Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted October 1, 2013 Commissioner Share Posted October 1, 2013 I'm just going to put this in the thunderdome in case it gets messy, plus i don't feel like making the on topic forums and don't think it's really an announcement. I want to preface this with the fact that I'm not giving up on getting our data back, I don't think anyone is. However, hypothetically speaking, what course of action should we take assuming we can't get our topics / sim files back? The way I look at it we'd have a few major options if this were the case: 1) Keep the same teams / GM's and run a fantasy draft with everyone updated based on stats in the sim plus maybe like 25-30 to cover on average what was lost during the off-season. Everyone would, essentially, keep their same player but the whole league would be re-worked as a form of fresh start. 2) Slightly less radical approach, we keep everything the same, update players to what the sim had them at, and restart the off-season so that people have a chance to get back on track. Then we just go from there. Our records will essentially be gone but we could keep going without them. 3) Clean slate. It's radical but we would basically clean everything out (Keep the teams to avoid re-doing logos, maybe keep the GM's) and everyone re-creates a new player. Give carry-over based on what they last had in the sim (maybe just a set percentage rather than a per season thing) and effectively start the VHL from ground zero. Honestly, I don't like any of the options and this is hopefully going to remain hypothetical but what are peoples thoughts / opinions on what we should do if the worst case happens and we in fact lose everything from the new site? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted October 1, 2013 Admin Share Posted October 1, 2013 2. maybe even with some amendments and an honour system. no reason to restart. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Commissioner Share Posted October 1, 2013 2. maybe even with some amendments and an honour system. no reason to restart. For the record I agree with 2 as well, it's the least radical, I was just bringing up the other two to see if anyone had some positive discussions about a fresh or semi fresh start out of this mishap. Personally I do believe that we're best off just getting things as close as they were. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corco 1,237 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Two is the best solution if we don't get the data back. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Personally I like 2 but wouldnt mind the others. sterling 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 screw lets do 1 cause we all know we want to! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Is there a none option? For the second option you have to remember Players that didn't get into the playoffs would be at a huge disadvantage. It's honestly got to be on the honor system, cause I know personally I wouldn't be happy losing over 100TPE over this, which over 60% was media spots I wrote but wasn't VHL updated as the North American VHLM conference wasn't updated for over a month. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherifflobo 137 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'd say two is the best option, but I wouldn't want to lose all the TPE I was banking (without updating) for depreciation (I think it was like 165 with the player store). I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat as well. Kesler 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,745 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'll reserve judgement until things get this desperate. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I know my exact stats/tpe and banked, and honestly (I know I'm a bitch about this) I won't settle for anything less. So just recover the data somehow Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,359 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I think everyone just wants the league back to normal.. Everyone worked hard on their players and nobody wants to lose TPE. This might be a wake up call as to how we manage our league moving forwards. Maybe the VHL should have a master excel sheet where only updates are allowed to edit.. Hell people could even use separate sheets for their own player updates that is connected to the master sheet, reducing the tedious work of updates to only having to review and approve (rather than copy and pasting everything).. Regardless, I can't see a reboot happening. I don't even want to see it happen... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,745 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 My captain has spoken! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 We arent going to reboot or you wont lose TPE. If anything you will gain some. At this point, people should start making the best estimate possible of what their player was at to start the season. Use the honour system. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 I'm about 99.9% sure where my player was, I just want to get the season underway ASAP. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
probably not noah 346 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Two is the only option. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 For the second option you have to remember Players that didn't get into the playoffs would be at a huge disadvantage. Actually, on the contrary, I updated non-playoff teams for World Cup. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted October 2, 2013 Share Posted October 2, 2013 Actually, on the contrary, I updated non-playoff teams for World Cup. So you updated my player even though my player page wasn't updated since august 28th? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Oh, shit no. Just what was off the player pages. I assumed the updaters update everyone at the same time. Lazy fucks. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Oh, shit no. Just what was off the player pages. I assumed the updaters update everyone at the same time. Lazy fucks. well i assume because I was on Saskatoon, and no one gives any fucks about Saskatoon that's why. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 It's because that gay Jardy lives there tbh Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 westgate inn is quality tho Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted October 3, 2013 Share Posted October 3, 2013 Indeed Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/392-what-if/#findComment-1583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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