Nykonax 1,564 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Okay, So hear me out. With all the debate about team sizes and whatnot, and the need for expansion I got an idea. As you may know, VHL teams are growing from the 6-4-1 to a 9-4-1, and as these bigger recruitment drives and draft classes come, new players won't have room on teams. From talking to people, I've learned that expansion is costly for the league, and not really an optimal solution. The VHL's partners SBA and EFL both have a NCAA system, where your player is in the NCAA for at most 4 years, then in the season before they are drafted they "uncap" and don't have to follow the TPE cap for the league anymore. What I was thinking is to introduce an NCAA system similar to the ones in EFL and SBA. What this means is that there are more spots for players, since they'll be in the league for at most 4 seasons, and won't be a strain on the VHL, where new players who aren't eligible for the VHLM (just over 200) are getting 3rd line minutes. To populate the league, each VHL and VHLM player would get to create a "filler", which is a player who can only apply a specified amount of TPE per season. So that number could be 50 for instance, and each filler could only apply 50 tpe to the NCAA player, so that it isn't OP. Now, we'd change the VHLM to a farm team system, and preferably match each VHL team with a VHLM one. The players who have been VHL drafted would be assigned to the VHLM (if there wasn't a need for them up in the VHL) to develop and eventually join the VHL team. This would mean that the VHLM cap would be increased to say 450 or 500, and players would be allowed to still earn tpe once they hit the cap, it would just need to be banked. The process would be players would sign up, and be recruited by an NCAA team (no draft). Then they would spend at max 4 seasons in the NCAA, with a cap similar to the current VHLM, just wouldn't be allowed to bank any TPE once they hit 200. Then players would declare for the draft by uncapping, and are free to earn as much TPE as possible in their final NCAA season. Once drafted they would either be assigned to the VHLM, or called straight up to the VHL. An increase in career length would also be needed, and I just quickly though of this. Season count stays at 8, but NCAA seasons, and the first 2 VHLM seasons do not count towards this cap. If you're called straight up to the VHL team though, and skip the VHLM entirely, the season counter would start ticking. Let me know if you hate/love/have suggestions for this idea. I obviously don't see it being implemented in the next 3 seasons, but it's certainly a possibility in the short future imo. eaglesfan036, chillzone, omgitshim and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnGlade 1,010 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 IMO we should set the VHLM to 10 teams and assign each VHLM team to a VHL team as an affiliate and have a majors/minors system. I'd rather see VHLJ (Juniors) over NCAA just to keep in tune with the leagues we have now, but I think a few more seasons of recruiting and this is something we should consider Rayzor_7 and omgitshim 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonziGG 1,068 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 This sounds like one of those cool ideas that MIGHT bite the league in the ass. Not sure though but I dig it ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motzaburger 1,590 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Sold. Fire me up that Hawaii expansion team asap rocky. Great idea. Will definitely be on board for this na VHLJ is the way to go. Good suggestion Nyko! Nykonax 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,603 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 No. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Josh 1,671 Posted June 25, 2019 Commissioner Share Posted June 25, 2019 Just now, Positivefan036 said: No. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil 1,760 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I like this, adding competition for spots to make players continue to earn TPE. Good for retention Motzaburger and fonziGG 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,564 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, ShawnGlade said: IMO we should set the VHLM to 10 teams and assign each VHLM team to a VHL team as an affiliate and have a majors/minors system. I'd rather see VHLJ (Juniors) over NCAA just to keep in tune with the leagues we have now, but I think a few more seasons of recruiting and this is something we should consider pretty much what im saying, but just expand the VHL to 11 or whatever it is to match up with a VHLM team. VHLJ could also work I guess, but NCAA keeps us in line with SBA and EFL, and can help those members out, and newer sim leaguers who joined those leagues first, or are joining those leagues. A lot of the SBA and EFL guys have had questions about the minors, since it's different from the NCAA system ShawnGlade 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonziGG 1,068 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Positivefan036 said: No. I'm curious. Why a straight no? Nykonax 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nykonax 1,564 Posted June 25, 2019 Author Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Positivefan036 said: No. oh ok, well thats settled then Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motzaburger 1,590 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, DilIsPickle said: I like this, adding competition for spots to make players continue to earn TPE. Good for retention listen to the man Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motzaburger 1,590 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I'll just leave this here as well while this additional league starts to develop and happen Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,033 Posted June 25, 2019 Commissioner Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, ShawnGlade said: IMO we should set the VHLM to 10 teams and assign each VHLM team to a VHL team as an affiliate and have a majors/minors system. I'd rather see VHLJ (Juniors) over NCAA just to keep in tune with the leagues we have now, but I think a few more seasons of recruiting and this is something we should consider We used to use the sim engine’s farm system like this, there’s a lot more issues with it then the surface seems to imply. Way too much work for a single Simmer, much more complex rule structure to understand, etc. I prefer the two being separated. Personally I look at the VHLM as the CHL, not the AHL. ShawnGlade and omgitshim 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasty 57 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Josh. said: 4 hours ago, Positivefan036 said: No. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/64825-another-league/#findComment-634711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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