STZ 5,286 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Once again, but we haven't gained anyone over 6 seasons haha. Thats what the topic is about Maybe that's why - you guys play victim every chance you get.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kesler 1,514 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe that's why - you guys play victim every chance you get.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,286 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 That probably came out wrong.. I just meant every franchise has their challenges, it's not like everyone hates Cologne and never wants to see them succeed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe that's why - you guys play victim every chance you get.. Well not really. Yeah we've been upset over FA's but in no way do we say. Fuck this league hates us. Do we think FA's don't want to sign here? Not exactly we just think they want different situation. Countless times I've heard "I don't think you have a chance to compete" or "I wouldn't fit in the lines", but thats far from the truth. I looked at our roster now and saw a roster that has a chance to compete but are one player away. So after awhile those excuses just become somewhat lies or ways of trying to politely say no. Trust me, I get where you are coming from. However I think a Gm would rather just hear a FA say "No" instead of making a stupid silly excuse that they don't truly mean. for example, Fong speaks highly of me and says he'd sign here however over history of Fong ever being on FA with any of his players, he has always turned down contracts I've offered. His opinion is his and it's respected but there comes a time when one feels that's just an excuse for not going on your word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,286 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Here's the thing. As a GM your only real job is to be a promoter, and market your team as a desirable place to play. When you constantly remind everyone how no one ever wants to play with and for you, you are positioning your franchise to be branded as a place nobody wants to go. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Instead of wasting your energy on listing out all the players who have expressed interest and then left, talk about the players you have and focus on the positives. By focusing on the negatives, you're playing victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) You make some fair points Kendrick but I honestly just think Cologne has been stuck in the proverbial rock and a hard place since coming into the league. Getting quality players on your team is a mixture of luck, patience, and a give and take of caution and risk. You've had tons of those situations play out but for various reasons things never went your way. I think you've drafted well, sure a couple of meh trades but most of your trades are to try and get players more active or put them on teams you want. For the early seasons you struggled to find a goalie, now Chekhov has turned out well. But your right, you guys are one player away from taking the big step. You are either one or two players away and everybody is selling and you don't have the picks to trade or in this situation you are one or two players away but who is selling players this year? Specifically of the kind you need? Always a tough situation. Sometimes things just don't work out and it sucks. I think it puts more pressure on the FA case because of these facts. Other teams lose out on FA but due to different circumstances have improved their squads other ways. But your not the only case example of that. Other than Pensfan who has Vasteras really gotten? I mean they are the pure definition of a franchise that seems stuck either as a unlikely playoff contender or just outside of the playoffs. Since rebuilding Seattle has been stuck in limbo as well. Acquiring and trading the same players back and forth and dealing with building a drafted roster while trying to keep the older players happy and sticking around lest they test FA. I hate to say it but I do think a lot of teams in the league are going to have to consider or looking at rebuilding without having won a Cup in the time since they competed. If the Legion can't win a Cup in the next couple seasons they will be in the exact same boat. It's easy for teams like Riga/NY/Calgary to commit to rebuilding when they have won a Cup in the last 5 seasons. You don't feel like the run was as wasted. Ultimately though FA is only one facet of the league. It can play an important factor if it goes your way for sure. But I just think the issue at hand here is how few players test FA and how the state of the league can really affect the amount of options a team and a GM really has. If you think about it save for Riga/NY the league is pretty much filled with middle of the pack teams that are trying to "break" the cusp and become contenders. Seattle, Vasteras, Cologne, Davos. Then you have a team like Toronto who arguably is even in that same category, on the cusp with very little star power but tons of depth. Helsinki kind of represents Calgary from seasons past with some star power players but not a lot of positions. Quebec is lucky enough to continue to be the top team simply because of the luck of the cap draw with everyone other than the retired player able to stick around. The point though is that being a middle of the pack team and wondering if your ever going to be able to go from a competitive team to a contender is something the majority of teams in the league deal with. Edited December 30, 2013 by Devise22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Here's the thing. As a GM your only real job is to be a promoter, and market your team as a desirable place to play. When you constantly remind everyone how no one ever wants to play with and for you, you are positioning your franchise to be branded as a place nobody wants to go. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. Instead of wasting your energy on listing out all the players who have expressed interest and then left, talk about the players you have and focus on the positives. By focusing on the negatives, you're playing victim. I realize what you're saying. I'm just telling you that after 6 seasons it gets really frustrating. I mean it can be golden for so many years for some guys, some guys it can be golden for a season. I personally have not had 1 year where I am happy so that's why I'm both hard on my teammates and hard on myself to be able to compete. Oh well, shit happens and moving on sometimes is the best medicine. Devise is right, it's only one facet but it does get frustrating having to trade assets for assets when other teams seem to get them for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sterling 1,990 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Id go to Cologne now if I had a choice tbh, I mentioned that in a previous media spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Baozi 1,635 Posted December 30, 2013 Head Moderator Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Kendrick is like Glen Sather maybe. No luck in FA signings but is excellent in bringing in personnel via trades and drafts Edited December 30, 2013 by