Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted March 26, 2018 Senior Admin Share Posted March 26, 2018 With the changes to the TPE structure of the forum and increase in weekly cap, it was obviously necessary to adjust the Salary Brackets. After a lengthy discussion about career lengths and other major changes to the overall salary system - we ended up not really coming to agreement or final decision on those things. And so, what we've done is essentially the bare minimum required to bring the old brackets up to date. First, new brackets are added to account for the higher TPE levels. Second, brackets will now be calculated by TPA (Total Points Applied) rather than TPE. This means that depreciation can cause a player to drop brackets - in essence, this is the fairest system possible as you now pay for a player based on how good he actually is rather than the arbitirary Veteran contract tier (which has been removed) which either resulted in a) overpaying for a player who didn't fully recover from depreciation or b) underpaying for a player who possibly recovered from depreciation fully and then some. Going by TPA gets rid of that. And so, Rookie contracts will continue to be seasons 1-3, and Prime will be 4-8. As for determining cap hit: There will still be a TPE-Cutoff Date prior to off-season where all TPE earned prior to that date counts toward the cap. Then, Depreciation will be done. A player's TPA for finance purposes will be their TPA after depreciation (if applicable) plus any banked, unclaimed or outstanding TPE earned before the cut-off date. Here are the brackets: VHL Salary Brackets # TPA Rookie Prime 1 Under 100 $500,000 $750,000 2 101-200 $1,000,000 $1,500,000 3 201-300 $1,500,000 $2,000,000 4 301-400 $2,000,000 $2,500,000 5 401-500 $2,500,000 $3,000,000 6 501-600 $3,000,000 $3,750,000 7 601-700 $3,500,000 $4,000,000 8 701-800 $4,000,000 $4,500,000 9 801-900 $4,500,000 $5,000,000 10 900+ TPA $5,000,000 $5,500,000 While some salaries go up slightly with the loss of Veteran tier contracts, it seems from my calculations that the decreased cap hit for players hit harder for depreciation generally outweighs the increase for players who don't. Therefore, there's little need for a significant increase in cap. The S60 Salary Cap will be $34 000 000. This small increase is to account for possible higher salaries due to the removal of the veteran tier and as always when we make these kind of changes, the salary cap will be closely monitored and re-evaluated next season. Tyler 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,138 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 34...? Alrighty.. we'll test drive it. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-511946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,958 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 34mill is a good number makes keeping teams together easier. With the new brackets. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-511957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I like it on paper right now. I won't be seeing any of the effects for awhile though, considering I'm going into rebuild in S60. So, we'll see what happens! I'm excited though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-511999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
STZ 5,389 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Solid system. Gonna be hell to get everyone depreciated right at the end of the playoffs when the TPE cutoff happens. but yeah, great work everyone! Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-512002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,101 Posted March 27, 2018 Commissioner Share Posted March 27, 2018 17 hours ago, Banackock said: 34...? Alrighty.. we'll test drive it. We’ve done the math. As it currently stands all teams fit under 33 mill (I think you might be the only one a tad over it) so 34 is actually giving a little extra wiggle room. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-512033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyinAmerica 2,911 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Fair enough with TPA and the loss of Veteran contracts, I don't mind that. McAllister's about to get Super Paid though. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-512048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 7 hours ago, CowboyinAmerica said: Fair enough with TPA and the loss of Veteran contracts, I don't mind that. McAllister's about to get Super Paid though. My third year goaltender will be making max next season, lol Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-512099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnDaddy 323 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 @hedgehog337: STZ 1 Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-512122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Victor 11,021 Posted March 28, 2018 Admin Share Posted March 28, 2018 I assume in my absence someone developed a handy tool to calculate TPA. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-512229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioner Beketov 9,101 Posted March 29, 2018 Commissioner Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Victor said: I assume in my absence someone developed a handy tool to calculate TPA. The portal keeps track of it for us. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-512250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,138 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 When is cut-off? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513317 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagger 2,722 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 TPA is still a threat. It's actually kinda funny to me that the term I coined is being used more now than it ever was when I was here Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushito 1,945 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tagger said: TPA is still a threat. It's actually kinda funny to me that the term I coined is being used more now than it ever was when I was here Come back please Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaviss 4,958 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, Tagger said: TPA is still a threat. It's actually kinda funny to me that the term I coined is being used more now than it ever was when I was here Come back anytime..... I miss you Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream 3,357 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Tagger said: TPA is still a threat. It's actually kinda funny to me that the term I coined is being used more now than it ever was when I was here Did you coin TPA? I kind of threw it out there because I think SBA or somebody does it. Or SHL. I don't remember now. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,138 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, DollarAndADream said: Did you coin TPA? I kind of threw it out there because I think SBA or somebody does it. Or SHL. I don't remember now. Not SHL Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,138 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 On 2018-04-04 at 2:37 PM, Banackock said: When is cut-off? @Will cut-off the same? This pst Monday? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senior Admin Will 4,662 Posted April 5, 2018 Author Senior Admin Share Posted April 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Banackock said: @Will cut-off the same? This pst Monday? I feel like I've answered this question for you 3 times On 3/31/2018 at 1:34 PM, Will said: The cut-off day will be the same time it always is, the last sunday before off-season TPE starts being handed out, it will be on the off-season schedule Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banackock 8,138 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Will said: I feel like I've answered this question for you 3 times If so, I've forgot that I've asked 3 times lol very good Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagger 2,722 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 On 05/04/2018 at 1:16 AM, DollarAndADream said: Did you coin TPA? I kind of threw it out there because I think SBA or somebody does it. Or SHL. I don't remember now. I started using the term on the site in S46 (so would be round late 2015) when I added it to TPE Index, Given that I think someone at the time would probably have mentioned it was already being used on another site (I don’t think it is anyway since Bana mentioned SHL doesn’t and I don’t remember seeing the term in SBA in my short time there) and no one else had used it on this one, I think its fair to say that was the first instanced use of the term. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 No I had heard it being used in a prior Football league Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagger 2,722 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kendrick said: No I had heard it being used in a prior Football league Not saying your wrong, but I’ve been in a lot of football leagues and I don’t remember the term being used. Plus as I mention nobody brought it up at the time and you were one of those who posted immediately after so it could just be something you’ve seen used elsewhere and couldn’t remember which was first, which is something I’ve certainly had trouble remembering in the past. Then again, if one were to use the concept of using players total active points (which I know had been done prior to this league using TPA) and turning it into a shorthand term (something which I see less as most leagues I’d seen it calculated were part of a one-off thing) then it isn’t exactly impossible that two people could come up with the same term as most of the terms that would be used to describe current points attached to a player begin with A (Active, Applied, Attached, etc.) Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendrick 4,741 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I just remember it being used elsewhere before. Much like how when I heard TPA come from you, I already knew what it was. Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagger 2,722 Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kendrick said: I just remember it being used elsewhere before. Much like how when I heard TPA come from you, I already knew what it was. Umm no, I remember having to explain it to you at the time what it was and how it was calculated haha. Perhaps you’re thinking of the USFL, which used an Actual TPE figure, but that was TPE minus contract money? Link to comment https://vhlforum.com/topic/48104-s60-salary-brackets-salary-cap/#findComment-513554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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