Kendrick 4,741 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 7 minutes ago, Smarch said: Unless you fuck with the sliders, then not as clear But then every game would be a consistent game relative to the one before. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarch 3,150 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 No. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 3 minutes ago, Smarch said: No. I find your lack of faith disturbing Lord Vader. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 I was actually 100% joking Draper. While I find I end up liking the results of Jardy sims more as I clearly lay out in the post there is zero evidence or logic to assume you actually rig. But hey people finally posted in a Fan590 of mine. FINALLY! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted December 24, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted December 24, 2015 5 minutes ago, Mr. Power said: I was actually 100% joking Draper. While I find I end up liking the results of Jardy sims more as I clearly lay out in the post there is zero evidence or logic to assume you actually rig. But hey people finally posted in a Fan590 of mine. FINALLY! There's a special place in hell for people that force me to post 530 word posts. stevo, Devise and Advantage 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody 99 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 19 minutes ago, Kendrick said: But then every game would be a consistent game relative to the one before. If you change the silders (i presume overall formula and sim options are the sliders in question) for one day, and theirs only one game that day, than it would only effect that one game. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 2 minutes ago, TheNextGreatOne said: If you change the silders (i presume overall formula and sim options are the sliders in question) for one day, and theirs only one game that day, than it would only effect that one game. This is true, but pretty time consuming for simming one game. If Draper did that, I wouldn't accuse him of rigging as much as I would consider him a lowlife with too much time on his hands. Judging from my convos with him, he is far from the latter. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody 99 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 2 minutes ago, Kendrick said: This is true, but pretty time consuming for simming one game. If Draper did that, I wouldn't accuse him of rigging as much as I would consider him a lowlife with too much time on his hands. Judging from my convos with him, he is far from the latter. Are you sure? He is a commish on a simulated hockey league. stevo, Will and Advantage 3 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted December 24, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted December 24, 2015 12 minutes ago, TheNextGreatOne said: Are you sure? He is a commish on a simulated hockey league. stevo 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastOlympian07 2,388 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 53 minutes ago, Kendrick said: I find your lack of faith disturbing Lord Vader. smarch is lord vader on shl? what the actual fuck Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 1 hour ago, StevenStamkos91 said: smarch is lord vader on shl? what the actual fuck No you fucktard. It's a joke. "Gosh George, try to keep up would you." Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage 2,891 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 6 hours ago, Draper said: Okay, first of all let's not kid ourselves here Devise by saying that this a semi-joke and not an accusation, because it is in fact an accusation and one that I find quite disturbing. Second, if I'm understanding you correctly, the bulk of your ammunition here is inconsistent scoring and such (specifically your example about Helsinki vs. Calgary). And when you ask if I tamper with settings to produce favourable results, I presume you mean the sliders like goals, hits, etc as those are the only settings that would have an impact on scoring. Aside from saying 'no, i didn't do it' I can tell you that there is literally no way for me to change any settings on a per-game basis. Any changes I made to the overall formulas that the sim uses would be reflected in every game I simmed, with no way for me to single out my own games. Unless any of the other simmers know something that I don't, they can attest to this fact. The only realistic way to 'rig' is to reload the sim without saving and simming and again, which would be both time consuming and pointless considering the file takes ~2-3 minutes to open and I have very little incentive to rig - even more so in the regular season where the number of games I sim is typically small. Honestly I'm surprised that certain people are making accusations here - Hell, Helsinki beat Davos 7 times this season and all of the sudden I'm cheating the league because we won two close games in overtime? I mean give me a break Ahma, you've been going around all day blabbering on with absolutely no cause or foundation for the shit you've been spewing. I don't really know what you guys want me to say here but Helsinki won a cup last year without me simming a single playoff games and our team improved between now and then, but they're only performing because I'm rigging..? I've never put my job as GM ahead of my job as Commish and believe it or not the integrity of the league is something that I take very seriously. None of my players have ever received any kind of favouritism, and also different people around the league are aware of the fact that I've been actively exploring options to leave my post as GM for the past season or so which might give you some indication of which job I put first. As for last nights sim, it was already around 1AM for me when Jardy messaged me sim and I no longer had the live-stream software (OBS) on my computer as I wiped everything when I upgraded to Win10 a month or two ago. Sorry, but I didn't much feel like downloading and configuring it at that time of night. In any case, there's not much else I can say. I certainly won't deny that the fault for not live-streaming last night lies with me, and if Higgins wants to re-sim last nights games against Davos because of that fact then I could care less; it seems clear however that there will always be someone on the losing team that cries rig and thus I will be more than happy to remove myself from the pool of simmers. You rigging bastard. Ahma 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Ayyeee Funniest shit that I've read in a long time. We all know Draper is a master rigger Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,359 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 On December 24, 2015 at 11:54 PM, TheNextGreatOne said: Are you sure? He is a commish on a simulated hockey league. He's even worse, he's two commissioners in a sim league.... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,024 Posted December 26, 2015 Commissioner Share Posted December 26, 2015 On December 23, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Kendrick said: This. Scotty + Co. would do things to puff up their egos. What a joke haha Back in my day we had reason to accuse people of rigging, now it's just a fad! #oldmanVHL Kendrick and Devise 2 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 18 hours ago, Beketov said: Back in my day we had reason to accuse people of rigging, now it's just a fad! #oldmanVHL The fact that three different eras of members have the right to say back in my day makes me afraid of the almighty power and survivability of this league. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,359 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Back in my day Draper riqqed under the alias Higgins.. Edited December 26, 2015 by STZ Ahma 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted December 26, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted December 26, 2015 1 hour ago, STZ said: Back in my day Draper riqqed under the alias Higgins.. Bypassing the profanity filter i see STZ 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,997 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I've rigged all this Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-295977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 708 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 The integrity of this league has been ruined we don't know how far back it goes. We must start over at Season 1. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-296004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 1 hour ago, Mike said: The integrity of this league has been ruined we don't know how far back it goes. We must start over at Season 1. Fuck can you imagine us doing that? Starting over....like...what would even be real... Would we like keep welfare and new systems. Would the VHLM be needed? Maybe we merge the two and have 14 teams. The possibilities.... Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-296009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,660 Posted December 27, 2015 Senior Admin Share Posted December 27, 2015 17 minutes ago, Mr. Power said: Fuck can you imagine us doing that? Starting over....like...what would even be real... Would we like keep welfare and new systems. Would the VHLM be needed? Maybe we merge the two and have 14 teams. The possibilities.... I once had a thought that after S50 we should scrap everything, come in with fresh teams, sweeping changes, and pretty much reset the league. Would be interesting Devise 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-296013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 29 minutes ago, Mr. Power said: Fuck can you imagine us doing that? Starting over....like...what would even be real... Would we like keep welfare and new systems. Would the VHLM be needed? Maybe we merge the two and have 14 teams. The possibilities.... Would Shawn still be here? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-296014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 44 minutes ago, Draper said: I once had a thought that after S50 we should scrap everything, come in with fresh teams, sweeping changes, and pretty much reset the league. Would be interesting That is funny and slightly scary. After posting this I was thinking the exact same thing. Would truly allow us to make larger changes too. From updating to a new sim, to different career lengths, salary cap, etc. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-296016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Share Posted December 27, 2015 Could even keep the history of the league alive by separating each 50 seasons into different eras. Era 1, 2 etc. Will 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/26646-draper-he-rigs/page/2/#findComment-296017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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