eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 @GustavMattias can you confirm if the mafia is allowed to attack the town traitor, or if they are blocked from doing so? If mafia is not allowed to attack the town traitor then @BarzalGoat is definitely not town traitor. In that case he should remain alive in order to give town an extra vote Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 UNVOTE DEVISE IF you are town unvote Devise. we don't want a situation where Spartan is the only killing with 2 people left myself and him. 1 minute ago, Spartan said: the plan is you, ferk, eagles, z16, and barzal suiciding into RJ, and devise will be hung today. that would mean that omg (if I don't exe him), me, and RJ would be alive tomorrow. if any of you 5 don't suicide into RJ, we have our TT. Otherwise, then RJ is our TT. I don't love the idea of Spartan being able to be alone with me tomorrow. I know I'm not TT. I don't know if Spartan is TT. I think he is good but idk. Personally I hope that one of the 5 of @a_Ferk, @BarzalGoat, @eaglesfan036, @Nykonax,@Z16 are the TT b/c if they don't come visit they are evil. @a_Ferk, @BarzalGoat, @eaglesfan036, @Nykonax,@Z16 As a reminder if you don't come you are either TT or throwing. if you are really town and don't come you threw the game for us.The TT has played really townie this game and honestly I'm not sure we can pinpoint them by their actions. Spartan, Devise, OMG, Myself will be left over You can think I'm TT if you like but this idea is one of the best to actually find the TT. Which do you think the TT would actually bring this forward? if so 1000 iq play right there but i don't have that kind of iq. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 @rjfryman - read above. Spartan won't be alone with you tomorrow if we let barzal live. I don't think Barzal is TT Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,410 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Still not sure why my allegiance to town is being questioned. Can anyone bring up a situation where my actions impacted the town in a negative manner? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Devise has been spewing BS with no logic behind it the entire game so I am 100% keeping my vote on him Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, eaglesfan036 said: @rjfryman - read above. Spartan won't be alone with you tomorrow if we let barzal live. I don't think Barzal is TT not to be that guy but with 39 pages. who says he was attacked? how did he survive? did we ever have a spy to confirm he was visited. I cannot be sertain but our spy was actually maf. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,410 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, rjfryman said: not to be that guy but with 39 pages. who says he was attacked? how did he survive? did we ever have a spy to confirm he was visited. I cannot be sertain but our spy was actually maf. nyko said he healed him, and both of them are still alive. no chance that they're both TT Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, rjfryman said: not to be that guy but with 39 pages. who says he was attacked? how did he survive? did we ever have a spy to confirm he was visited. I cannot be sertain but our spy was actually maf. Barzal was attacked by mafia and said he was healed. Nyko said he healed him. Both of them can't be working together as mafia as only one is left. End of story Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Also I think Aferk tracked nyko into Barzal Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768080 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Spartan said: Still not sure why my allegiance to town is being questioned. Can anyone bring up a situation where my actions impacted the town in a negative manner? personally i think early on the mafia told the TT to be as townie as possible. Thats what I would do. with zero deaths d1 and mafia/TT being able to talk in discord together the whole time, I can easily see them realizing ohh shit we might all die. So to me allegiance doesn't mean much without facts. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, eaglesfan036 said: Barzal was attacked by mafia and said he was healed. Nyko said he healed him. Both of them can't be working together as mafia as only one is left. End of story ok cool thats fine by me. why would they cover for each other when there is only 1 TT. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, rjfryman said: personally i think early on the mafia told the TT to be as townie as possible. Thats what I would do. with zero deaths d1 and mafia/TT being able to talk in discord together the whole time, I can easily see them realizing ohh shit we might all die. So to me allegiance doesn't mean much without facts. Spartan is definitely not the TT. As I said above, he would have certainly helped the mafia prepare some better tactics then revealing the witch and given Berocka a better defense Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 VOTE DEVISE Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,410 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, rjfryman said: personally i think early on the mafia told the TT to be as townie as possible. Thats what I would do. with zero deaths d1 and mafia/TT being able to talk in discord together the whole time, I can easily see them realizing ohh shit we might all die. So to me allegiance doesn't mean much without facts. So you don't actually have any facts that I'm not town, despite executing the witch, pushing Flex, pushing Berocka, and pushing Doom despite people complaining about the way myself and eagles were pushing people up for claims. You were one of the more vocal folks against the way I was managing town, if I remember correctly, but I could be wrong. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Also, anyone who "forgets" to make their night action on RJ tomorrow has no exceptions, they will be hung or executed. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, eaglesfan036 said: Spartan is definitely not the TT. As I said above, he would have certainly helped the mafia prepare some better tactics then revealing the witch and given Berocka a better defense Again I don't love that logic. If mafia and TT were smart and saw early mafia deaths this could be a plan. but with Barzal not coming to my party it would still give us numbers. