Devise 4,475 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 I'm not arguing about the context at all. Obviously this is a smart move for the Isles with what you just said. I just don't think the difference in talent is as much as Seth thinks it is. Eh I'd argue it's a big enough difference to talk about. Nabokov isn't the same player he was many seasons ago. The current play of Nabokov is not as consistent or reliable or quite frankly not as good as Halak. I've seen Halak play in Washington, St Louis, and Montreal. Other than the occasional off game the majority of the time when his team has lost it's been the fault of the team, not him. That is not something you can say for Nabby lately. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-76874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Eh I'd argue it's a big enough difference to talk about. Nabokov isn't the same player he was many seasons ago. The current play of Nabokov is not as consistent or reliable or quite frankly not as good as Halak. I've seen Halak play in Washington, St Louis, and Montreal. Other than the occasional off game the majority of the time when his team has lost it's been the fault of the team, not him. That is not something you can say for Nabby lately. Again, not talking about this past season either. More so the past 2 or 3 seasons when the Isles were competitive. Back during the whole Bryz debacle, I wanted a Nabokov/Bobrovsky tandem, but obviously that never happened. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-76875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kareykoala 62 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 (edited) When you look at what they paid to get Halak, financially and transaction based, they have filled a vacant hole in their roster with a capable goalie. The deal will only get better as the team gets older and more experienced..... and when they get bought out, Charlie Wang gets fired, Garth Snow gets fired, an actual General Manager comes in, and they stop selling lottery draft picks for doughnuts. Edited May 23, 2014 by redoaknebraska Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-76876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 holy shit someone actually traded something for Louis Leblanc. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-83851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 I feel bad for him because he only got draft so high because he was French. Poor kid was put in a high pressure situation and was setup for failure to begin with. He aint no Patrick White but I think he still has a chance to at least play. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-84238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler 885 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I feel bad for him because he only got draft so high because he was French. Poor kid was put in a high pressure situation and was setup for failure to begin with. He aint no Patrick White but I think he still has a chance to at least play. not true at all. He was ranked top 20 by everyone. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-84243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 He was about 18 for everyone, which is where he fell but that's not to say there wasn't any picks that were ranked above him that they could/should have picked. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-84280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I feel bad for him because he only got draft so high because he was French. Poor kid was put in a high pressure situation and was setup for failure to begin with. He aint no Patrick White but I think he still has a chance to at least play. Nah man Patty White got us two years of Ehrhoff, dude was bawse. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-84284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 (edited) I'm not ganna lie that might have one of the best Canucks trades in the last 5ish years lol Edited June 16, 2014 by 8Ovechkin8 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-84303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 77 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 For ya'll Vancouver people There is gonna be a charity hockey game at the PNE on July 25th. Some of the players that will be there are Ryan Johansen, Brendan Gallagher, Mike Santorelli and Alex Edler to name a few. You would all have my deepest gratitude if you could help spread the word! http://charityhockeygame.com/index.html (Sorry for advertising!!!!) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-85358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 WE GOT OUR WILLIE Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-86191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hartnell traded to Columbus for Umberger. On first look, bad move by the Flyers. Umberger has been nothing short of a disappointment his whole career. Injury riddled and hasn't really ever fully developed. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-86194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckberg32 81 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hartnell is on the decline and they save a bunch of money. Lecavlier will be next. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-86202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hartnell is on the decline and they save a bunch of money. Lecavlier will be next. They save a bunch of money? 200k is not all that much when it comes to the NHL salary cap. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-86203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckberg32 81 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 got a draft ipck out of it too. Umberger will do a little less than Hartnell but I don't see it as too bad of a trade. Umberger did OK when he was in Philly, and he'll get less penalties. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-86204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munk 1,298 Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 They save a bunch of money? 200k is not all that much when it comes to the NHL salary cap. Hartnell is also signed until 2019 compared to Umberger who is 2017. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-86205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hartnell is also signed until 2019 compared to Umberger who is 2017. Yes but length of the contract doesn't matter in this trade as much. Both are 32 years old and Umberger actually makes only 150k less than Hartnell and also has only 92 points in the past 2 ½ seasons. Hartnell is a better player, even if he is declining, so is Umberger and he is doing it as a lower level to start with. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-86210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Fuck. What a shit deal for Kesler. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 It's not a horrible deal actually. Bonino is a good player for who is a heart and soul guy with upside. Sbisa is a shutdown guy with still some upside. The 1st round pick though, depends who they have their eyes on. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Sandro, theres another chip gone. NTC waived and a 2nd round pick on the way Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Bonino had a ridiculously high shooting % and bad possession numbers, he will fall back to earth. The 24th overall pick in a shallow draft is bad. I could live with it all if we got 10th. Sbisa is bad. Ballard 2.0. Garrison for a 2nd is a weird deal but it clears cap space and opens up a spot for Corrado. I just hope to God they aren't clearing space to sign Miller. Lack will be better than him by the end of the season. Edited June 27, 2014 by Sandro Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share Posted June 27, 2014 Both deals have me going what the shit. Garrison deal is ok cap and clears spot for Sbisa and Corrado. Bonino is ok he'll be a solid 3rd or 2nd liner once the dust settles and we get more players. Apparently Kesler only gave 2 teams so what Benning had to work with this is ok I guess. Looks like they're blowing up the team to an extent though. Also seeing Kesler go hurts Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Kesler poster is already off the wall and I don't know what to do with my jersey. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Canucks please wait until the draft to make these moves so it's funner to watch and hear breaking trades Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 It's been over 10 minutes without a trade, they're probably trying to pry 1st overall away from Florida now. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/349-2013-2014-nhl-discussion-thread/page/64/#findComment-87166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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