Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,276 Posted March 11, 2014 Head Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2014 The turning page of the NFL season, free agency has started earlier today. Some notable signings: Cowboys cut DeMarcus Ware Broncos sign TJ Ward Colts re-sign Vontae Davis Ravens re-sign Eugene Monroe Raiders sign Jared Veldheer Eagles sign Malcolm Jenkins Falcons sign Tyson Jackson 49ers sign Antoine Bethea Falcons sign Jon Asamoah Falcons sign Paul Soliai Dolphins sign Branden Albert Titans sign Dexter McCluster Raiders sign Rodger Saffold Bears sign Lamarr Houston Browns sign Donte Whitner Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Sucks T.J. Ward didn't resign, I saw him as a big part of the Browns turnaround. Not surprising that my team doesn't do anything, we don't build that way. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,276 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Head Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2014 Sucks T.J. Ward didn't resign, I saw him as a big part of the Browns turnaround. Not surprising that my team doesn't do anything, we don't build that way. No one wants to live in that shit hole anyways It does stink to see Ward leave Cleveland, but they more or less swapped talent when they picked up Whitner. I was interested to see the Raiders making actually progress with their roster today, signing two linemen to help the dynamic but oft-injured DMF. He's been fun to watch but man, the guys around him have been nothing short of pathetic. Also, lol @ Falcons going over the top. When will Daniel Snyder make his first unnecessary purchase for underwhelming talent? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomsday 4,130 Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ugh, this year is going to be brutal for Dallas. Losing Ware sucks, but if they don't bring Jason Hatcher back, they'll have absolutely nothing up front besides George Selvie. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 No one wants to live in that shit hole anyways It does stink to see Ward leave Cleveland, but they more or less swapped talent when they picked up Whitner. I was interested to see the Raiders making actually progress with their roster today, signing two linemen to help the dynamic but oft-injured DMF. He's been fun to watch but man, the guys around him have been nothing short of pathetic. Also, lol @ Falcons going over the top. When will Daniel Snyder make his first unnecessary purchase for underwhelming talent? The shithole is known as Titletown and has more success than that windy city of yours. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,276 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Head Moderator Share Posted March 11, 2014 The shithole is known as Titletown and has more success than that windy city of yours. Have you ever been? Northern Wisconsin is like an extension of Minnesota, which is an extension of the Dakotas. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Have you ever been? Northern Wisconsin is like an extension of Minnesota, which is an extension of the Dakotas. I am aware it is not the crown jewel of the States. Tony Stark (aka Brad) will come on and disagree though Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,891 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pouring one out for Demarcus Ware. And throwing out an old piece of pizza for Miles Austin. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pouring one out for J-Pep. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,276 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Head Moderator Share Posted March 12, 2014 Pouring one out for J-Pep. Dat 14 mill in cap space tho Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-51962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Popping one out for A-Hernan.... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Dat 14 mill in cap space tho WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH IT THO Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle 667 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 LETS GOOO BEEEEEEELLLSSSS Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Byrd went to Saints for around 9.33 per season reports from media and interview from Bills directly that they were at least offering that much already. Turns out Byrd just didn't want to play for Bills after all I don't have a problem with that but lying about it makes me upset. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH IT THO Probably sign another pass rusher Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 can someone explain me why NFL team tend more to release a player instead of trading him ? Like, why don't you try to get something in return for your player ? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired MF 36 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Byrd to the Saints baby!! All that matters!! Byrd + Vaccaro might be the best safety duo in the NFL. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator frescoelmo 1,276 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Head Moderator Share Posted March 12, 2014 Probably sign another pass rusher More likely re-signing Melton Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52289 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 can someone explain me why NFL team tend more to release a player instead of trading him ? Like, why don't you try to get something in return for your player ? Because trading in the NFL is extremely rare. More times or not bonus' and contracts are structured strangely and it just becomes a mess. Also, more times or not if you are releasing a guy he isn't worth much anyways. Ex. Releasing J.J.Arrington (so much promise as a 2000 yard NCAA back but didn't cut it in the NFL) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 If richards seymour was traded for a first round pick, why cannot demarcus ware ? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 If richards seymour was traded for a first round pick, why cannot demarcus ware ? Because up until the point he becomes a UFA, they are most likely negotiating with him or up until free agency they are trying to rework a deal. There might not be any trade market for him either Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,891 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 If richards seymour was traded for a first round pick, why cannot demarcus ware ? With Ware, it had to do with the structure of his contract. If the Cowboys traded him, they likely would have had to eat most of his signing bonus, which was at least $10 million this year IIRC. Through cutting him, they didn't have to pay as much guaranteed money. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 can someone explain me why NFL team tend more to release a player instead of trading him ? Like, why don't you try to get something in return for your player ? In the NHL and certain other sports baseball comes to mind you draft players with a larger development window. As early as 16/17/18 or whatever the case may be. It is rare that you draft someone in that sport and then they instantly become an All Star in their rookie season tearing up the league. In the NFL players come in usually around 22 essentially developed physically and just need to mentally adjust to a specific scheme. You get an impact player for a million dollars or less instead of paying 9 million for possibly the same production while trying to stay under the salary cap. There have been plenty of 7th round or even undrafted players in the NFL that have gone on to good careers but get paid virtually nothing till the end of their first contract. When you trade a player due to the contract stipulations you might end up giving them money for years after you trade them anyway and most players that would be on the trade block are also near the end of their contract. No team wants to bring them in unless they agree to a new contract before the deal is done. Usually its just easier for everyone to just cut the losses and take the smaller cap hit and be done with it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Panthers cut Steve Smith Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Panthers cut Steve Smith Uhhhhhh what? Good god. I'd take him in a heartbeat! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/5956-official-2014-15-nfl-discussion-thread/#findComment-52474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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