Devise 4,475 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Beaviss said: Thanks for the vote of confidence Honestly you don't need it haha. Your GM tenure and Recruitment Crew work is enough. Hopefully it comes across when I say pecking order it's more names with more tenure/are overdue and less about "deserving". I'm pretty sure your name will be debated/on the list when we have gotten those out of the way. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,957 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Devise said: Honestly you don't need it haha. Your GM tenure and Recruitment Crew work is enough. Hopefully it comes across when I say pecking order it's more names with more tenure/are overdue and less about "deserving". I'm pretty sure your name will be debated/on the list when we have gotten those out of the way. Inb4 I'm a builder before I have a HOF player. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Tortorella 2,653 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Beaviss said: Inb4 I'm a builder before I have a HOF player. Dont need a HoF player to be a builder. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, flyersfan1453 said: Dont need a HoF player to be a builder. I didn't even realize players could make the HoF....... Victor 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,891 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Curious @Victor how many have a HOF player? We usually consider that stuff too Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,940 Posted June 30, 2019 Author Admin Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Advantage said: Curious @Victor how many have a HOF player? We usually consider that stuff too Added a column for that - only 5 of the 33 have no HOF players. But I feel like it's more HOF players are the product of a builder's activity generally, rather than vice versa. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 boubabi should 100% be inducted as a builder. It's sad that some of the people in positions of power on this site are still so salty they can't give credit where credit is due. Very SHLish. Fire Tortorella 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,025 Posted June 30, 2019 Commissioner Share Posted June 30, 2019 4 hours ago, gorlab said: boubabi should 100% be inducted as a builder. It's sad that some of the people in positions of power on this site are still so salty they can't give credit where credit is due. Very SHLish. He ruined that for himself as far as I’m concerned. Putting his players in is one thing but banned people as builders, which recognizes them as members, seems wrong. gorlab 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaka 228 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Challenge Accepted NotAVHLM-GM 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Hehe good luck Shaka, you build a lot elsewhere, but theres a lot needed here for induction. Vhlm + vhl magazine writer, BoG, initial welfare + pension guy for me so far and not even close to contention. Hopefully with SSN VHL coverage you can get something going Shaka 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I deserve it because I said so Dil 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 10 hours ago, gorlab said: boubabi should 100% be inducted as a builder. It's sad that some of the people in positions of power on this site are still so salty they can't give credit where credit is due. Very SHLish. Yeah echoing Beketov's sentiments here. No issues with inducting any of his players, bringing up any of his contributions or even basically outright stating that he deserves credit where credit is due. His graphic making, GMing, player building, the whole nine was fantastic. But being a toxic asshole and abusing members to the point that some were quitting doesn't somehow get "eroded". It has nothing to do with salt towards Boubabi either. How many chances did he get that weren't afforded to others? How much did he leverage the absolute privileges we afforded him solely because of his otherwise stellar contributions as a member? Do you think other members would get those same chances had they burned the bridges he did? No way. If anything it has always felt like to me that the pro-boubabi crowd is actually mad that we didn't just treat him fairly, we gave him extra chances to try and come back from things other members would of stayed banned for. You know, as well as most do....by this point...Boubabi didn't want to be here. Not really, and it's not my problem you can't admit that to yourself. There was zero chance he was going to stay here without being toxic, he basically admitted that to us. This league wasn't doing anything good for him, despite all the good HE did for it. Beketov 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorlab 4,321 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Beketov said: He ruined that for himself as far as I’m concerned. Putting his players in is one thing but banned people as builders, which recognizes them as members, seems wrong. 3 hours ago, Devise said: Yeah echoing Beketov's sentiments here. No issues with inducting any of his players, bringing up any of his contributions or even basically outright stating that he deserves credit where credit is due. His graphic making, GMing, player building, the whole nine was fantastic. But being a toxic asshole and abusing members to the point that some were quitting doesn't somehow get "eroded". It has nothing to do with salt towards Boubabi either. How many chances did he get that weren't afforded to others? How much did he leverage the absolute privileges we afforded him solely because of his otherwise stellar contributions as a member? Do you think other members would get those same chances had they burned the bridges he did? No way. If anything it has always felt like to me that the pro-boubabi crowd is actually mad that we didn't just treat him fairly, we gave him extra chances to try and come back from things other members would of stayed banned for. You know, as well as most do....by this point...Boubabi didn't want to be here. Not really, and it's not my problem you can't admit that to yourself. There was zero chance he was going to stay here without being toxic, he basically admitted that to us. This league wasn't doing anything good for him, despite all the good HE did for it. boubabi should 100% be inducted as a builder. It's sad that some of the people in positions of power on this site are still so salty they can't give credit where credit is due. Very SHLish. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted July 1, 2019 Senior Admin Share Posted July 1, 2019 We can't hide behind small mercies................................................................ Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil 1,760 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Bushito said: I deserve it because I said so agreed Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,602 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 100% of inducted builders have not been perma banned Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64135-how-does-one-become-a-builder/page/2/#findComment-636516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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