Victor

In the S68 Hall of Fame discussion thread, a number of players were listed for consideration to be added to the ballot, including two with the following stat lines: RS: 576 GP, 333 G, 361 A, 694 P, +256, 137 PIM, 211 HIT, 215 SB, 57 GW PO: 77 GP, 42 G, 36 A, 78 P, +18, 13 PIM, 21 HIT, 41 SB, 10 GW RS: 576 GP, 338 G, 351 A, 689 P, +83, 286 PIM, 692 HIT, 316 SB, 60 GW PO: 51 GP, 17 G, 36 A, 53 P, -2, 282 PIM, 17 HIT, 20 SB, 1 GW The first one is Oyorra Arroyo @omgitshim who has just been inducted into the HOF. The other is Veran Dragomir @Velevra who played the exact same 8 seasons as Arroyo but isn't even on the ballot. Now there is a simple explanation below and for lots of voters the below makes a big difference: Arroyo: S64 Kevin Brooks Trophy (Most Goals) S65 Scotty Campbell Trophy (Most Valuable) S65 Brett Slobodzian Trophy (Most Outstanding) S65 Mike Szatkowski Trophy (Most Points) S65 Kevin Brooks Trophy (Most Goals) 2x All-VHL First Team (S64, S65) Three Continental Cups (S62, S64, S65) Dragomir: S60 Christian Stolzschweiger Trophy (Top Rookie) S67 Kevin Brooks Trophy (Most Goals) 1x All-VHL First Team (S65) 1x All-VHL Second Team (S67) Essentially, Dragomir had the better start to his career and the better end, while Arroyo had a higher peak in the middle. Dragomir was less lucky in the playoffs, only making the finals once on an underdog Quebec in S62 while Arroyo made five straight appearances from S61 to S65. Arroyo had three 100-point performances compared to Dragomir's 1, but Dragomir had 3 other 90-point seasons, including when the two combined efforts on the Victory Cup-winning swansong in Toronto in S67. Certainly if they were both on the ballot I'm sure Arroyo would still be inducted first and his was a well deserved induction. But seeing how close their careers really were, is Dragomir hard done by not even being on the ballot? On a vaguely related note, I have realised the Velevra has won the Stolzschweiger Trophy as the league's top rookie with each of his past 3 players (Apollo Skye, Dragomir, Soren Jensen). That is probably a unique achievement.

You want to end up on the Hall of Fame ballot right?

What a team, what a locker room. ?

Inspired pick in VHFL imo.

I will continue pushing you to your limits.

I see non all-VHL first teamers above me, tsk tsk.

you helped Cleganebowl happen. You legacy is safe with me.

WITH A COUPLE NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS

People be sleeping on NY

you did confuse two equally shitty drafts tbf

yo that's some Devise level shit there

press conferences, trivia, fantasy zone, league-wide practice facility, TPE for winning awards Just a handful of things that didn't exist when you joined.

Randoms with the most ridiculous last season ever tbh. GG Moscow.

Not anymore

So now that we have actual playoff races, I was wondering how well people's pre-season predictions would hold up over a season? For instance, Calgary made the finals last season but I think most people would have voted them to be the odd ones out in NA at the start of S70. Likewise, I don't think New York and Malmo would have been the popular picks to miss out. Well in S71, why not put public opinion to the test. Assuming Toronto and Davos don't make it again (sorry @Peace and @GustavMattias), who do you think the other 2 teams to miss the playoffs will be? Members tag? Damn right @Members tag

I mean, probably haha, but I'm confused by the S4 comment nonetheless. I feel like you're confusing Bora with someone.

Bora! eh

Still no Pavlov hmm. Either you're all very wrong or very right.

Definitely need to be more visible and not simmed in 3 days. Semifinals and finals in 1 sim is a bit meh.