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Spartan said: So you don't actually have any facts that I'm not town, despite executing the witch, pushing Flex, pushing Berocka, and pushing Doom despite people complaining about the way myself and eagles were pushing people up for claims. You were one of the more vocal folks against the way I was managing town, if I remember correctly, but I could be wrong. im sorry but have you heard of busing? in TT that is a common tactic Do i want you to be TT no. Do i want to make sure you are not the last person with me and I cannot do anything about it yes. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,410 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, rjfryman said: Again I don't love that logic. If mafia and TT were smart and saw early mafia deaths this could be a plan. but with Barzal not coming to my party it would still give us numbers. There weren't early mafia deaths though, just an unlucky n1. Witch got called out after n2, and then flex got pushed up soon after. Just now, rjfryman said: im sorry but have you heard of busing? in TT that is a common tactic Do i want you to be TT no. Do i want to make sure you are not the last person with me and I cannot do anything about it yes. Well, honestly, I've never played a game of TT in ToS. However, I trust myself a lot more than I trust you, so I'd rather be able to take you out if you're the TT and just killed off every other town member. I already know that if there's another town member living tomorrow apart from just me and you, you're going to try to spin the narrative that I'm the TT, despite not having done anything to indicate as such. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Spartan said: There weren't early mafia deaths though, just an unlucky n1. Witch got called out after n2, and then flex got pushed up soon after. Well, honestly, I've never played a game of TT in ToS. However, I trust myself a lot more than I trust you, so I'd rather be able to take you out if you're the TT and just killed off every other town member. I already know that if there's another town member living tomorrow apart from just me and you, you're going to try to spin the narrative that I'm the TT, despite not having done anything to indicate as such. That would be because you are TT. Just saying. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,410 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, rjfryman said: That would be because you are TT. Just saying. Your continuous push that I am TT makes you look a lot more suspicious than I am. If I didn't want to lower town members, I'd be executing you tonight. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spartan said: There weren't early mafia deaths though, just an unlucky n1. Witch got called out after n2, and then flex got pushed up soon after. Well, honestly, I've never played a game of TT in ToS. However, I trust myself a lot more than I trust you, so I'd rather be able to take you out if you're the TT and just killed off every other town member. I already know that if there's another town member living tomorrow apart from just me and you, you're going to try to spin the narrative that I'm the TT, despite not having done anything to indicate as such. honestly if its me you and barzel then you are 100% the tt. and I will fight 100% to show that you are the TT. I hope that the bow is nice and simple in that we don't have to worry about that since there will be someone who doesn't come to my party. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,410 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, rjfryman said: honestly if its me you and barzel then you are 100% the tt. and I will fight 100% to show that you are the TT. I hope that the bow is nice and simple in that we don't have to worry about that since there will be someone who doesn't come to my party. If it's me, you, and barzal, then it's clear you're the TT lol. you hinted at being a very important role before finally claiming veteran and were never attacked before that despite your claims of being too important to kill. You've argued against the collective town decisions in the past few days, and have generally stirred up issues when they've been unfounded. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, Spartan said: Your continuous push that I am TT makes you look a lot more suspicious than I am. If I didn't want to lower town members, I'd be executing you tonight. Im not pushing you as TT im am simply saying that if we don't find them I want to make sure you cannot steal the victory. I waited and hoped real hard that Maf would not attack me and I kept my alert. This is the only thing I can do, I can lower the numbers to make it easy. Personally I think the TT might be Nyko b/c he healed barzel. why would he heal Barzel? WHY WOULD DOC HEAL THE LO? unless he wants to be a confirmed heal. b/c he knew he would be attacked. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,410 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Just now, rjfryman said: Im not pushing you as TT im am simply saying that if we don't find them I want to make sure you cannot steal the victory. I waited and hoped real hard that Maf would not attack me and I kept my alert. This is the only thing I can do, I can lower the numbers to make it easy. Personally I think the TT might be Nyko b/c he healed barzel. why would he heal Barzel? WHY WOULD DOC HEAL THE LO? unless he wants to be a confirmed heal. b/c he knew he would be attacked. Yeah, I definitely hope that it's one of the visiting folks, and that is a bit sketch considering we had a plan. However, if it comes down to me, you and barzal, you are definitely the TT. eaglesfan036 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjfryman 1,120 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Spartan said: If it's me, you, and barzal, then it's clear you're the TT lol. you hinted at being a very important role before finally claiming veteran and were never attacked before that despite your claims of being too important to kill. You've argued against the collective town decisions in the past few days, and have generally stirred up issues when they've been unfounded. I was attacked I took out the SK. My important role was to be a traget by mafia. why would i fight so hard to trick mafia to kill me for them to never be able to do anything. Also i want to just have my bases covered. I don't want to be alone with you b/c you are the last tk outside of me. a 1v1 would always go to you. idk why you think that would benefit me. I think I know who TT is but I think my plan of party is still the best. b/c we will see that NYKO will not come to my lovely party. Spartan 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/87616-town-of-salem-8/page/39/#findComment-768105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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