Boomcheck 161 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 I'm one of those guys that would rather spend my 8 seasons up in the VHL but ... Lets say you get like 200 TPE and forgo the VHLM. Uhh, what are you doing as the season goes along? Some people recreate at the deadline ... Do they just sit and wait for the rest of the season? Also what will this do to the VHLM LR activity problems people apparently already have. People that forgo the VHLM won't have LR access to minors teams in which they can help new players and provide activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,467 Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 What about those of us who just want to skip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 8,731 Posted December 16, 2014 Commissioner Share Posted December 16, 2014 The exact rules would need to certainly be worked out but I would be all for skipping the VHLM in favour of going straight to the VHL. My only worry is that it makes the VHLM even more irrelevant because a lot of re-creates would choose to skip it al-together. That would mean the teams would have barely any players on them which is a major flaw. P.S I haven’t read page 2 yet so someone might have said this already Fire Tortorella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 438 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 VHLM has problems with not enough actives as it is, why would you give people the option to make even less actives there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,313 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I like VHLM.. For someone who one team's it, it's nice to rep a different team for a season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachReilly 688 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 (edited) mmhmm. easy choice. waste of time. league doesn't want top players so why keep the top players there. just allow shitty inactives to reign supreme IMO. Edited December 16, 2014 by CoachReilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,806 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 mmhmm. easy choice. waste of time. league doesn't want top players so why keep the top players there. just allow shitty inactives to reign supreme IMO. No one wants you here if you are going to act like a spoiled baby towards every discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotAVHLM-GM 1,858 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Whichever route gives me the most tpe to start my career + play a maximum amount of seasons with my players in the VHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probably not noah 346 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I would only skip it if it meant a 9th VHL season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIM-11 134 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'd skip. Easily. The VHLM is a means to an end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 fuck yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,467 Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Under the new rules, probably yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denver 198 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I wouldn’t skip the VHLM. For me at least skipping the VHLM is cutting the experience in half and depending on the total TPE I earn with Cattrall at the end of his career, I’m sure I’d already have incentive enough to try to top that total with my second player and so on and so forth. I see this topic really as to each their own, if you need an incentive to recreate a player in a league then you really don’t have the desire to be a member. That’s not throwing shade, but why are you here if you’re looking for an advantage in a league that’s trying to promote a stable and healthy community? You should be here for the community rather than extra TPE at point of creation. Edited December 17, 2014 by Denver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOM 8,467 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 For me it's about being able to add my earned TPE immediately, rather then be forced to bank it, but I see your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesfan036 4,585 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 VHLM would become really irrelevant if this happened as no members outside of VHLM GMs and the noobs would really care or discuss what goes on. Also, the amount of active members would be drastically reduced, so we'd probably have to cut to 6 teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molholt 2,183 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 6 teams would ne preferable anyway. Plus, having recreates doesn't necessarily = more activity. I don't gollow it or care about it at all, I'm just ready to be past it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 There's one problem with cutting teams down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 10,614 Posted December 17, 2014 Admin Share Posted December 17, 2014 VHLM would become really irrelevant if this happened as no members outside of VHLM GMs and the noobs would really care or discuss what goes on. Also, the amount of active members would be drastically reduced, so we'd probably have to cut to 6 teams Does anyone apart from GMs and noobs care now? Da Trifecta and eaglesfan036 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Does anyone apart from GMs and noobs care now? Indeed. There are a few re-creates and members in general who have a passion for the VHLM, and honestly the groups who are pro VHLM continue to get in conflicts with those who aren't, those who have abused the system with higher TPE, the list goes on. People act like we would be forcing them to go to the VHL. That isn't the case. All we would be doing is offering options. In regards to the VHLM losing players, we would probably have to contract but don't go crazy on the amount of players we would lose. Again re-creates are in the VHLM for a single season. Then they spend usually 8 WHOLE SEASONS away from it. The VHLM lives fine when those players aren't there. If our goal is to make the VHLM a development league, an entry point for new members, having those who care about it and the new members make up the bulk of the league is a GOOD thing. Maybe records might actually make more of a difference this way, and stats/VHLM awards. Because you won't have as many players tearing it up with high TPE or unhappy that they have to play their and don't care. Edited December 17, 2014 by Devise22 Da Trifecta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probably not noah 346 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I care about the VHLM when I'm in it. To say only noobs care is taking an elitist viewpoint. I remember a time when the VHLM didn't matter and we actively campaigned to make it a bigger deal and make it more important so that new members would feel a part of the league. This VHLM reform is going the opposite direction of the VHLM reform that Victor fought so hard for before. eaglesfan036 and Fire Tortorella 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lere2001 90 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I is noob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 I care about the VHLM when I'm in it. To say only noobs care is taking an elitist viewpoint. I remember a time when the VHLM didn't matter and we actively campaigned to make it a bigger deal and make it more important so that new members would feel a part of the league. This VHLM reform is going the opposite direction of the VHLM reform that Victor fought so hard for before. Nobody said that. There are re-creates who passionately care about the VHLM and there are recreates who don't. Even if you disregard recreates I have talked to new members who simply wanted to get out of the VHLM and head to the VHL, and newer members who since leaving the VHLM were glad and have went to the VHL. It goes both ways. I just don't see how giving people options, provided all the options offer a balanced and fair approach for all parties really hurts anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
probably not noah 346 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Nobody said that. There are re-creates who passionately care about the VHLM and there are recreates who don't. Even if you disregard recreates I have talked to new members who simply wanted to get out of the VHLM and head to the VHL, and newer members who since leaving the VHLM were glad and have went to the VHL. It goes both ways. I just don't see how giving people options, provided all the options offer a balanced and fair approach for all parties really hurts anything. Victor: Does anyone apart from GMs and noobs care now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomcheck 161 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Nobody said that. There are re-creates who passionately care about the VHLM and there are recreates who don't. Even if you disregard recreates I have talked to new members who simply wanted to get out of the VHLM and head to the VHL, and newer members who since leaving the VHLM were glad and have went to the VHL. It goes both ways. I just don't see how giving people options, provided all the options offer a balanced and fair approach for all parties really hurts anything. What's so bad about spending one whole season in the VHLM? You still get the 8 season career and atleast you get to do something and check out stats instead of sitting down and twiddling thumbs. You don't have to spend more than one season in the VHLM as is, jeez, and it doesn't even effect your 8 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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