Spartan

Cheers Beav, won't forget my first day when I hopped in a VC with you where you were stoned as fuck and called me Saturn for the next week. Had a good time with you in vc's and around the league, wishing the best and that you find that passion again. VHL wouldn't be where it is today without you bud.

bust @NickSunderbruch lmfao what you doing baby

We're two great representatives of that statement! We've had a shit ton of opportunities in this league because we've worked for it and kept applying even after we got rejected the first time. We've all been rejected plenty of times, just gotta keep applying for anything and everything.

We've been having a fun discussion and looking back through history since the start of S75 to see if vets are actually taking opportunities from first-gens/newer members. From S75 (or whenever @Hex Universe joined the league) to today, we've recorded 18 hirings to VHL/VHLM GM/AGM positions. We made a nice breakdown of how it shapes up: VHL GM: 1 First-Gen - Hylands 1 Veteran - Ricer (2nd player about to get drafted) VHL AGM: 5 First-Gens - MattyIce, Ledge, Brewins, Selsby, Domg 1 Vet - Poptart VHL GM: 3 First-Gens: Rory, Zetterberg, Thad 2 Vets: ADV, IR VHLM AGM: 6 First-Gens: Hex, Juice, Tina, Selsby x2 (yeesh this man be zooming around), Prout for a brief stint. Total breakdown, from S75 onwards, 15 out of 19 GM/AGM hirings have been First-Gens. I really, really do not think this is cause for concern lol.

The "newer members should get M GM jobs over vets" take is an interesting one, one that I can kinda see both sides of. I think recent hiring history shows that the M has not shied away from hiring first-gens as GM's. Myself, Ricer, Hylands, Thad, Rory and Zetterberg are just a few of the first-gen hires that we've had recently (past 5-6 seasons). At the same time, I don't think a newer member should have some kind of priority over an M job than a veteran user. Being an M GM is not easy, because most of what we do has to retain folks and teach them as well. I don't think it's wise to just be setting M jobs for first-gens and VHL jobs for veterans, because both leagues have vastly different requirements and day to day tasks for the GM's. I don't know if I'd even call the VHLM GM position an entry level job because it's a massive undertaking that gets far less recognition than it does. But I digress. With that being said, I think we should focus more on the AGM positions and getting new members into those positions so that they receive the exposure and experience they can then translate into going for a GM job at either level. I think that's the real entry-level job that we should actively be trying to give to newer users. AGM's directly learn and develop the skills needed to be a GM at the respective level, or even just get some experience in management. At the end of the day though, IR and ADV are active and passionate users who will do very well at their jobs in the M, and I'm looking forward to working with them!

plenty

They need 4, so unless Mike decides to screw the town for the 2nd time lol, we're going to have a lovely standoff. @Caboose30 might as well vote for Gus since we'll have the votes to get it done.

I don't know if they have the votes needed? It's 2 maf and the SK voting for me, the three town are not voting for me. Do they need 5 votes?

Well I got my confirmation message. Not my problem if Eagles didn't give it to you since he can't say anything about it now. But an awfully convenient time to have a game-breaking error.

Well he better hope he can swing Mike tomorrow. It's either a guaranteed loss if Gus doesn't die today, or a sliver of hope tomorrow if he can swing Mike.

I mean, Caboose can't win if GF doesn't get lynched, he'll just get outvoted. Plus Mike got helped by Jericho sure, but he killed one of ours. He got his win, now he's going to replace the town vote he so brutally manipulated into oblivion. Also Mike = league buddy so . Do a bro a solid.

quiet you, we can just disregard Gus and Ricer for the rest of this game, they'll be dead within the next cycle

oh and VOTE GUS

Anyways, lynch Gus today, I shoot Ricer tonight since he'll just be a mafioso with no defense, lynch Caboose tomorrow. @Mike you won the game by killing off one of our town members, I expect your vote with the remaining town member tomorrow.

I did, defense was too high.

Can't say enough good things about this hiring. You deserve this shot @Hex Universe, and I'm sure you'll do great things! Best of luck with this WJC, I may have to break away from Canada to root for you!

Need to know basis. Also Jericho could be the Consort, Gus is most definitely a killing mafia member since we can't have two vets. Who was the one who saw Jericho visiting someone? Need to know if it was a real TI.

can confirm was roleblocked

I'll pass on potentially getting murked. As for my claim, you and others now have it which means I can't be the godfather, it doesn't fit in with an invest's results. Seems better to lynch one of the two Vet claims instead, since it's a unique role. If we lynch the real vet, then we know exactly who was lying . If you lynch me tomorrow, then you've basically handcuffed yourself for the rest of the game.

Neither are confirmed, maybe patience is a virtue.

Ok, then just do one TI. Tracker would show that I didn't visit anyone. Sheriff would get not sus. Invest would get some fun results lol.

Clarification: I'd prefer a sheriff/tracker combo

If we even have a tracker anymore, toss them on me. Invest me or w/e, I don't really care. I've been at home the past two nights and have literally not done anything so......cheers. Hope our many, many TI can prove me innocent tonight!

VOTE DEVISE