tfong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8Ovechkin8 262 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 B/C FA is always a popularity contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Kendrick is like Glen Sather maybe. No luck in FA signings but is excellent in bringing in personnel via trades and drafts That wouldn't make sense seeing as Sather does get FA's, he overpays them in fact. I don't know what Glen Sather you are looking at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank 4,772 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Sample size... Frank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,255 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I try to sell myself as the key point in coming in. I think this is probably scaring some free agents away. Corco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,255 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 You don't see people put Vasteras on their list of teams to go to unless they are PensFan. And me for some reason. scoop and Corco 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,255 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 People are still crying about our off-season 2 years ago? lol Literally no one even came close to mentioning this until Devise. scoop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,255 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Maybe that's why - you guys play victim every chance you get.. ding ding ding scoop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoop 3,255 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 You make some fair points Kendrick but I honestly just think Cologne has been stuck in the proverbial rock and a hard place since coming into the league. Getting quality players on your team is a mixture of luck, patience, and a give and take of caution and risk. You've had tons of those situations play out but for various reasons things never went your way. I think you've drafted well, sure a couple of meh trades but most of your trades are to try and get players more active or put them on teams you want. For the early seasons you struggled to find a goalie, now Chekhov has turned out well. But your right, you guys are one player away from taking the big step. You are either one or two players away and everybody is selling and you don't have the picks to trade or in this situation you are one or two players away but who is selling players this year? Specifically of the kind you need? Always a tough situation. Sometimes things just don't work out and it sucks. I think it puts more pressure on the FA case because of these facts. Other teams lose out on FA but due to different circumstances have improved their squads other ways. But your not the only case example of that. Other than Pensfan who has Vasteras really gotten? I mean they are the pure definition of a franchise that seems stuck either as a unlikely playoff contender or just outside of the playoffs. Since rebuilding Seattle has been stuck in limbo as well. Acquiring and trading the same players back and forth and dealing with building a drafted roster while trying to keep the older players happy and sticking around lest they test FA. I hate to say it but I do think a lot of teams in the league are going to have to consider or looking at rebuilding without having won a Cup in the time since they competed. If the Legion can't win a Cup in the next couple seasons they will be in the exact same boat. It's easy for teams like Riga/NY/Calgary to commit to rebuilding when they have won a Cup in the last 5 seasons. You don't feel like the run was as wasted. Ultimately though FA is only one facet of the league. It can play an important factor if it goes your way for sure. But I just think the issue at hand here is how few players test FA and how the state of the league can really affect the amount of options a team and a GM really has. If you think about it save for Riga/NY the league is pretty much filled with middle of the pack teams that are trying to "break" the cusp and become contenders. Seattle, Vasteras, Cologne, Davos. Then you have a team like Toronto who arguably is even in that same category, on the cusp with very little star power but tons of depth. Helsinki kind of represents Calgary from seasons past with some star power players but not a lot of positions. Quebec is lucky enough to continue to be the top team simply because of the luck of the cap draw with everyone other than the retired player able to stick around. The point though is that being a middle of the pack team and wondering if your ever going to be able to go from a competitive team to a contender is something the majority of teams in the league deal with. tl; dr scoop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,896 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I think this is probably scaring some free agents away. Yeah scaring away free agents by asking to play with the RoTY. Sorry everyone is some cocky asshole who wants to be the only person on the team. I just won't be a teammate and become this rampaging dickhead and be like, "No don't come to Cologne. Fuck you, you aren't worthy to team with the best." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boubabi 4,725 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would love to play in Cologne one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corco 1,124 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Yeah scaring away free agents by asking to play with the RoTY. Sorry everyone is some cocky asshole who wants to be the only person on the team. I just won't be a teammate and become this rampaging dickhead and be like, "No don't come to Cologne. Fuck you, you aren't worthy to team with the best." Just because you were Rookie of the Year doesn't mean you are a superstar who everyone wants to play with. The attitude you're giving when posting right now is a contributing factor to why someone might not want to play on your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgar 283 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would love to play in Cologne one day. NO YOU WOULDN'T!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Trifecta 1,896 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Just because you were Rookie of the Year doesn't mean you are a superstar who everyone wants to play with. The attitude you're giving when posting right now is a contributing factor to why someone might not want to play on your team. Congrats. Did I ever say I wanted anyone to play here? No. I am doing it for Kendrick an Cologne. Personally you can all go shove it for whatever it's worth. I really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinty 116 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Srsly Quebec is the best Edited December 30, 2013 by Squinty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squinty 116 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 (edited) Srsly Quebec is the best x2 Edited December 30, 2013 by Squinty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devise 4,475 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Jesus Streetlight, post whore much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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