Season 71 VHL Entry Draft Board Portal Link Red = VHL Hall of Famer S71, S72 = S71, S72 Continental Cup Champion, etc. Round One 1. RIGA REIGN (from Malmo): C - Kyl Oferson S72, S76 2. HC DAVOS DYNAMO: D - Roque Davis 3. SEATTLE BEARS (from Toronto via Davos): C - Ola Vikingstad S71, S73 4. D.C. DRAGONS (from New York): G - Stone Wolski 5. PRAGUE PHANTOMS: LW - Thomas Landry II 6. HELSINKI TITANS: LW - Jim Bob S77 7. NEW YORK AMERICANS (from D.C.): D - Hugh Jass 8. VANCOUVER WOLVES: LW - Joe Proto 9. SEATTLE BEARS: RW - Uhtred S71, S73 10. RIGA REIGN: C - Pengu S72 11. TORONTO LEGION (from Calgary): LW - Erik Killinger 12. SEATTLE BEARS (from Moscow): D - Zyrok12 Round Two 13. SEATTLE BEARS (from Davos via Moscow): C - Ray Sheilds S75 14. HELSINKI TITANS (from Toronto): LW - Bob Helminen 15. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Malmo via Seattle): G - Joakim Bruden 16. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from New York via Toronto): C - Vin Calia 17. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS (from Prague): LW - Adam Syreck S76 18. TORONTO LEGION (from Helsinki via New York): RW - Jeff Blaze 19. SEATTLE BEARS (from D.C.): D - Bo Burrows 20. D.C. DRAGONS (from Vancouver via Davos): RW - Xavier leFlamant 21. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS (from Seattle via Calgary via Riga via Vancouver): LW - Gary Neal 22. VANCOUVER WOLVES (from Riga): LW - Squirrely Dan S76 23. MOSCOW MENACE (from Calgary via Riga): D - Gavin Harris 24. MOSCOW MENACE: D - Jason Goeson Round Three 25. HC DAVOS DYNAMO: RW - Mickey Dickson S75 26. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Prague via Moscow): LW - Kazimir Komarov 27. RIGA REIGN (from Malmo): C - Cassius Gardner 28. D.C. DRAGONS (from New York): C - Richard Penisson 29. MOSCOW MENACE (from Prague): C - Tomothe Dylansen 30. VANCOUVER WOLVES (from Helsinki): RW - Blake Bridges 31. VANCOUVER WOLVES (from D.C. via Riga): LW - Xavier Hills 32. VANCOUVER WOLVES: RW - Raiens Grasis 33. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Seattle via Calgary): LW - Big Chungus 34. RIGA REIGN: D - Rich Dickbutt McFudderdudder 35. PRAGUE PHANTOMS (from Calgary via Davos): G - Woody McPine 36. VANCOUVER WOLVES (from Moscow via D.C. via Toronto): C - Cummins Aulhovere Round Four 37. HC DAVOS DYNAMO: LW - Gino Alkamino 38. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Toronto): C - Fat Beast 39. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS: RW - Alex Burrows 40. HELSINKI TITANS (from New York): G - Hex Valentine 41. PRAGUE PHANTOMS: LW - Jack John 42. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Helsinki via Toronto): RW - Brenden Rose 43. SEATTLE BEARS (from D.C.): RW - Peter Louis 44. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Vancouver via Helsinki via Prague): LW - Linea Alba 45. SEATTLE BEARS: D - Erik Hjalmarsson 46. RIGA REIGN: LW - Chip Chiperson 47. CALGARY WRANGLERS: G - Bennett Dahl 48. MOSCOW MENACE: LW - Nicolas Konig

