eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Lol RG3-7, Eagles in first place, who woulda thunk. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Lol RG3-7, Eagles in first place, who woulda thunk. Well not a surprise, the kid throws the ball wherever, regardless of the coverage. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Well not a surprise, the kid throws the ball wherever, regardless of the coverage. I was surprised not only with his stupid decisions, but how inaccurate RGIII was. The Redskins only had 3 passing yards after 3 quarters. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 I was surprised not only with his stupid decisions, but how inaccurate RGIII was. The Redskins only had 3 passing yards after 3 quarters. Does he wear a glove on his non throwing hand? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 4 in a row for the giants right back in the race for the division Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 HAWKS BABY HAWKS Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Carolina with a big game tomorrow night against the Patsies. THIS IS FOR 2003. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,143 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I was surprised not only with his stupid decisions, but how inaccurate RGIII was. The Redskins only had 3 passing yards after 3 quarters. If defenses aren't having to account for his running ability, he doesn't get the huge holes in coverage like he did last year. Just like Kaepernick, if teams force him to beat them with his arm, he can't get it done. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 If defenses aren't having to account for his running ability, he doesn't get the huge holes in coverage like he did last year. Just like Kaepernick, if teams force him to beat them with his arm, he can't get it done. One of the joys of having a pocket quarterback who can move out of the pocket. I've always been a firm believer in drafting a pocket QB and if he has potential and upside to run when needed then thats great. However drafting a QB that is 50/50 is rather risky, especially when it comes to building the playbook around that. Ex. RGIII, Vick, Kaepernick, Newton, Vince Young. You'll see 50/50 in terms of the play calling and 50/50 in terms of your record. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.sniffuM 1,741 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I remember when a ton of people gave me shit for calling the Browns geniuses for the Trent Richardson trade. It's fun to gloat to idiots. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,143 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 One of the joys of having a pocket quarterback who can move out of the pocket. I've always been a firm believer in drafting a pocket QB and if he has potential and upside to run when needed then thats great. However drafting a QB that is 50/50 is rather risky, especially when it comes to building the playbook around that. Ex. RGIII, Vick, Kaepernick, Newton, Vince Young. You'll see 50/50 in terms of the play calling and 50/50 in terms of your record. I really like Cam Newton. He's one of those rare guys who is actually pretty good both at running the ball and as a passer. But the big trend with him is that his passing has become more and more integral to his game as his career has gone on. This year, he's relying on his arm way more than his legs to get things done, but he can still work his magic on the ground too. He's still a bit too turnover prone, but he's shown progress there too. I think he'll be a top QB within a season or two. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Yeah ou of those name he is the most likely to turn himself into a very winnable QB that can do both. I just hope the air comes before the ground. Call me biased, but I was always a fan of the fact Rodgers is good through the air, and when he needs to be a runner he can pick up 5 yards or so without it taking 5 minutes to do. Peyton Manning is great at his throws in the air but if need be he seems to take a few years to scramble. Maybe I'm dumb in thinking this, but how can I guy honestly be that slow at running? Peyton is a HOF no doubt, I just never understood why a skinny guy like that can't run at all (Im talking like a 5.4 40 time.) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,143 Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 Yeah ou of those name he is the most likely to turn himself into a very winnable QB that can do both. I just hope the air comes before the ground. Call me biased, but I was always a fan of the fact Rodgers is good through the air, and when he needs to be a runner he can pick up 5 yards or so without it taking 5 minutes to do. Peyton Manning is great at his throws in the air but if need be he seems to take a few years to scramble. Maybe I'm dumb in thinking this, but how can I guy honestly be that slow at running? Peyton is a HOF no doubt, I just never understood why a skinny guy like that can't run at all (Im talking like a 5.4 40 time.) Honestly, my guess with Manning is that he doesn't really care to work on it. He knows his arm is his main weapon and that he's not going to beat you with his legs, so getting faster isn't a big deal to him. Sort of like how pitchers that are pretty big guys aren't powerful hitters: they don't work on it enough for it to really matter. Always been a big fan of Rodgers. His style of play, his personality, everything about him is what you want out of a franchise QB. Really the only bad thing is that if I remember right, he has an awful record when it comes to comebacks against teams over .500, but then again, can't be perfect at everything. I'm probably so partial to him because his style is an awful lot like Romo's, which I love. Only difference is, Rodgers plays for a franchise whose management isn't stuck up its ass. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2013 Share Posted November 18, 2013 I don't specifically mean he is slow because he choose not to work at it, I mean humanly born that slow haha. It almost seems like a struggle for him to run at all! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-11548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I also think Luck is up there with Newton and Rodgers. Obviously not as good a thrower as Rodgers, but he is a pocket passer who can be very mobile. Luck also has to carry his offense with average receivers and a not very good o line. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-12183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I also think Luck is up there with Newton and Rodgers. Obviously not as good a thrower as Rodgers, but he is a pocket passer who can be very mobile. Luck also has to carry his offense with average receivers and a not very good o line. Luck is great when he needs to be on the move. I mean if we were to talk about QB's throwing on the move, different story cause A-Rod is the best at it. What did we all think about the Pats/Flag event? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-12191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Was he going to catch it? no. Should of it been called? maybe but FUCK the pats lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-12194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Was he going to catch it? no. Should of it been called? maybe but FUCK the pats lol Maybe I'm biased cause I played in a secondary but if it's an uncatchable ball regardless of the defender on Gronk, who cares? He wasn't going to get it even if the defender wasn't there Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-12198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,605 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I hate the Pats, but that was interference. While it looked uncatchable, who knows with how much of an athlete with Gronk is. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-12201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregreg 930 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I hate the Pats, but that was interference. While it looked uncatchable, who knows with how much of an athlete with Gronk is. at worse it was holding Gronk wasn't catching that ball, at best he was knocking the ball out of the hands of the defensive player Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-12202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-14006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 You realize they are top of their division? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-14008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 You realize they are top of their division? i just saw that on 9gag. thought it was funny. but none the less im sure Dallas will find a way to choke. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-14014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 i just saw that on 9gag. thought it was funny. but none the less im sure Dallas will find a way to choke. Oh Romo will choke either way, I just thought I'd let you know it seemed funny after their win yesterday Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-14016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,143 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 i just saw that on 9gag. thought it was funny. but none the less im sure Dallas will find a way to choke. Romo has actually done a hell of a job closing out games this year. Really, the worst claim against him this season is that he "choked" against Denver, but shit, the guy threw for franchise highs in yards and TDs that game. If you lose a game in which the other team scored 51 points, the QB isn't why you lost. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/351-2013-2014-nfl-discussion-thread/page/3/#findComment-14050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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