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That was actually just players who didn't actually post their retirement before the off-season. Or maybe even anyone who didn't re-create before the off-season.

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The Jake Wylde Trophy has not been around for long, so any early concerns that myself or @Victor may have regarding it could possibly fix themselves as we go along (though I doubt it, considering judging the defensive merits of players has always been difficult to do). It has only been three seasons, but so far we haven't seen a player win both the Sterling Labatte Trophy and the Jake Wylde Trophy in the same season. If I had to guess, I would say it's something that won't happen as often as it probably should. Let's look at the past seasons. In Season 59, Ay Ay Ron won the Labatte, while Fabio Jokinen won the Wylde. I guess this is somewhat fair, though I think a case could be made for Ron (or another defenseman) to have won the Wylde. He had more hits, but fewer shots blocked, than Jokinen. If the Wylde did not exist, Ron would have (or at least, should have) won the Labatte as the best defenseman. In this instance, it almost seems that Jokinen was awarded the Wylde as the league's second best defenseman overall, not necessarily the top defensive defenseman. In Season 60, Ron once again won the Labatte as the league's best offensive defenseman (not sure the offensive part matters though, as he was the best defenseman overall). This season, though, the Wylde was awarded to a not-so-great player in Dexter Lane. Whoever voted this season seemed to have different criteria than voters in S59 and S61. Lane had 278 hits and 153 shots blocked. Yeah, seems pretty good for defensive stats, but defensemen on bad teams are going to have better defensive stats. Frankly, Lane should not have come close to this award, but whatever. Again, I think Ay Ay Ron could have actually been a good candidate. Season 61 saw Mats Johnsson take the Labatte while Ay Ay Ron was relegated to the Wylde. Johnsson had more goals, yes, but Ron led defensemen in points and led the league in assists. I'm not saying that Johnsson shouldn't have won the award (he probably would have been my vote, but it wouldn't necessarily be easy). To be honest, I think this season is actually a good one to point to and say that the splitting of the Labatte Trophy was a good idea. I do think it would've been a bit difficult to choose between Johnsson and Ron for Top Defenseman. Johnsson had more goals, but Ron had more hits and shots blocked. Okay, so give one of them best offensive and one of them best defensive. Similar to S59, it seems like a way to award the top two defensemen. All that being said, will be see a season where a player wins both defenseman awards? I don't think it's entirely out of line to say that often times, the best defensive defenseman is also the best offensive defenseman, in terms of skill, because the best players in the league are going to be very well rounded. Part of the problem, though, will be the inconsistency in voting. Some seasons, a somewhat notable name (see Dexter Lane) might win it due to boosted defensive stats from playing on a trash team (I'd like to say, it has to be a notable player name; someone like Augustus Gloop or Boner don't seem to get the same consideration as Lane did, even though they did a better job at what he did). Other seasons, it seems that the two defensemen awards are split to honor the top two defensemen. idk I just needed to post something

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Ironside only had 200+ shots blocked because he was an a pure trash team. In my opinion, Ay Ay Ron was miles ahead of him defensively and I'm very glad that the other voters do not share your sentiment that hits and shots blocked are literally the only two things that matter when it comes to top defensive defenseman. I do recognize, however, that there isn't really a good way to universally judge defensive players. Personally, I think if you are going to put so much stock into shots blocked, you have to also consider +/-. They are both team dependent stats, so why discount +/- entirely while basing the decision so much on shots blocked?

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You sure? I'll let you change your mind.. I'll take Keaton Louth @Spade18

I wouldn't really be able to help much with old logos, though the team changes would be easy.

For full details on fantasy stats and standings, check out this spreadsheet Group 1 @CowboyinAmerica 6 TPE 1430.39 @Gillyweed123 5 TPE 1169.98 @Arthur 4 TPE 1124.99 @Spade18 3 TPE 1109.81 @hedgehog337 2 TPE 1040.98 @ShaneAppelle 1 TPE 920.8 Group 2 @street 6 TPE 1326.38 @Velevra 5 TPE 1189.59 @Exlaxchronicles 4 TPE 1146.6 @Pandar 3 TPE 1096.58 @Green 2 TPE 1076.61 @Donno100 1 TPE 886.59 Group 3 @Bushito 6 TPE 1382.39 @DollarAndADream 5 TPE 1210.19 @Kendrick 4 TPE 1202.21 @Tim 3 TPE 1186.31 @MexicanCow 2 TPE 1183.98 @Gooningitup 1 TPE 955.58 Group 4 @Banackock 6 TPE 1229.59 @pennypenny 5 TPE 1154.38 @FacePuncher 4 TPE 1120.19 @Tagger 3 TPE 1098.98 @diamond_ace 2 TPE 1019.61 @Lax66 n/a DQ Group 5 @Beaviss 6 TPE 1213.91 @Hybrid1486 5 TPE 1178.38 @Romaris 4 TPE 1087.19 @jRuutu 3 TPE 1078.41 @Dangles13 2 TPE 1039.19 @Trifecta 1 TPE 1017.98 Group 6 @Bushito n/a (TPE earned above) 1401.01 @omgitshim 5 TPE 1305.99 @Beketov 4 TPE 1151.91 @Victor 3 TPE 1139.99 @Quik 2 TPE 1135.38 @Will 1 TPE 1071.38 here's an extra table because I can't seem to delete it taylor swift rocks!!

Also I'm in for S62 as well

@Bushito I do have the results from S61 and I can post them, if you don't want to go through and tally it. Not sure how much time you'd need to put into it but I do have the work done already so that's up to you

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Well I mean he's just an all-around great defenseman.

Are you suggesting he shouldn't have won it because he had the most assists?

https://www17.zippyshare.com/v/QrvBZJI6/file.html VHFL talk from me, what a surprise. I talk about players and go over the standings for each group, as well as some commonalities among the top teams and a bit of VHFL advice. It has an abrupt ending because someone came into the house and I didn't need to be heard talking to myself like a weirdo

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I'll try to whip something up this morning