Season 70 VHL Entry Draft Board Portal Link Red = VHL Hall of Famer S70, S71 = S70, S71 Continental Cup Champion, etc. Round One 1. CALGARY WRANGLERS: D - Edwin THE Encarnacion 2. CALGARY WRANGLERS (from Davos via Vancouver): C - Mikko Lahtinen 3. SEATTLE BEARS (from D.C.): D - Odin Omdahl S71, S73, S77 4. CALGARY WRANGLERS: G - Jacques Lafontaine 5. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Toronto): C - Chad Magnum 6. NEW YORK AMERICANS: LW - Iangenere Risteneen 7. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS: C - Lewis Dawson 8. HELSINKI TITANS: RW - Jared Spaz 9. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Moscow): G - Jaxx Hextall 10. TORONTO LEGION (from Vancouver): RW - Justin Graves 11. HELSINKI TITANS (from Riga): D - Kyle Andersen 12. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Seattle via Calgary): D - Shawn Glade Jr. Round Two 13. HC DAVOS DYNAMO: LW - Damien Wolfe 14. D.C. DRAGONS: LW - Derek Eriksson 15. MOSCOW MENACE (from Prague): RW - Aleelee Kiak S73 16. NEW YORK AMERICANS (from Calgary): LW - Gabriel Gutzwiler 17. HELSINKI TITANS (from Toronto via Malmo via New York): LW - Ike Bennett 18. NEW YORK AMERICANS: C - Leon Gutzwiler 19. SEATTLE BEARS (from Malmo): C - Alex Bridges 20. HELSINKI TITANS: RW - Vladimir Shaposhnikov 21. MOSCOW MENACE: C - Jimothy Frost 22. TORONTO LEGION (from Vancouver): D - Aleksandra Olsen 23. TORONTO LEGION (from Riga via D.C.): C - Dick Cheezy 24. CALGARY WRANGLERS (from Seattle via Helsinki): LW - Justin Goatman Round Three 25. HC DAVOS DYNAMO: C - Jack Feriancek 26. RIGA REIGN (from D.C.): C - JaredN 27. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS (from Prague): G - Aleksandr Aleksandrov 28. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Calgary via Vancouver): LW - Owen Kaitanaq 29. RIGA REIGN (from Toronto): D - Teddy Smith 30. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS (from New York): D - Aldis Auzins 31. NEW YORK AMERICANS (from Malmo via Riga via Vancouver): C - Danny Sammyson 32. CALGARY WRANGLERS (from Helsinki via Prague): C - KSI 33. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Moscow via Seattle via New York via Vancouver): RW - Rede Kachur 34. NEW YORK AMERICANS (from Vancouver): D - Elias Ostling 35. HC DAVOS DYNAMO (from Riga via Vancouver): D - Nikita Kulikovich 36. NEW YORK AMERICANS (from Seattle via Toronto): D - Jayden Zelinsky Round Four 37. HC DAVOS DYNAMO: RW - Adil Mahmood 38. RIGA REIGN (from D.C.): PASS 39. MOSCOW MENACE (from Prague): D - Dylan Carpenter 40. VANCOUVER WOLVES (from Calgary): G - Jake Freuer 41. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS (from Toronto): G - Dylen Peterson 42. D.C. DRAGONS (from New York via Seattle): RW - Crush Cile 43. MALMO NIGHTHAWKS: G - Kenny Schztelverdge 44. VANCOUVER WOLVES (from Helsinki): RW - Ethan Magee 45. MOSCOW MENACE: LW - Michael Rassmussen 46. HELSINKI TITANS (from Vancouver): LW - Julian Dalvao 47. RIGA REIGN: D - Harry Deke 48. VANCOUVER WOLVES (from Seattle via New York): RW - Mikko Rantanen

Your sacrifices may get you a letter on the jersey *spoiler*

Nykonax F - Jet Jaguar F - Mat Tocco F - D - Oskar Lagesson D - G - MexicanCow F - Hunter Hearst Helmsley F - F - D - Berocka Sunqvist D - G - Rayz Funk Victor F - Scott Greene F - F - D - Micheal Gary Scott D - Condor Adrienne G - Tate F - Julius Freeman F - F - D - Vladimir Pavlov D - G - Jbeezy76 F - Erik Draven F - F - D - Smitty Werbenjagermanjensen D - G - VinCal F - Kyl Oferson F - F - D - Roque Davis D - G - @Tate

I'm so confused, it's non Davos people fighting non Davos people.

This is also very important to note - it's an advisory rather than decision making board.