Spartan

Ottawa has 12 forwards already, Atlas is a forward. VHLM max is 12 forwards, you can't sign him.

SHOO

Why are there "unofficial" offers in here lol. If you're not a GM or AGM, take your offers and scram

@lil OG z @Jason kranz Hi all, it has come to our attention that Ottawa does not have the roster space to sign @v.2 . Section 2.1 of the VHLM Rulebook states that "the maximum roster size for VHLM teams is 22 players - 12 forwards, 8 defensemen and 2 goaltenders." Atlas would be Ottawa's 13th forward and therefore unable to join Ottawa. Atlas will be treated as if he is back on waivers, with any other M team able to sign him. @VHLM GM

Not insinuating you don't know how it works, the situation you referenced was just exactly like what happened during your absence. I assumed you were somehow referencing to the incident I was around for which was my mistake. Either way, we're on the same page that claims require the work to be done for it. It can go up for discussion if there's a pressing need but it just seems like the standard all three leagues are following regarding the affiliate 12 claims. All three leagues are fairly invested in each others' success considering how many users are able to enjoy each league due to affiliation. Personally I don't see a point in limiting the backclaiming of the members who keep each of the three leagues running, but I've already pointed out my own bias/conflict of interest there and won't go on with it. Updaters don't decide for themselves, we follow the directives of the Head of PT and Commissioners. We've discussed how affiliate-12's and backclaims can work extensively in the updater chat and this is where we're at with it. Sometimes things like that post just don't get updated since they're not part of the rulebook and just buried somewhere on the forums, I'll bring it up with the blues and try to get it fixed across forums.

Honestly, I don't think it's ever come up during my time as an updater that we should deny those affiliate backclaims just for not being claimed in the current week. With affiliate PT claims, we're mainly just checking to see that it was claimed for the proper week (when the task was done), or that it reasonably lines up with when they would have claimed that same task in the affiliate league. That also seems to be the exact same standard in both the EFL and SBA in regards to how they handle VHL affiliate claims. With affiliate 12's, we treat them like they are in positions of doing work weekly to earn their pay, just in their specific league. Those folks are considered critical to those leagues, like Adrest who is listed as a commissioner in the SBA. Due to the role's responsibilities, they inherently fall under the "claiming the TPE during the appropriate week for when the task was done" no matter when the claim is. We have cracked down on other jobs trying to claim TPE without doing the work like VSN. Every claim of 8 requires that the member have a link to their work and is explicitly approved to be claiming VSN pay (either by being hired full-time or being a contributor who meets VSN standards). Perhaps I'm partial to the fact we bypass that old rule about affiliate claims since I benefit from having the same flexibility in the EFL/SBA where I certainly don't remember to claim my TPE at the cutoff each week. They recognize that I am fairly busy throughout the week doing my best in my role here in the VHL and grant the flexibility to back claim in their leagues despite not having a consistent weekly presence on their forums. I do my best to check in my LRs as my teammates there can attest to, and I know Adrest does as well since he was a Moscow prospect on his last player and would check in weekly to get his tasks done and TPE spent. We'll probably have to change that post that I doubt literally anyone looks at anymore due to the automation on the portal, considering I don't think that rule has been applied to block anyone's TPE since I've been in the league. Hope the explanation is sufficient!

Ok now it is fixed, maybe

It worked, nice edit: oh wait, it did not

Suck it @Acydburn

Ok DT

Congrats

Please edit the post and add your transaction ID. We can't approve the TPE without the ID which serves as confirmation.

Tbf at this point I think there's plenty to make fun of me for, being green is pretty low on that list though. Be more creative smh

Screw you, I don't want your underperforming player anyways. I'm taking back your job pay.

What are you recording on for your directions to be getting picked up lol

S84 was the best

I'm not sure if the forums itself has been set up poorly, but rather that there's just so much content and information that it's impossible for anyone to look at it in one go and think "ok, I can identify everything that is important and remember how to get there in the future." I'm not sure what the introductory forum PM contains or what other guides new players are directed to when they join the forum/create, but it will be partially revamped soon

Thank you for your vast contributions over the years from the shadows - being involved in the M, the E and various other metric based projects where your insights helped drive decision-making. Best of luck with whatever is next in life for you, and I hope to see you around!

There's a lot of chatter in here about getting people more aware of the forums once they create. I'll just chip in and say that there is a system in development that aims to solve most of the concerns in this thread such as new folks being unaware of forums, new creates being unaware of contract offers, or new users being without guidance immediately after creation. Once that is ready for implementation, I hope we'll see more new members sticking with the league instead of just going AWOL right after creation.

Uncalled for smh

Minor inconveniences like people forgetting turn signals. Drive back was much, much worse. Subway isn't the best, just something I used to have in college since it was across the street. Went for the first time in NJ in like, 5 years. Haven't had it in NJ since I was in high school and had practice on Saturdays and needed something quick and close by.

Definitely very vague, but it's just so people have as much room for creativity and interpretation as possible. Y'all are more creative than we are for sure.