week. Which is mostly false. BTW recruiting is not guaranteed TPE, the person does have to do something. Ex. I've recruited about 12 guys who haven't even reached 50 TPE, I get nothing for that. Only the ones who are now huge members here do I actually gain from. Basically the recruitment points here are out of hand, you got 61 in a season by my count times that by 8 seasons = Fucking redic. Recruiting is a job or should be, if you claim 3 or 5 in a week you shouldn't be able to add job points. Weekly cap if you're certain people 20, the rest of us 9 Edited October 7, 2014 by Bushito Will 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted October 7, 2014 Senior Admin Share Posted October 7, 2014 Basically the recruitment points here are out of hand, you got 61 in a season by my count times that by 8 seasons = Fucking redic 61? Not to downplay the importance of recruiting, but holy shit. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,746 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12828-dear-morons-who-run-this-site/page/2/#findComment-133418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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