JardyB10 4,865 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 I will say though, one thing that's been in my head for probably literally 5 years, and I've been too lazy to explore is this: We tend to recruit in hockey-based communities, in hopes of appealing to people like ourselves. That is, people who like: 1. Hockey 2. Community 3. Roleplay 4. Creative Writing/Graphic Design 5. Game of Thrones Yet probably most people who like hockey and sports aren't huge nerds like us. So wouldn't it be more likely to find VHL members in communities more geared toward roleplaying or creative writing? That would presumably be a place where they're already doing stuff they'd be doing here to earn TPE. Then you'd have to think at least a few of those people are hockey fans, and then suddenly we're a perfect fit! I think I tried looking into that a bit a long time ago, but I think the challenging part with that is, "where do you find such a community?" I don't know, but it wuld be worthwhile looking into, I think. Gudnason 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, JardyB10 said: I will say though, one thing that's been in my head for probably literally 5 years, and I've been too lazy to explore is this: We tend to recruit in hockey-based communities, in hopes of appealing to people like ourselves. That is, people who like: 1. Hockey 2. Community 3. Roleplay 4. Creative Writing/Graphic Design 5. Game of Thrones Yet probably most people who like hockey and sports aren't huge nerds like us. So wouldn't it be more likely to find VHL members in communities more geared toward roleplaying or creative writing? That would presumably be a place where they're already doing stuff they'd be doing here to earn TPE. Then you'd have to think at least a few of those people are hockey fans, and then suddenly we're a perfect fit! I think I tried looking into that a bit a long time ago, but I think the challenging part with that is, "where do you find such a community?" I don't know, but it wuld be worthwhile looking into, I think. You might be on to something! Quick! everyone spam DnD Forums! JardyB10 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, JardyB10 said: I will say though, one thing that's been in my head for probably literally 5 years, and I've been too lazy to explore is this: We tend to recruit in hockey-based communities, in hopes of appealing to people like ourselves. That is, people who like: 1. Hockey 2. Community 3. Roleplay 4. Creative Writing/Graphic Design 5. Game of Thrones Yet probably most people who like hockey and sports aren't huge nerds like us. So wouldn't it be more likely to find VHL members in communities more geared toward roleplaying or creative writing? That would presumably be a place where they're already doing stuff they'd be doing here to earn TPE. Then you'd have to think at least a few of those people are hockey fans, and then suddenly we're a perfect fit! I think I tried looking into that a bit a long time ago, but I think the challenging part with that is, "where do you find such a community?" I don't know, but it wuld be worthwhile looking into, I think. I think one of the main things that turn people off is the fact you have to write an essay a week to stay competitive.... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corco 1,237 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, Beaviss said: I think one of the main things that turn people off is the fact you have to write an essay a week to stay competitive.... Or claim welfare Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Beaviss said: I think one of the main things that turn people off is the fact you have to write an essay a week to stay competitive.... 450 words is hardly an essay... TheLastOlympian07, JardyB10 and Tyler 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 minute ago, punkhippie said: 450 words is hardly an essay... Im not complaining im just saying some people dont find it fun to write some people do. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megster 63 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 So I know some people from SHL came off a hockey fan fiction forum (it was described to me, not sure the link though) and that is very much somewhere we could have success from. And I'm down for more steamy hockey stories coming out the MS sections lmao JardyB10 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Maybe some of the writers on Literotica have a side interest in hockey? Lol no joke I'm going to try to get in touch with MugsyB and/or holter. NSFW https://tags.literotica.com/hockey Edited August 4, 2017 by punkhippie Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megster 63 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 oh my god there is a literotica hockey forum? I am scared but intrigued Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-457943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,049 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Have already tried emailing old members and seen couple come back. Wouldn't hurt to try it again I suppose? Agreed to the Facebook advertising while making it more specified. It gets fairly pricey per day the further in depth you into it (the more you reach, the pricier it is). With that said, I highly doubt we can afford the price it would take to heavily affect the VHL. I'd say find some other sort of alternative. Are we able to throw advertisements up on Youtube? Potentially have them targeting hockey videos or anything fantasy league or sports? What about the STHS Forum and posting an advertisement there? Other hockey forums? I know once upon a time I found a huge list of hockey forums and shit with well over 200,000 members altogether. A couple more to crack out would be: Twitter, any sort of fantasy league or fantasy league news sites, online gaming sites. Post on GOMHL, SHL and other leagues too. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 7 hours ago, Devise said: Indeed. For now it would have to be our own thing. But I mean the history buffs here have been waiting for a place where you can easily go to find a nice categorized and searchable list of some of the history here. The wiki would really allow us to do some of that. And that is something people instantly recognize and trust on the web, even if they know it's user editable there is still is like an element of "oh this is easy to access" that makes this sort of thing engaging for the user imo. There already was one made by Scotty and Nick Barr some time ago Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Banackock said: Have already tried emailing old members and seen couple come back. Wouldn't hurt to try it again I suppose? Agreed to the Facebook advertising while making it more specified. It gets fairly pricey per day the further in depth you into it (the more you reach, the pricier it is). With that said, I highly doubt we can afford the price it would take to heavily affect the VHL. I'd say find some other sort of alternative. Are we able to throw advertisements up on Youtube? Potentially have them targeting hockey videos or anything fantasy league or sports? What about the STHS Forum and posting an advertisement there? Other hockey forums? I know once upon a time I found a huge list of hockey forums and shit with well over 200,000 members altogether. A couple more to crack out would be: Twitter, any sort of fantasy league or fantasy league news sites, online gaming sites. Post on GOMHL, SHL and other leagues too. False, you can set a amount you would like to spend in total. Reach and price are two independent things for Facebook. