BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Bushito said: I haven’t gone soft, I won’t draft a rival AGM to be my future goaltender. All that points to in my opinion is that player will look to take over a rival teams full time GM position in the future and likely force me into a trade. There are multiple goalie options out there including me making Stopko 2.0 Enjoy Davison @Poptart then, really didn’t think this would be an issue. guess I’m recreating then..fml Edited December 13, 2018 by BladeMaiden Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilmandan 688 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I'll play anywhere. Whoever has the deepest pockets and loosest women Enorama and BladeMaiden 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso2264 774 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 @oilmandan knows how this works lol oilmandan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BladeMaiden said: Enjoy Davison @Poptart then, really didn’t think this would be an issue. guess I’m recreating then..fml Neither did I Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, BladeMaiden said: Enjoy Davison @Poptart then, really didn’t think this would be an issue. I have nothing against you Blade, I think you are a top notch member and had hoped to have you as the future of Calgary. If you had contacted me I would have gladly made you AGM after drafting you. I think naming AGMs before they’re drafted should be cheating imo. Thinking I wouldn’t care if the future of my franchise was recruiting for a rival would be cool was a little weird. I mean you have no affiliation to the bigs at all, like the guys that run the league said, it’ll be allowed this time but it won’t in the future, declaring for teams pre-draft is silly oilmandan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Also this should disallow Quebec from drafting blades player Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 This got blown way out of proportion. oilmandan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, McWolf said: This got blown way out of proportion. I agree Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570422 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bushito said: Also this should disallow Quebec from drafting blades player Dont worry i have no intent in burying her as a backup Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I name Advantage co-GM of Calgary, all good now. Bahahaha Sova, BladeMaiden and oilmandan 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, Bushito said: I have nothing against you Blade, I think you are a top notch member and had hoped to have you as the future of Calgary. If you had contacted me I would have gladly made you AGM after drafting you. I think naming AGMs before they’re drafted should be cheating imo. Thinking I wouldn’t care if the future of my franchise was recruiting for a rival would be cool was a little weird. I mean you have no affiliation to the bigs at all, like the guys that run the league said, it’ll be allowed this time but it won’t in the future, declaring for teams pre-draft is silly 12 hours ago, Bushito said: Also this should disallow Quebec from drafting blades player No offence I’ve been busting my ass to be Calgary ready all season And in this conversation i have basically learned that you won’t be drafting me and you don’t think that Quebec should either. So you want me to wait in a bench somewhere and never play basically because I decided to have some fun and take on an even more active role in the league. I really didn’t think I would be shooting myself in the foot by taking this position but i guess it is what it is. Edited December 14, 2018 by BladeMaiden Nykonax, Beaviss and McWolf 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,022 Posted December 13, 2018 Commissioner Share Posted December 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, Bushito said: Separated GM from team? In what way? Did I miss something major here, I am in school now so I may have Not major just an option. Let’s say, for the sake of example, that I took over GMing Calgary right now. One of my options would be to leave Canmore (I think that’s your GM player correct?) as the GM player and not create one for myself or trade for Thompson. It’s not directly removed because the options are still there and likely more popular but it’s an option. Bushito 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Bushito said: I name Advantage co-GM of Calgary, all good now. Bahahaha How is that supposed to even change a thing? He could still be drafted to either Davos or New York or whoever gets the 1st pick and still do a well job with you on the side. And if he ever wants to be traded to Calgary so his player and AGM are on the same team, the team that drafts him could still get good value for me. Beaviss 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,022 Posted December 13, 2018 Commissioner Share Posted December 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bushito said: like the guys that run the league said, it’ll be allowed this time but it won’t in the future, declaring for teams pre-draft is silly FWIW I never said we’d never allow it, just that we’d like to be able to approve of the member being chosen. No different than when a GM is stepping down and we approve of their replacement. It is being blown out of proportion for sure but it is a bit of a weird situation. I was fine with a VHL AGM when Quik mentioned that it was being asked for but was confused when I say that it was a player who wasn’t drafted yet. It’s not that it’s a huge deal, it just could potentially sway the draft unfairly as I mentioned. No guarantee it would but it COULD. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaiden 1,807 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Beketov said: It’s not that it’s a huge deal, it just could potentially sway the draft unfairly as I mentioned. No guarantee it would but it COULD. Pretty sure when @Bushito takes Davison over me we can consider this draft swayed... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, McWolf said: How is that supposed to even change a thing? He could still be drafted to either Davos or New York or whoever gets the 1st pick and still do a well job with you on the side. And if he ever wants to be traded to Calgary so his player and AGM are on the same team, the team that drafts him could still get good value for me. Essentially if I talked to advantage ahead of the draft and made him AGM it virtually guarantees he is coming to me for free after his 3 seasons. You see a problem with that or no? The problem is compounded with new members. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Bushito said: Essentially if I talked to advantage ahead of the draft and made him AGM it virtually guarantees he is coming to me for free after his 3 seasons. You see a problem with that or no? The problem is compounded with new members. That happens all the time when you scout new players so far this draft ive been told by two players id want that they only really want to play for 2 team and im not one of them. How would this change anything? in the grand scheme of things. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, BladeMaiden said: Pretty sure when @Bushito takes Davison over me we can consider this draft swayed... Pretty sure I won’t draft a goalie and just create one now, consider the league and it’s enjoyment swayed tbqh Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Bushito said: Essentially if I talked to advantage ahead of the draft and made him AGM it virtually guarantees he is coming to me for free after his 3 seasons. You see a problem with that or no? The problem is compounded with new members. I mean, if it's done with the intention of getting the player after 3 years, sure, it could be viewed as tampering. It doesn't seem like it's gonna be the case here, though. Quebec still got Iseult for a while, they won't need Wahl unless there's a change in backup goalie rules. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Baozi 1,658 Posted December 13, 2018 Moderator Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) Remove GM players and this never is a thought. Tzuyu would play for an Asian team only if that was an option. Edited December 13, 2018 by tfong Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enorama 2,038 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, Bushito said: Essentially if I talked to advantage ahead of the draft and made him AGM it virtually guarantees he is coming to me for free after his 3 seasons. You see a problem with that or no? The problem is compounded with new members. How is that virtually guaranteed? I totally get where you're coming from but even after a short conversation with Blade you would understand that she doesn't have a bone in her body that would do something like that for the sake of doing it. Imo the manager and the player should be kept totally separate as characters. The GM player hasn't seemed to have much reasoning behind it that I've seen. BladeMaiden 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso2264 774 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 wtf did this turn into Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, McWolf said: I mean, if it's done with the intention of getting the player after 3 years, sure, it could be viewed as tampering. It doesn't seem like it's gonna be the case here, though. Quebec still got Iseult for a while, they won't need Wahl unless there's a change in backup goalie rules. And the day Iseult gets to the point hyper active Blade is near his APE she takes off to Quebec. It’s a massive risk I’m not willing to take. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McWolf 3,115 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Stop creating goalies, people, the 8 GM players will be goalies 2 seasons from now. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 1 minute ago, McWolf said: Stop creating goalies, people, the 8 GM players will be goalies 2 seasons from now. Ill never create a goalie so count that as 7 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/56023-quebec-meute-management-announcement/page/2/#findComment-570446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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