rory 1,944 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Recently I had a claim be denied by the updaters despite there being a user of similar skill set (mostly writing for PTs, very rare to do graphics) get a related post approved. In fact, the post that was made was straight inspired by theirs, I even tagged them in my post! This, among other problems that I've seen infecting the VHL, has gotten me thinking about how unfair and downright rigged the system is against most users. If you're not friends with people that will push your updates through for you, despite a PT needing to be denied/edited/etc, then your post will be left to rot in the queue until someone with enough GUTS will decline it, usually on Sunday afternoon, so you don't have time to create a replacement for the TPE you expected to earn. I've even heard stories of "flagged" updates being approved by updaters that DO NOT have clearance to do so. When I was an updater, the flag means an updater thinks it demands the attention of the Head of PT, DaaD for me and v.2 for these noob updaters, to make a final decision on the post. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobcarson877 2,563 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 I respect the art. rory and Spartan 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rory 1,944 Posted March 25 Author Share Posted March 25 Just now, jacobcarson877 said: I respect the art. This is exactly the problem. I get mistreated over and over, but because I have been labelled as a "troll" 3 years ago my complaints get ignored. What a joke. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UghSike 221 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Had to take a gander at your player page. I can't believe how many interests we have in common. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobcarson877 2,563 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Just now, rory said: This is exactly the problem. I get mistreated over and over, but because I have been labelled as a "troll" 3 years ago my complaints get ignored. What a joke. I will gladly say there were problems with both sides. I think we all know that you can't claim what you submitted and expect real TPE out of it. It was however funny. It also should not have taken that long to handle, and we do need to be better with our flagged items sitting for too long. And yeah, unless we come to a consensus or get v.2's opinion, nobody should be making the call on a flagged post. From the 2 seconds I read of the conversation that wasn't what happened here, but I might not be able to read. From what I gathered, it was approved by someone not paying enough attention (happens to all of us), and got revoked? Again could be wrong, didn't involve me directly. I personally would petition to let you claim something within the next like day to compensate for last week, but I don't hold that sway. It IS a great bait post with a good root in actual reality, which is why its a great bait post. Just wanted to make sure nobody (excluding those actually involved, who have the proper context) thought they needed to chip in with their own personal theories. rory 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triller 1,688 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Man, I hope there is! I put in some effort and would love special treatment because of it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,021 Posted March 25 Admin Share Posted March 25 The answer is yes Triller 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,143 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 RORY IS THE NEW LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,143 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On a serious note, I remember one time when my graphic work got denied because it wasn’t good enough. Long time ago. However, there was a bunch of members whose work was posted and was garbage - simple, but was being approved. I don’t do graphic work, and just like to change things up because writing gets stale after 10+ years but because I don’t make graphics like some of the elite but I’ve been here a long time means they get denied I guess? tough to gauge skill and what not though. Viewer discretion is advised. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlamb 1,328 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 2 hours ago, jacobcarson877 said: I think we all know that you can't claim what you submitted and expect real TPE out of it. Is this not the exact reason for this post, is that it can and was accepted for TPE? rory 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dil 1,763 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 I once had a .com rejected because I wrote it about how .com’s were judged too harshly, because it lacked effort and wasn’t relevant to the topic… despite being about the .com’s themselves and referencing sources and being well above the word count Just give up it’s not worth the effort jacobcarson877 and Spartan 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan 4,531 Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Goalpost is always moving. Good luck predicting where it'll be next! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
v.2 1,412 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Approved, nice article Rory! rory 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan_8 231 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Last week I had a graphic that I liked and thought was good declined for 'not enough effort' which is fair it was pretty simplistic but looking back I'm glad it was denied because it forced me to make a better graphic and improve my skills which is something I am trying to do. tcookie, LucyXpher and jacobcarson877 1 1 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcookie 927 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) I think it would be completely fair to allow anyone to submit a makeup PT for one that's declined within something like 48 hours, rather than just ending the week on them. Also, although I do completely agree with whoever declined your update, I don't quite understand why the "similar" one was ever allowed through either, so... totally valid complaint lol Edited March 26 by tcookie LucyXpher and rory 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jRuutu 2,475 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) Mine had music on it. I had artistic vision, I had a message that can be heard and understood hundreds of years from now. I created a dragon, yours was more like a kitty cat. Edited March 26 by jRuutu Victor 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020988 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,818 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 9 hours ago, rory said: I get mistreated over and over, but because I have been labelled as a "troll" 3 years ago my complaints get ignored. What a joke. Banackock 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1020989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle_3450 278 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 16 hours ago, jacobcarson877 said: It also should not have taken that long to handle, and we do need to be better with our flagged items sitting for too long. I agree with you here, an example would be the flagged donation that I had when Z tried to donate for me. That issue resulted in a change in wording for the CoC regarding donating for others to make it abundantly clear that you cannot donate for others unless it is for the holiday drive. The issue came when the donation remained flagged and V2 wouldnt tell me why. I spent the entire week worrying about if I'd broken a major rule, to the point where it was only resolved once I asked Bek what was going on. And then he handled it in under 45 minutes after my first message to him was sent. It shouldn't take a week for something to be doen when simply messaging the commish about it gets it done immediately. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/146674-double-standards-in-vhl/#findComment-1021003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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