I am arguing to make it heard of what I and others have expressed. I don't know who else talked about it, but I know myself, @DollarAndADream and @Phil all feel the same way on this subject. There is no arguing just for the sake of arguing. Just now you are making it seem like it's 2 different accounts. If you want to go ahead and do that, then why implement the 3 season rule? Would player A and player B have to wait 3 seasons? Would say yourself for example have to wait 3 seasons after I create for you to create? No. We are using 2 players under 1 account. Therefore you are forcing us to wait the 3 season rule and therefore the player is technically OUR second player. That means US in general. Therefore there isn't no different account that should be associated or pretended that there is. So why are we treating OUR, again OUR second player like it's a second account? I get what you are trying to do by keeping things separate but it's just carryover. I mean it's still carryover no matter what. I don't get how it would discourage new players any different than a recreate. They still have that extra advantage no matter how you look at it. And there is no switching it up as you fit @Victor. It's giving it from the 1st player to the 2nd. Aka how it would be with a recreate. There is no taking a piss so I don't know where you got that idiotic remark from. Your statement is completely empty and devoid of real reason to hold itself accountable as a response. Please elaborate on why you think that it shouldn't be done. And don't give me that short simple bullshit of "it should be 2 accounts or as treated so." Give me some real shit as to why you think that it shouldn't happen like that. No matter how we look at it, a new member will still have less than a recreate or second player one way or another. If they have less than a recreate, what is the difference between that and the 2nd getting the TPE? Can someone please give me a nice detailed reason why. I challenge you @Mr. Power to bring back the old Devise responses that you are so famous for. Since you support Victor's response, give some defense. The ball is in your courts, Victor, Jardy and Devise.