boubabi 4,725 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Moved the franchise. hate confirmed Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 hate confirmed kendrick hates anything and anyone from Quebec because someone called him an idiot there once or something and he holds this very personally lol. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 kendrick hates anything and anyone from Quebec because someone called him an idiot there once or something and he holds this very personally lol. Before you assume things check the facts, stop accusing me of hating a place and then disregarding anything I've said about the reason I hate it there. By the way the "Move the franchise" was a joke, but I wasn't surprised that got overlooked. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 hate confirmed It was a joke, but while were at is most of the comments from Habs fans so far have been "Biased confirmed". Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It was a joke, but while were at is most of the comments from Habs fans so far have been "Biased confirmed". I'm not exactly a Habs fan. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I'm not exactly a Habs fan. I know. I was referring to the "funny comments in here so far" comment by Boobs. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It was a joke, but while were at is most of the comments from Habs fans so far have been "Biased confirmed". my comment was suppose to be a serious one ? well, your sarcasm is as clear as mine Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 my comment was suppose to be a serious one ? well, your sarcasm is as clear as mine It just looked like a "because I disagree they are laughable" Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If you were Montreal, what would you have done then? I'm still curious what your serious answer to this is Kendrick. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I'm still curious what your serious answer to this is Kendrick. Well considering their situation, it sounded like he wanted 8.5 for a short term deal? So it got pushed to 9 Million because of the long-term deal. I honestly don't know if I would've gone with a long term deal at first. Then again I've seen so many 7+ year deals go down the tubes. The last 365 days have proven to me that the number one word in the NHL is "buyout", so I'm weary about signing long deals. I might have just done a short term deal 2-3 years and either talk during that time or get assets out of him at the end. I just simply put don't like high terms and high dollar unless the guy is going to be the premier guy at his position in the league. No guarantees with any player, and thats why I get anxious when seeing long terms (i.e. DiPietro, Luongo, Yashin) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,891 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) And if he gets better...you won't get anywhere near the assets to replace him after you burn the bridge. Edited August 4, 2014 by Advantage Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 And if he gets better...you won't get anywhere near the assets to replace him after you burn the bridge. Of course not. I just look at the last 2-3 years of deals and see long term deals eventually being bought out, thats why I'm hesitant to say any deal is good on a long term. Hell the Devils just resigned Andy Greene and I don't like the value or length. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I'm not going to lie Kendrick, I agree with most of what you're saying, but putting Luongo in the same category as DiPietro and Yashin is retarded. I'm probably bias, but in no way does Luongo's play and league status have anything to do with those two when bringing up long term contracts and guys not playing as their expected. I put him in there because of long contracts not so much level of play. He was great, management was the reason he was shipped out of town not his play. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 hate the habs but subban signing was a good move for them. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-102869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Money Mayweather 7 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Stamkos > Crosby Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,891 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 Stamkos > Crosby No. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 Teows>Crosby and this is actually debatable now. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Teows>Crosby and this is actually debatable now. You mean Toews. I agree its debatable. I value Johnny boy more because of his leadership and two-way game. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 saaawwwwwweeeyyyyy typo Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Toews isnt even close to crosby lel Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Toews isnt even close to crosby lel Is it because of the fact his offensive production isn't as good? The man with two rings disagrees with the value he brings according to you. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Is it because of the fact his offensive production isn't as good? The man with two rings disagrees with the value he brings according to you. Stanley Cups (and championships in general) are such a stupid argument when talking about individual achievement, especially in a team sport like hockey. Tyler 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Stanley Cups (and championships in general) are such a stupid argument when talking about individual achievement, especially in a team sport like hockey. Of course. But Toews defensive game is ahead of Crosby by far. Sidney may be ahead in the offensive side but when their value is compared, it's hard to notice who is better. Toews is a better leader, as he is respected league wide like Yzerman was. Crosby however is seen as a crybaby by half the league. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta 5 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 You know, I used to love the Crosby-Ovechkin debates because they were the two best players in the league for a while and it would constantly change between who was the better player. I just don't get these Crosby-Toews arguments though because everyone seems to think that Toews' defensive play outweighs Crosby's offensive play, when that's not true at all. I mean Toews isn't even the best two-way forward according to the NHL Writers. While Crosby was clearly the best offensive player and the MVP of the league. And the leadership stuff is bs. You guys have no idea of who's the better leader in the locker room, plus, Crosby's been the captain of the Penguins since he was 19, so there's obviously some good leadership with him (same with Toews, they're both great young leaders, it's just that you have no idea who the significantly better leader is in the room). The cups argument is pointless when you look at the Penguins bottom six and as-core compared to Chicago's these past few years. And Crosby has a cup! Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Crosby-Toews argument is just an excuse for the Crosby haters to hate on him some more and downgrade his success. Like I don't even see Toews as the second best player, when you got guys like Malkin and Stamkos. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 ^ this Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/71/#findComment-103697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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