Higgins 3,618 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Looking for your list of top 10 general managers in league history. An all-time list can be found here. Throw your hate/bias out the window, maybe the best GM ever is one you absolute despise because they kept such a good team for so long. I'll be making some sort of media spot series out of these and since I joined in S21 I'm only judging based on S21-39 myself. In no particular order, here's mine: Sam Helberg Sandro Desaulniers Chris Miller Victor Alfredsson David Knight Dustin Funk Greg Harbinson Mike Szatkowski Jason Glasser Joey Kendrick diamond_ace 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,208 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) 1. David Knight 2. Mitch Higgins fucking piece of shit 3. Dustin Funk 4. Chad Murphy 5. Harvey Singh 6. Greg Harbinson 7. Chris Miller 8. Sam Helberg (even if he stole the GM trophy from me twice) 9. Jason Glasser 10. Victor Alfredsson Edited September 23, 2014 by Frank scoop 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Knight, Boulet, Scotty, Funk, Streetlight, Higgins, Advantage, Victor, Greg, Sandro scoop 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted September 23, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 23, 2014 Time to dig up some ancient names... Scott Boulet Danny Tremblay Dustin Funk Scotty Campbell | | Joey Kendrick Sam Helberg Brandon Best (and a bit of Sterling Labatte) | David Knight | Sandro Desaulniers Mitch Higgins Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Don't agree with Tremblay. Those early Bears teams were lucky to have Scotty, which I blame more on Pensfan's incompetence. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 And I'm not sure how Kendrick's getting on these lists. His track record isn't very good. He's more mouth than results imo Kyle, frescoelmo and scoop 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 I was drafted to Helsinki so I know a bit more about their history from when I first joined that's why I included him for his Helsinki job. I appreciate all insight in pre-s21. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I was drafted to Helsinki so I know a bit more about their history from when I first joined that's why I included him for his Helsinki job. I appreciate all insight in pre-s21. I don't recall, did he win a Cup as a GM? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted September 23, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 23, 2014 Shit Chris, sorry, totally slipped my mind. You've gotten into other peoples' lists and I don't want to kick out anyone out of mine. Probably better than Brandon though, he was just my first GM and all. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted September 23, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 23, 2014 Don't agree with Tremblay. Those early Bears teams were lucky to have Scotty, which I blame more on Pensfan's incompetence.Good drafting record and stockpiled picks very well. One trade which struck me always in particular was a three-way with McNeil, Jon Church, and Gegeny. Seattle got Church I think and somehow the only other piece involved: a 1st. I think they used it on Funk or something. Also I'd give him credit for the Scotty deal as well as adding McNeil after. the S4-S5 team was basically tremblay's work. And I'm not sure how Kendrick's getting on these lists. His track record isn't very good. He's more mouth than results imoS22 cup over THAT powerhouse Toronto team. He picked up a team without its S18 1st (Kanou) and added pieces along the way to make them one of the better teams of the generation. Fowler trade was very good too. S1 Seattle wasn't great but also very short. Cologne.... expansion teams had it tough and Quebec's sole reason for winning is FA coup (could have gone to Cologne) and the Valiq clique. Lots of effort by Kendrick though, bringing back Smarch, Kachur, Gow, and likely others. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Good drafting record and stockpiled picks very well. One trade which struck me always in particular was a three-way with McNeil, Jon Church, and Gegeny. Seattle got Church I think and somehow the only other piece involved: a 1st. I think they used it on Funk or something. Also I'd give him credit for the Scotty deal as well as adding McNeil after. the S4-S5 team was basically tremblay's work. S22 cup over THAT powerhouse Toronto team. He picked up a team without its S18 1st (Kanou) and added pieces along the way to make them one of the better teams of the generation. Fowler trade was very good too. S1 Seattle wasn't great but also very short. Cologne.... expansion teams had it tough and Quebec's sole reason for winning is FA coup (could have gone to Cologne) and the Valiq clique. Lots of effort by Kendrick though, bringing back Smarch, Kachur, Gow, and likely others. Recruitment doesn't count as specific tasks from a GM though. I still think he's overrated as a GM or at least a little too antsy to up and leave. Don't you think the abrasive personality turns some people away as much as it helps his teams? That might be a large reason for no free agents going there. A good GM doesn't rely on free agents. As for Tremblay, not much tenure there compared to others on my list (which I think is important, especially in the earlier years of the league) and I'll still say the Scotty move was more Pensfan incompetence than it was good GMing from Seattle. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corco 1,236 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 1-10. Thomas Corcoran Tyler, Corco and Frank 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted September 23, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 23, 2014 Recruitment doesn't count as specific tasks from a GM though. I still think he's overrated as a GM or at least a little too antsy to up and leave. Don't you think the abrasive personality turns some people away as much as it helps his teams? That might be a large reason for no free agents going there. A good GM doesn't rely on free agents. As for Tremblay, not much tenure there compared to others on my list (which I think is important, especially in the earlier years of the league) and I'll still say the Scotty move was more Pensfan incompetence than it was good GMing from Seattle. Eh, if not top 10 he's like top 15. Can't agree with longevity and you didn't include Pensfan or Jason. I wouldn't include Greg myself though I respect Seattle and especially the Seattle Six days. frescoelmo 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted September 23, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 23, 2014 I should say, making the top 10 was fucking hard work. I definitely need about 5 more slots but they're in other peoples' list so whatever. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 5,208 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 And I'm not sure how Kendrick's getting on these lists. His track record isn't very good. He's more mouth than results imo This removed, Helberg added. Sorry Kendrick. Actually I'm not. Will and scoop 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 1. to 10. Edgar Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Eh, if not top 10 he's like top 15. Can't agree with longevity and you didn't include Pensfan or Jason. I wouldn't include Greg myself though I respect Seattle and especially the Seattle Six days. That's because they aren't good gms Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins 3,618 Posted September 23, 2014 Author Share Posted September 23, 2014 That's because they aren't good gms There are plenty of good GM's not in the top 10 all time though Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,426 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 I don't recall, did he win a Cup as a GM? S22 Helsinki, yeah. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 There are plenty of good GM's not in the top 10 all time though That's why I didn't put them in the top ten? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Higgins and Victor are standouts for me for good GMs from my time here. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,937 Posted September 23, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 23, 2014 Higgins and Victor are standouts for me for good GMs from my time here.rigged Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandro 251 Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 Those who have me in their top 10: <3 Those who don't: FUCK YOU I'M THE DRAFT GOD Corco and Victor 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny 17 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Although he had no luck, the dude who ran Vasteras for the first lots of seasons wasn't the worst. But I know who the worst was and it wasn't Robbie Zimmers. Anyone remember the Stockholm or something team ran by the juilan or something dude? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamond_ace 3,112 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Couple of people have had me in theirs, which is great, obviously I like the vote of confidence but I don't really mind being 11-15 or so either. Still says a lot, thanks. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/12439-top-10-general-managers/#findComment-124742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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