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, sterling said: There already was one made by Scotty and Nick Barr some time ago http://vhl.wikia.com/wiki/Victory_Hockey_League_Wiki here it is lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 As another point here, historically we haven't had much success recruiting from social media with paid ads. Our best source has always been other forums, but I still think real life posters at hockey rinks, games shops, colleges, etc and selling t-shirts for members to wear in public would be most effective aside from forum recruiting Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,049 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kendrick said: False, you can set a amount you would like to spend in total. Reach and price are two independent things for Facebook. Sure. Then in order to reach a decent amount, the price is fairly significant for days/weeks etc while having the advertisement running. I thought location of the advertisement affected it, but it's been awhile since I tinkered with it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Banackock said: Sure. Then in order to reach a decent amount, the price is fairly significant for days/weeks etc while having the advertisement running. I thought location of the advertisement affected it, but it's been awhile since I tinkered with it. Not if you set it for say $80 over 3 weeks in various different locations, it's still $80. Its what you tag it under in regards to description that matters. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 9 hours ago, Beaviss said: I think random forum posts got most of the newer users here tbh @Kendrick got me via a forum post Kendrick got us from the same place, but like 3 years apart. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,049 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Well, in the recruitment section of the forum I posted a big list of forums we could/should use. Dunno if we could leap out to different sport forums too if we asked the forum for permission? NFL/CFL/NBA forums etc? Never know where we'll find members until we try. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 5 hours ago, punkhippie said: Maybe some of the writers on Literotica have a side interest in hockey? Lol no joke I'm going to try to get in touch with MugsyB and/or holter. NSFW https://tags.literotica.com/hockey Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,049 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 http://hobbyinsider.net/forum/index.php?s=13c6b574d461fd5731ac9c242a6aec5a http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com https://forums.cloutsnchara.com/viewforum.php?f=1 http://www.hockeyforum.com http://www.hockeyfights.com/forums/ http://torontohockey.net/hockey-forums/ https://www.hockeyforums.net http://forums.dobbersports.com http://www.suddendeathhockeyforums.ca/forums/forum.php?s=8c14c85add6103d55d374ade42998401 http://forum.calgarypuck.com http://www.thehockeyforum.co.uk/forum/ https://leftwinglock.com/forum/index.php http://forum.highonhockey.com https://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/index.php Top ten biggest forums on internet (rankings) http://www.thebiggestboards.com DollarAndADream 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,356 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Banackock said: http://hobbyinsider.net/forum/index.php?s=13c6b574d461fd5731ac9c242a6aec5a http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com https://forums.cloutsnchara.com/viewforum.php?f=1 http://www.hockeyforum.com http://www.hockeyfights.com/forums/ http://torontohockey.net/hockey-forums/ https://www.hockeyforums.net http://forums.dobbersports.com http://www.suddendeathhockeyforums.ca/forums/forum.php?s=8c14c85add6103d55d374ade42998401 http://forum.calgarypuck.com http://www.thehockeyforum.co.uk/forum/ https://leftwinglock.com/forum/index.php http://forum.highonhockey.com https://www.ehmtheblueline.com/forums/index.php Top ten biggest forums on internet (rankings) http://www.thebiggestboards.com Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,748 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 11. Pornhub Request Forum gorlab, Corco and JardyB10 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 7 hours ago, BOOM said: 11. Pornhub Request Forum This should really tie in well with the hockey literotica forum. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JardyB10 4,865 Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 17 hours ago, Beaviss said: I think one of the main things that turn people off is the fact you have to write an essay a week to stay competitive.... (I agree that 450 words is hardly an essay) But indeed, even when I joined, as someone who was already doing some casual fake news writing on Facebook for fun, even I was a bit intimidated that I would have to somehow write articles about a league I know nothing about. As a rule I always found people on the Internet to be dicks, so I was almost afraid to post or do anything for a few months to avoid being embarrassed. Hence why finding a place where people ALREADY write short 450+ word things for the entertainment of other Internet strangers might be an effective strategy. Gudnason 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, JardyB10 said: (I agree that 450 words is hardly an essay) But indeed, even when I joined, as someone who was already doing some casual fake news writing on Facebook for fun, even I was a bit intimidated that I would have to somehow write articles about a league I know nothing about. As a rule I always found people on the Internet to be dicks, so I was almost afraid to post or do anything for a few months to avoid being embarrassed. Hence why finding a place where people ALREADY write short 450+ word things for the entertainment of other Internet strangers might be an effective strategy. Or the 450 words could be exchanged for something else less league involved as a rookie? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/42649-more-members-in-the-vhl/page/2/#findComment-458140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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