It's certainly part of why I think the MSFL_R died, which was probably the other biggest league at the time. People bitched about every little thing, the commissioners (myself included) said "fuck it, I don't care, do your own thing then" because we weren't the most mature either, and everyone doing their own thing was not very beneficial to long-lasting success. I'll take maturity over activity every day of the week, and the VHL's stability was the main reason I wanted to come back here in S31 in the first place.