diamond_ace 3,112 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Paul Martin makes no sense to me Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-24479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight 1,289 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Burke was the GM of the 2010 team who were extremely close to a gold medal, so he's earned another shot at doing it his way. Not that I would necessarily say that about a player (Ryan), but he's got a tendency for bluntness. Also he improved Toronto drastically, finally giving us a young core who are competent, which we hadn't had since the pre-lockout days. His personality and clash with new management is what got him fired, not his lack of performance. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-24652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Burke was the GM of the 2010 team who were extremely close to a gold medal, so he's earned another shot at doing it his way. Not that I would necessarily say that about a player (Ryan), but he's got a tendency for bluntness. Also he improved Toronto drastically, finally giving us a young core who are competent, which we hadn't had since the pre-lockout days. His personality and clash with new management is what got him fired, not his lack of performance. It's highly debatable that those prospects would have been put in your shelf regardless of who was at the helm. I know leaf fans don't like to admit it, but the Kessel trade did hurt the leafs more then help. Seguin and Hamilton alone would, in my opinion, would have been the better option for the leafs. In all likeliness the leafs will make the playoffs for a few years and go back to where they were before. But I'm not looking to get into a leafs debate because that would require me to argue with people who are extremely bias. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-24680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwfulHomesick 148 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Team Czech Republic GOALKEEPERS Ondřej Pavelec — Winnipeg Jets Jakub Kovar — Yekaterinburg Alexander Salak — St Petersburg DEFENSEMEN Marek Zidlicky — New Jersey Devils Ladislav Smid — Calgary Flames Radko Gudas — Tampa Bay Lightning Michal Barinka — HC Vitkovice Luke Krajíček — Dinamo Minsk Michal Rozsival — Chicago Blackhawks Zbynek Michalek — Phoenix Coyotes Tomas Kaberle — Knights of Kladno FORWARDS Jaromir Jagr — New Jersey Devils Patrik Elias — New Jersey Devils Tomas Plekanec — Montreal Canadiens Ales Hemsky — Edmonton Oilers Jakub Voracek — Philadelphia Flyers Michael Frolik — Winnipeg Jets Martin Hanzal — Phoenix Coyotes Vladimir Sobotka — St. Louis Blues Ondřej Palát — Tampa Bay Lightning Milan Michalek — Ottawa Senators David Krejci — Boston Bruins Roman Cervenka — St Petersburg Petr Nedved — White Tigers Liberec Jiří Novotný — HC LEV Praha Edited January 6, 2014 by AwfulHomesick Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I always wondered how Kovar would have done if he came over to NA. Drafted by the Flyers in the 06 draft, he's put up some pretty good stats in both the Czech league and the KHL this season, but never really had any interest in coming over. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwfulHomesick 148 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I always wondered how Kovar would have done if he came over to NA. Drafted by the Flyers in the 06 draft, he's put up some pretty good stats in both the Czech league and the KHL this season, but never really had any interest in coming over. Czech GM hinted that Pavelec may not start. So we might see Kovar get starts. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 im salivating at the Pietrangelo-Doughty pairing. that just tickles me pink. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 That's the oldest lineup in the tournament. It has to be. Nedved (42), Jagr (41), Elias (37), Kaberle (35), Zidlicky (36), Rozsival (35) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 No Vrbata.. interesting. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Don't like Orpik and Martin is straight up an awful selection. What happened to speed? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 No Vrbata.. interesting. Yeah. I find this silly. Hanzal but no Vrbata (Gretel) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kel 62 Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 I'm stoked for this tourney . Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-26209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwfulHomesick 148 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Team Canada to be announced in 30 minutes or so on TSN, TSN.ca and TSN Radio. Anyone outside of Canada wanting to see the announcement should watch the TSN.ca stream on a mobile device. Hasn't been working on my computer. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 As a Flyers fan and Team USA fan I'm happy Giroux isn't going, but I don't see how Canada could leave him off the roster. The only player with more points than Giroux over the past 3 years is Malkin. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBR 158 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So....No St-Louis.. