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Pretty much everything you just said applies to the SHL as well, aside from the elections. And as I said, i acknowledge that the voting-system has its flaws, but that's the case for every leadership system in a league like this. Or would you say that the one in the VHL is perfect? I'd argue that nobody has been voted into the SHL HOso far as a troll or through sheer popularity. And even if that happened, there are systems in place to rectify this and allow either the Owners or the rest of the HO to get rid of a person like that. But regarding the guys that have been voted in so far, whether you like them or not, I would argue that all of them are people that would have stood a reasonable chance to be selected for the HO if the system was based on appointments by the existing leadership and not election. So if you don't like some of the people in the SHL HO then that's fine, but a system without elections wouldn't have prevented them from making it in either. I would argue that the same thing has been happening the other way around as well, people from the VHL signing up in the SHL just to troll etc... It's just the nature of the beast. I wonder who you think these "elitists" over there are who just constantly bash the VHL though, because I don't see them. My impression is that the large majority of the SHL either likes the VHL and maybe even has a player here or they just don't care about it and therefore never talk about the VHL either. Off the top of my head I can't think of a single person who constantly runs around bashing the VHL. Maybe those people exist but if so, they are an extremely small minority. And yes, I will defend the SHL against unfair and often misinformed criticism like some of the stuff in this thread. That does NOT mean that I like everything that happens over there, nor does it mean that I think everyone who criticizes the SHL is stupid. Devise is making some good points in his beloved three-paragraphs, but you gotta grant that not every post in here that goes after the SHL is as well thought-out and reasonable.

I get that opinion and I actually kinda agree with it to some extent. It's not like I was a big proponent of the voting-based system or anything, I'm kinda indifferent actually and just think it's weird how much some people seem to hate that idea. But I do find it quite interesting that people on here love to bash the SHL's userbase, yet you don't seem to think too highly of your own members either, since you don't think they can be trusted with having an actual say on league matters. We are not even talking about direct democracy either, just mere representatives which the Owners also have the right to veto.

I think there is one big misconception here: Nobody in the SHL calls it a "constitution". Only people in this thread here on the VHL do because that's the term that was used by eagles in the OP. Whether you think a voting-based system is a good idea or not is a legitimate discussion of course, there sure are good arguments for both sides of the argument. I just think that some people are overly dramatic when it comes to that idea, it's not nearly as outrageous as some make it sound. Also, I think it's important to remember that the voting-system wasn't implemented because the masses were demanding it and because the league felt that they had to accomodate their feelings, as some are alleging. It was introduced by the Commissioner because he wanted some help running the day-to-day operations of the league. He could've just hand-picked 6 people himself but instead decided to let the league vote on them, which again I don't think is a crazy idea. In fact, the voting-system was a bit more complicated than that, the league actually only voted on 4 of the HO members while 2 were to be hand picked by the Commish, the Commish just decided to go with the next-best vote getters fors his picks.

This "constitution" talk talk is quite exaggerated imho, the SHL has a normal rulebook just like the VHL with the only difference being that people can vote on Head Office members. And either way, the gorlab ban happened quite some time BEFORE we instituted the voting-system so those two issues aren't really connected.

Helloooooooooo Quebec And thanks for the last couple of seasons greg and for listening to my request!

I wasn't, but then again I know that the truth and you always had a pretty conflicted relationship.

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Really? I thought there were quite a few members who are pretty active in both leagues, have they all left one f the two at this point?

Trust me, I'm not super thrilled about the SHL right now either, which makes it even weirder to come here and be seen as "the SHL guy"

Already read it, thanks for the shoutout

I'm happy for the VHL then, that sure isn't what he has been on the SHL though for over a year. You guys in the VHL judge him based on his behavior in the VHL and that's fine, but then please understand that this goes both ways and so the SHL mainly judges him based on his behavior on the SHL. I really don't wanna make this a whole VHL vs. SHL thing again, sometimes it feels like that's all I'm good for here, but this is really tough to do when people on the VHL keep calling me out and go after me based on stuff from the SHL.

Last I checked you were still permabanned, guess I haven't sunk to your level just yet.

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He sure likes to... hog the spotlight *ba-dum-tss*

Ah, the memories...

Save your fake outrage, nobody believes that you actually give a shit given the stuff that you guys are saying

Classy. And sorry for thinking you were teammates, guess I will always see you as a New York American

Hahahaha, I guess you have to support your teammate but that's a stupid argument if I ever heard one. Guess you don't even know the reference I was using either.

Good to see that I'm still in your head

Why are you so obsessed with my player again ?