sterling 1,997 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 29 minutes ago, Higgins said: I don't know of anyone that ever said that. Unless it's in some game thread I missed. Yes that's how I understand it. Someone claimed he was rigging Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, boubabi said: if transparency was key, the BoG and the blue team section would be public which isn't the case Hasn't been much to see Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 can't argue with that. My point being, the commish's future isn't something we need to be passive about, as it's the foundation of the league's decision. We were unfortunate to loose 2 very competent commish in draper and smarch, but shit goes on, and so the vhl. Maybe the list of possible commish isn't long, but a decision needs to be made for the present, and the future of the league Please, at least choose someone who does point tasks weekly Da Trifecta and Gudnason 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I'll jump up and do things if you guys want and trust me. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, boubabi said: can't argue with that. My point being, the commish's future isn't something we need to be passive about, as it's the foundation of the league's decision. We were unfortunate to loose 2 very competent commish in draper and smarch, but shit goes on, and so the vhl. Maybe the list of possible commish isn't long, but a decision needs to be made for the present, and the future of the league Please, at least choose someone who does point tasks weekly Agree with the quote it shouldn't be something we are passive about. I add my name to the list, even thought it might be at the bottom of the list and scratched off Banackock 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 59 minutes ago, Higgins said: Smarch is gone and I'm afraid I'm part of the reason he has left. I wish he would come back, but we need at least two new commissioner now. I've only offered my services I don't know how many times to you guys but for some reason get constantly denied with basically no response or feedback. It's not like replacements haven't stepped up in the BoG and stated several times over the last 6 months that we'd like to help out, just organize the shit and put us in a position to do so. We either get told we are stepping on toes if we try to tackle something, like recently with the Anderson situation, or other types of feedback/complaints sometimes just go unnoticed. Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 just my 2 cent here, but maybe because of your fragile vhl interest you would be a very good ''people's''' commish, but I think the commish job is beyond relation with members Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, boubabi said: just my 2 cent here, but maybe because of your fragile vhl interest you would be a very good ''people's''' commish, but I think the commish job is beyond relation with members That sounds like me! Well the opposite, which is what the league seems to need. Edited September 12, 2017 by punkhippie Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 more like Mao Zedong, amirite Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, boubabi said: just my 2 cent here, but maybe because of your fragile vhl interest you would be a very good ''people's''' commish, but I think the commish job is beyond relation with members But I shouldn't be treated as "the savior" or the one commish to come in and do everything. The commish team has always been too small for my liking. The closest we got to it being at a state I liked was when Flyers, Higgins, Draper, Jardy, and Sterling were all monitoring and doing things. Privately members like Advantage, myself and Beketov have stated interest in simming, or otherwise helping the Blue Team do heavy lifting. We used to never have issues hiring multiple commishs at a time, but now it seems to be so hush hush. I don't know if that is a byproduct of some sort of member bias, or if it's just the reailty of Higgins being busy doing most of it himself, especially behind the scenes, and Jardy obviously in more of a pure simmer role most of the time. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, boubabi said: more like Mao Zedong, amirite "Vote" Punkhippie 2017 (dictatorship style do it @Higgins make me your right hand man) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 don't think there's a necessity for 5 commish. 2 would do the trick. I would rather have that and put more power into the BoG Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) What does the BOG even do? No offence. Why don't we have a vote for the commish? BOG puts up 5 names who are interested and we the people vote on it? Edited September 12, 2017 by Beaviss Spade18 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 What does the donation money do, how about that Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 we decide which kind of soft drink there will be at the reunions Spade18 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gudnason 607 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, boubabi said: we decide which kind of soft drink there will be at the reunions BBT @ Corner 23! @tfong Baozi 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 the BoG is only used for propositiosn that will be ignored for 5 to 8 seasons until some random respected dude propose the same thing and get the fame for being the genius behind it Gudnason 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted September 12, 2017 Commissioner Share Posted September 12, 2017 39 minutes ago, boubabi said: can't argue with that. My point being, the commish's future isn't something we need to be passive about, as it's the foundation of the league's decision. We were unfortunate to loose 2 very competent commish in draper and smarch, but shit goes on, and so the vhl. Maybe the list of possible commish isn't long, but a decision needs to be made for the present, and the future of the league Please, at least choose someone who does point tasks weekly Are you ignoring my most recent campaign? Bek4Builder and Bek4BoG both worked so why not Bek4Blue? Like Devise said, I don't think making it out that no one is willing is entirely accurate. @punkhippie is right, commish and GM are about the only things I've never done and personally I'd be open to the challenge of the Blue Team. At the end of the day whether we hire 1 commish or 4 (though we do need at least 2 IMO) the key is going to be getting people who will stick around and be trustworthy. Outside of that the most important thing is doing it quickly because @Higgins can't be expected to do everything himself. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 well, we aren't the one the choose, as it's not a popularity vote. Chemistry between the commies is key, so that decision is really up to higgins at this point Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,899 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Throw it to @Beketov and @Devise. Hell if they are willing, just change the permissions and move on with it. Fuck this playing with our minds of who will it be and such. Beketov has been a day 1 guy. Give it to him. Devise was the go to guy for what the BoG did. Unless any other BoG members step up, why not? They both have my vote. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 devise is as active as jericho though Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,899 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Just now, boubabi said: devise is as active as jericho though I am fairly certain if it came down to it and he was to step into the role, he would come back. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 not quite sure it works that way. I wouldn't hire a guy based off "maybe he will come back" Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Well if the BOG needs ideas I got a ton I've put a couple of them past respected members usually they can find a hole it my idea but if anyone wants ideas let me know Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,899 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 1 minute ago, boubabi said: not quite sure it works that way. I wouldn't hire a guy based off "maybe he will come back" It's not really a maybe but more so of a certainty. Devise 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/43910-the-elephant-in-the-room/page/2/#findComment-469163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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