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Definitely an important point. I think that this could definitely happen, and likely already does happen. For anyone who doesn't know, I spent my entire first player on welfare, and the occasional press conference and trivia. I was a goalie, and so as a welfare goalie I didn't get a lot of playing time. This was pre-hybrid era and pre-VHLE, during the S75 boom. I think why I did what I did, beyond just being nervous to post, was that I was fine being a depth player, much like Nyko said earlier in the thread, and so earning half as much as everyone else was fine, I wasn't super invested and I just wanted to see how it went. I got to 687 TPE I believe. Now, as a VHLM GM, and a TPE addict, I get to watch first-hand how players grow and how they develop. One philosophy I have carried with me since I first heard it a couple years ago is this: "A game encourages, that which it rewards" Obviously not everyone can/should be a star in this league. We tried that one, no one had fun. But now we have this mass of players that I'd put in the 650-950 TPE range that all just feel "okay". A semi-consistent welfare earner like myself back in the day would have peaked at roughly "okay", meanwhile a lot of players submitting PTs and that will also end up being "okay". If our goal is forum content and community, then we need to reward those who contribute to it, at a significantly higher standard than those who don't. Welfare is great for getting people into the VHL, I think it is amazing. But should we not be encouraging people to want to earn better? Should we not want people to feel as though if they just do this little press conference they'll be able to compete with their peers? So many people have complained about IA bloat this week, and gustav said something somewhere about recruitment's job being not necessarily to increase our community's size, but to maintain it. My goal as a VHLM GM is to encourage my players to earn to the best of their ability without burning out, and contribute to our community. They shouldn't have to spend the first 3-4 seasons of their careers fighting to be any better than the average welfare earner in order to have fun. And welfare earners should feel pressure to better their player and contribute more to the forum, because as most of us know, that is the most rewarding part of the VHL. I want to see those being active members in our community rewarded at a high enough rate that they feel as though their efforts were worth it when it comes to sim time. Whether that is a cap boost, or a welfare nerf, or a second look at the TPE Scale, I don't know but you're right there is a huge lump of active earners wading through IAs and welfare players that likely feel discouraged. As a final note, I want to flip the quoted section back on you, not in an aggressive way or anything, because I think you're correct, but the opposite is also true at least in my opinion. "hey, this dude isn't really getting any better. Everyone around him is just as good as I am. What's the point of earning if this guy isn't going to turn into anything special?" Thanks for the post you made earlier and the comment here in this thread, I think they're important conversations to have regardless of how we stand on them.

I think this statement is actually exactly why I said what I said, and its useful to think about from both sides. As someone who earns every morsel of TPE possible, I am also spending a week's worth of TPE to sim-wise at least, achieve nothing. And maybe that's all it boils down to for me, is that my player has reached that point where if I'm lucky and all the decimals are just right for me I can increase 2 attribute points in a week. Usually it's 0-1. If careers were longer and we were looking at like 15 season careers then maybe the difference would feel more substantial, but as is, it doesn't exactly feel like anyone is increasing at any rate that makes them significantly better than anyone else. Those 650-950 peak players are all roughly the same strength, and it takes being a freak of nature to become a sustainable star in the VHL. I really do think those who have done their time and maybe don't have the time/drive/whatever anymore to max earn anymore should still be able to enjoy the thing they love without feeling guilty about not pumping out content or balancing 7 jobs anymore to do it. Maybe 3 isn't the number, maybe it stays at 5 i don't know but I think a lot of people miss feeling like we can be good again? There has to be some sort of middle ground between everyone scoring 100 points and whatever we have now. (maybe i'm just salty my player sucks right now? who knows, but glad we can discuss it)

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I think I fall as someone who is pro-VHLE and also pro-welfare player while also agreeing that the welfare program is now too strong for the hybrid era. We should not limit membership to only people willing to give their lives to the VHL, because that isn't everyone's priority in life, it's literally a hobby. But, considering how easy it is to show up, click welfare and PF, ask for some trivia answers and write a few maybe sentence long answers and get 2/3 the TPE of a capped TPE player, it makes it difficult to really reward players for creating good forum content. Given that our TPE is roughly half as valuable as it was before the hybrid era, the difference between 6-8TPE and 12TPE is very small, especially since uncapped TPE opportunities continue to be squashed. I am a firm believer that you should get out what you put into something, and so I agree that the most active, and the best-earning players should have higher roles on the team, and as a VHLM GM especially that is what I aim to do. This isn't really something that can be ENFORCED, and therefore no rule change really affects this, but flooding the VHLM with 400 TPE players, active or not, only makes the 30TPE players look and feel even worse than they already do against 200TPE players. The VHLE serves as a natural resting place for those who don't earn that well, and really only doesn't work for those who earn well. Hence the new 300 Call-Up rule. I am pro-nerfing Welfare, out of respect for my forum content creators, and I think 2 Welfare, 3 Pension works well. This means a maxing welfare earner gets 8 capped, and I would propose a maxing pension could get 9. This still rewards our veteran members, leaves us with nice clean numbers and rewards those who are doing PT. Welfare players would naturally settle into depth roles, earning less TPE and would peak in the VHLE, not affecting our top earners at all, as they would be called up at 300. Making the VHL then becomes a privilige, not a right, but all players get to play in a league suited to their earnings.

Player Name: Landon Wolanin Player Render: Christian Wolanin or Mark Stone Team: Calgary Wranglers

1. Landon Wolanin II 2. My player is doing... great. 3. Saku Kotkakoivu 4. For London, D for sure. For Calgary probably a top D, a future G and some prospect wingers. 5. At this rate probably not. 6. Free Pizza

What an amazing goalie class! Would have been an honour to work with any of you this season!

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Hopefully you can get the opportunity to play for a contender @Zero-G2494! So excited to bring you back to the Marlins @Mint!! Thanks @nurx for the easy deal

There's a reason we built 79 beds in there!

Congrats dude! Hope you and your family are doing well!

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It seems as though the repercussions for Landon Wolanin’s recent occult activity have come to fruition to start the season. The Wranglers and the Marlins are both off to incredibly hot starts as the almighty Simon seems to be blessing both teams with great performances, perhaps as a reward for praising him so much. Landon personally seems to be suffering, having only scored 1 measly point in the first 8 games of the season. Perhaps it is some sort of ritualistic suffering in order to please the otherworldly overlord. Words have never been enough to please Simon historically, and it seems Wolanin has found out what the price is of team success. No matter how hard he trains and how focused he becomes on his offensive output, Simon takes what he wants. Will Simon get bored of causing just Wolanin suffering? Will this plague spread to the other Marlins and Wranglers players? How long can this dominant team play last before Simon turns his back? It is a dangerous game to play with fate and the occult, but so far, sacrificing Landon Wolanin has been the best thing the Marlins and Wranglers could have done.

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So excited to see more content from this team! And super excited to see aimkin and Squids Mackenzie get in on the action too! I'm sure you've all come to this conclusion by now but I am ALWAYS available for an interview and I will ALWAYS give you too many words!

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