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 Rick Nash over Giroux, Seguin etc. i dont like that at all Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Nash over Thornton, Giroux, Couture and Staal. K Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) As a Flyers fan and Team USA fan I'm happy Giroux isn't going, but I don't see how Canada could leave him off the roster. The only player with more points than Giroux over the past 3 years is Malkin. I love Giroux. He can go on some hot and cold stretches like any elite hockey player for sure but for me the reason he didn't make this roster and my own personal Team Canada roster is because I feel Giroux best plays the game in a top six role. I don't see him on Canada's top six. Hell I barely see Giroux in the top nine. Not because he is a bad player, but because he simply didn't fit. Once the decision for Team Canada came down to rolling the top nine with the three duos of Crosby/Kunitz, Toews/Sharp and Getzlaf/Perry you end up slotting in players that fit best with those type of players. Giroux can score but he is far more of a playmaker and the roster simply had enough of those type of players. Guys like Nash, Carter, Marluea finish better, in the case of Nash hit a lot better and fit those roles better than a player like Giroux does. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe a guy like Duchene gets more minutes but the younger guys like him scream to me fourth line players on this roster. I don't know if Giroux would be as successful in a role like that for one, or if he would welcome it. Just my thoughts of course. If I had to do forward line projections I'd say it shakes out like this Kunitz - Crosby - Stamkos Sharp - Toews - Nash Benn - Getzlaf - Perry Marleau - Tavares - Carter Bergereon - Duchene Edited January 7, 2014 by Devise22 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 with that being said. Switch Nash with Carter. Nash has not at all played well this year. Sure he had a concussion but upon return, he has not played well at all. Boy if Canada shits the bed... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted January 7, 2014 Admin Share Posted January 7, 2014 Marluea Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 with that being said. Switch Nash with Carter. Nash has not at all played well this year. Sure he had a concussion but upon return, he has not played well at all. Boy if Canada shits the bed... If Canada shits the bed you can't really blame it on fringe players that likely wouldn't of played in the top six anwyays. I love guys like Giroux, St. Lous etc. But Canada still brought it's best players. Crosby, Stamkos, Toews, Price, Doughty, Keith. If we shit the bed it's because those guys don't perform. Plain and simple. And if those guys can't perform? Giroux or St Louis or Seabrook or any of them wouldn't have done any better. Toews/Crosby/Stamkos are higher than any FISTED ANALLY BY A CIRCUS MONKEY player on the list of top players in the entire world if we are being honest. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted January 7, 2014 Admin Share Posted January 7, 2014 The censor never fails to bring a smile to my face. Praise Damien. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 If Canada shits the bed you can't really blame it on fringe players that likely wouldn't of played in the top six anwyays. I love guys like Giroux, St. Lous etc. But Canada still brought it's best players. Crosby, Stamkos, Toews, Price, Doughty, Keith. If we shit the bed it's because those guys don't perform. Plain and simple. And if those guys can't perform? Giroux or St Louis or Seabrook or any of them wouldn't have done any better. Toews/Crosby/Stamkos are higher than any FISTED ANALLY BY A CIRCUS MONKEY player on the list of top players in the entire world if we are being honest. while that is true. but obviously if a team loses, it always isnt because of the best players fault. Crosby has been getting two points a game, true but if his team loses and he gets these two points and plays his game finishes even or even a plus, is it his fault the team loses? no its the support players. I just believe Duchene, Giroux, Thornton, Seguin are better support than Nash. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Couture is surprised he got left off. 1. He is injured. 2. His season is god, but not great. 3. Not surprised, always found him kind of whiny. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I love Giroux. He can go on some hot and cold stretches like any elite hockey player for sure but for me the reason he didn't make this roster and my own personal Team Canada roster is because I feel Giroux best plays the game in a top six role. I don't see him on Canada's top six. Hell I barely see Giroux in the top nine. Not because he is a bad player, but because he simply didn't fit. Once the decision for Team Canada came down to rolling the top nine with the three duos of Crosby/Kunitz, Toews/Sharp and Getzlaf/Perry you end up slotting in players that fit best with those type of players. Giroux can score but he is far more of a playmaker and the roster simply had enough of those type of players. Guys like Nash, Carter, Marluea finish better, in the case of Nash hit a lot better and fit those roles better than a player like Giroux does. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe a guy like Duchene gets more minutes but the younger guys like him scream to me fourth line players on this roster. I don't know if Giroux would be as successful in a role like that for one, or if he would welcome it. Just my thoughts of course. If I had to do forward line projections I'd say it shakes out like this Kunitz - Crosby - Stamkos Sharp - Toews - Nash Benn - Getzlaf - Perry Marleau - Tavares - Carter Bergereon - Duchene I think that second line makes a lot of sense as Sharp and Toews have been dynamite together and Nash is somewhat similar to Hossa in terms of style of play. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/2906-2014-olympics/page/2/#findComment-27163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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