Town of Salem #7

[rjfryman 1,120]

Just to be clear after vote they have some time to take the stand correct? or in this version they just die?

[Spartan 4,274]

Just now, rjfryman said:

Just to be clear after vote they have some time to take the stand correct? or in this version they just die?

they will die at the end of the day, they basically have the entire time to defend themselves

[Mr_Hatter 1,608]

10 minutes ago, rjfryman said:

Sheriff will not find townies as suspicious even if tt

Along this logic, I don't think tt counts for evil as psychic

[Mr_Hatter 1,608]

Meaning its either bridges or goat

[Mr_Hatter 1,608]

Assuming rj isn't faking 

[eaglesfan036 4,593]

yea so let's just have the town investigative look at those two and then tomorrow we should have enough info to do the old lynch and hangaroo 

[NotAVHLM-GM 1,858]

Just a gameplay question: if we are already saying who will be investigated, isnt the chance bigger he does nothing tonight (and not post anything here) to look innocent/inactive?

 

[rjfryman 1,120]

1 minute ago, eaglesfan036 said:

yea so let's just have the town investigative look at those two and then tomorrow we should have enough info to do the old lynch and hangaroo 

I don't like that idea. Mafia does better if Town gives them more time. If you are really town, this doesn't seem like the answer.

[Spartan 4,274]

1 minute ago, OrbitingDeath said:

Just a gameplay question: if we are already saying who will be investigated, isnt the chance bigger he does nothing tonight (and not post anything here) to look innocent/inactive?

 

activity doesn't determine results for the investigator

 

Just now, rjfryman said:

I don't like that idea. Mafia does better if Town gives them more time. If you are really town, this doesn't seem like the answer.

this is more of a "gather more information rather than kill someone innocent" type of move. sure, mafia will do better if town gives them time, but we also can't act without solid evidence

[NotAVHLM-GM 1,858]

I do tend to side towards rj's option though. As he is on my list as well as an evil option. That's why I wondered about the dual roles.

 

[rjfryman 1,120]

1 minute ago, Spartan said:

this is more of a "gather more information rather than kill someone innocent" type of move. sure, mafia will do better if town gives them time, but we also can't act without solid evidence

you know what a great way to get info is vote for role. If we vote him up and he actually tells us then we can unvote him. Pyschic is a TI. This is info. we don't know what other TI we have. we could get shit all from them, hell Beaviss might have been a TI which means its just me. any if we are lucky Random Town. To me the best way to get info this early is to pressure the leads we do have.  

 

@Alex Bridges What role are you claiming. 

[eaglesfan036 4,593]

1 minute ago, OrbitingDeath said:

I do tend to side towards rj's option though. As he is on my list as well as an evil option. That's why I wondered about the dual roles.

 

You are also claiming psychic??

 

Also, if we are doing rjs option and voting one if the 2 (which i still say is very dumb), then we should vote up barzal so he doesn’t possibly get an executioner win. If barzal is innocent we could kill bridges in jail

[eaglesfan036 4,593]

But yes good point on asking for his role, @Alex Bridges what is your role?

[NotAVHLM-GM 1,858]

Yes I am

[omgitshim 899]

1 hour ago, eaglesfan036 said:

Also lol at me for forgetting to read the will. Why in the world would an escort go on the confirmed mayor? What purpose does that serve. We know they weren't witched cause someone else also claimed witched. 

 

58 minutes ago, eaglesfan036 said:

I forgot to mention I was roleblocked last night

 

That means one of the following:

 

Big Al's will was forged

There is an additional escort

There is a consort 

 

56 minutes ago, Mr_Hatter said:

I guess bigAl could have been a disguiser? But if thats the case there has to be an escort. Can anyone speak to that? It would make sense for eagles claiming rb

 

I can think of only one reason to visit a confirmed Mayor as Escort D1: to prove that you exist without possibly interfering with TI/TP. If there's a spy they could determine between Escort and Consort and get proven early. @Devise were you actually roleblocked?

 

Forger doesn't make sense since Mafia didn't do the killing, and Disguiser also doesn't make sense because then he would have had to visit an Escort who happened to have a Crusader on them and keep a fake last will all on Night 1.

 

It's possible bigAL was witched, though unlikely. If a witch sees their n1 target die, it's not unheard of for them to claim witched themselves to throw people off their scent.

 

18 minutes ago, eaglesfan036 said:

 

well I am unfamiliar with town traitor, but if we truly wanted to confirm ricer's innocence couldn't we send the sheriff on rice (if we have one)? If Town Traitor comes up as suspect we could tell sheriff to go on Ricer, and then investigator to pick one of Bridges or Barzal 

 

I'm not 100% sure if tt would show as good or evil to Psychic tbh. My guess is it would be good since it's still a town role.

 

Just now, OrbitingDeath said:

Just a gameplay question: if we are already saying who will be investigated, isnt the chance bigger he does nothing tonight (and not post anything here) to look innocent/inactive?

 

 

There's a big chance that Mafia would Frame them if they have a Framer. We know there is a Janitor in play though.

[Ricer13 2,774]

If bigAL was escort what are the chances barzal is actually an escort? I’m leaning more towards that being unlikely. 

[rjfryman 1,120]

1 minute ago, eaglesfan036 said:

Also, if we are doing rjs option and voting one if the 2 (which i still say is very dumb), then we should vote up barzal so he doesn’t possibly get an executioner win. If barzal is innocent we could kill bridges in jail

Im still not why you think this is dumb. At least Barzal has claimed. Im not saying we have to lynch the man if he claims what he wants but right now its a psychic who has a vision that 1 is EVIL. the info is great no matter what. If you want to keep pushing Im EX thats fine. But every time you say something it doesn't give me confidence you are town. I want to switch my vote to you almost b/c you have talked so much, wanting us to not do anything to buy time for maf.there are not a lot of people claiming anything and a TI actually comes with info any you jump to EX. if the info is bad then you can jump on EX but right now vote for role is the best option. 

[rjfryman 1,120]

1 minute ago, Ricer13 said:

If bigAL was escort what are the chances barzal is actually an escort? I’m leaning more towards that being unlikely. 

there is plenty of room for 2 escorts. Im pretty sure @GustavMattias didn't limit it to one, rather he randomly drew each time from the pool available. 

[Doomsday 4,120]

1 hour ago, eaglesfan036 said:

 

Also lol at me for forgetting to read the will. Why in the world would an escort go on the confirmed mayor? What purpose does that serve. We know they weren't witched cause someone else also claimed witched. 

 

There may be a Hypnotist.

[eaglesfan036 4,593]

@rjfryman

 

I was reading you wrong. Voting him up to get him to claim a role is fine there is no issue with that.

 

what would be stupid is if he does claim a logical role to to ahead and still kill him based on limited info. This is what happened last game and mafia won because town killed their own townies like 5 times. 

[eaglesfan036 4,593]

As far as me not having anything to add... not every member of town has something to add

 

If i am a bodyguard, doctor, veteran, vig, what point is there in revealing myself right now, what useful info could i add?

 

if i was an investigator or sheriff who just looked our dead escort, what useful info could i have? 

[rjfryman 1,120]

Just now, eaglesfan036 said:

@rjfryman

 

I was reading you wrong. Voting him up to get him to claim a role is fine there is no issue with that.

 

what would be stupid is if he does claim a logical role to to ahead and still kill him based on limited info. This is what happened last game and mafia won because town killed their own townies like 5 times. 

ohh if he gives a decent role then for now i just want to get roles. too early and too much space to go and kill him if he actually claims. but if he is 100% afk and doesn't talk at all even when getting voted up i have no issue keeping my vote and killing.

[rjfryman 1,120]

1 minute ago, eaglesfan036 said:

As far as me not having anything to add... not every member of town has something to add

 

If i am a bodyguard, doctor, veteran, vig, what point is there in revealing myself right now, what useful info could i add?

 

if i was an investigator or sheriff who just looked our dead escort, what useful info could i have? 

this is where whispers would at least be decent so i can not focus on the people just talking. i get that they probably would be broken but damn it makes it hard to not just focus on every word someone says when there are only 5ish people talking. 

[omgitshim 899]

I will say that Psychic is an easy role to fake, and an Exe in particular would throw in a confirmed Town to make their target more likely to get suspected. Other evils would generally thrown in 3 unknowns and hope they got a lucky read.

 

That said, I really don't like Escort claims who don't visit N1. Consorts usually don't visit N1 in case of Spy; Escorts should want to make their presence known because a Spy can clear them quickly. That doesn't mean an Escort won't visit N1, I've heard people say they'd rather not block a Townie by mistake. I personally think that's a bad play but it doesn't condemn them.

 

Depending upon what Alex claims though, I'm much more weary of Barzal's claim is rj is actually Psychic.

[omgitshim 899]

if* rj is psychic